[Males only please] Would you marry a feminist?

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Okay, since I said nothing about most men's approving of rape, I'm going to assume you skipped out of the conversation and went to argue with FEMEN. However. While I don't think most men approve of rape (actually there've been campus studies, and iirc the number of young men approving of rape, so long as it wasn't actually *called* rape but was instead a described rape, was around 37%), I do very much think men participate willingly in looking the other way when a woman's being abused, and when language and situations abusive to women are in place around them. While I know guys like to think of themselves as the kind of guys who'd be the alleyway hero during a rape (all these imaginary rapes in alleys), if a woman comes to work with bruises, it's a rare fellow who'll mention it directly to her and attempt to help her. If the coworkers like to talk filthy about women, it's exceptionally unusual that a guy will say, "uh, that's wrong and certainly inappropriate, is that really how you think of women?" I can't remember ever -- ever -- having seen a man turn in another man who sexually harasses women at work, or even admit to having seen it go on. There seems not to be any large concentration of men who'll spot wage discrepancies and do the necessary to make things right.

Why, just today, the editor of the NYT got the shove, at least in part because she started demanding answers about why she was being stiffed on pay *compared with the worst editor the NYT had ever had*.

Men are terrified of other men. And until the lot of you grow some balls, it's going to be very difficult for women, and furthermore you'll find it more comfortable to blame us for shouting about problems that you wish very deeply people would just *shut up* about, so that you didn't have to do anything about them, including recognize them, yourself.

To save you the trouble the vids I posted on this thread are vids of topless feminists protesting the one is a link to a femen protest the other one below are censored with a guy trolling both opposing sides. And the vid right below the femen link is a song about boobs with a lady singing stop staring at my boobs. I guess i can be a pig because i have a high libido and am immature oh well I don't care anymore. The vids are somewhat relevant to this thread because they are feminists but the boob song isnt its just for added humor it might not be humorous to you but it is for others. It not like there aren't piggish women towards men who expect men to clean their leaky faucet or fix their car. [img][800:1463]http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/comics-JaGo-sexism-superheroes-911826.jpeg[/img]

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Yes, if she's a feminist that actually believes in equal rights.

If she spends all her time demonizing men and exalting women, then no.

So, your vote will carry an implicit definition of feminism. You have the right to vote, go for it.

I voted NO!

Dont worry you will probably never have to make that choice.
This thread is so pointless, it basically translates into "do you hate women".

They didn't add a maybe option or depends so I chose NO because I don't date according to political affiliation and if she calls herself a feminist and is a misandrist of course the answer is NO. If she is a feminist but is mello and chill and has a sense of humor then I would say yes.

stupid autocorrect.... I meant sex positive of course >_<

But anti feminists and rape-apologies aren't all men.

I think you're partially right of men are terrified other men, especially if the one doing the harassment is their boss; but a lot of women would go silent about it seeing their boss harassing another woman especially if the victim is also afraid to take legal measures against him. From what I've witnessed so far in office life, women aren't generally that supportive with each other, a lot gossip against each other, fight each other, dramas... and yes, I saw from them blaming on the victim in a harassment case happened in the work place: One of our graphic designer was physically attractive gal, having a fit body and she was particularly endowed in the bottom area, she was also of the flirty type with men in the office including the pervert project manager (who's married with 2 toddlers btw) we had back then, this latter crossed the line too far and spanked her "jokingly" just right in the middle of the office - I wasn't there but all his 3 subordinates who told me about this later, 1 young guy (who's a close friend of the harassed gal) and 2 young gals, witnessed the incidence and they were shocked, the designer just went silent and left the office angrily. It was actually the GUY, not the 2 ladies, who leaked the incident the next day to the general manager, he was her relative, and hadn't the fear of losing the job in facing a senior manager like his two coworkers. The pm was summoned to the GM office along with the graphic designer and all witnesses, the decision made by the GM (who's a woman too) was just a "last warning", but he wasn't fired, no other sanction or measure was even issued, he's still working right there in the same position, fortunately the man was definitely tamed and never did anything like this again. A wave of gossips happened a lot among the female coworkers about this incident, me and the witnesses all thought he should had been shown the door, while other ladies of other departments were ending their opinions with like "....but she does wear too tight clothes too", so see... rape-apologists aren't always men (harassment apologists = rape apologists, same breed).

Another memorable incident, I had a female coworker who was somehow traditional, every time there were feminist protests (who happened in the down town plaza just beneath us and we could hear their shoutings) she goes like "pfff women, what do they want more?" - and the causes the local feminists were protesting about were really rightful for very basic legit rights, one of them was giving local mothers the right to inherent citizenship to their children!! (this discriminatory law, which was encouraged by the Christian clergy in particular, was made by the gov under the pretext of pretending of maintaining the sectarian demographic balance, fearing the numbers of Lebanese women marrying Palestinians refugee men (who are mostly muslims) would screw this balance - however it isn't applicable on Lebanese men marrying Palestinian women). She mocked feminist protests yet her very sister lost child custody upon divorce by the Islamic court (in my country each married couple follow their religious courts here in cases of divorce/ money inheritance...etc , except the civilly married ones) and she was prevented to see the child FOR GOOD because they labeled her "bad example for the child" based on a baseless adultery claim against her by her ex; I found her stand regarding her sister's case (siding with sister of course) and her reactions to the feminist protests quite were contradictory and hypocritical, they are protesting to prevent similar discriminatory cases to happen yet she mocks them.

You can see a lot of anti-feminist groups online , Muslim women groups for example often clashed with other feminist groups and bashed each other, for example: https://www.facebook.com/MuslimWomenAgainstFemen, there's an article posted there where they even attack Muslims feminists. Muslim feminists in my opinion are fighting a futile battle, Islam views on women, like any other Abrahamic religion, are misogynistic - and the Islam's core is the belief that the Qur'an is the word of God hence it is infallible and cannot be reformed in any shape or form, which means that Muslim feminists as long they're staying following this religion and trying to achieve gender equality through Islam will always go into endless circles.

Feminists have a lot of enemies among the women folk indeed, after all who raised the traditional men to be traditional?

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Your post sums up my feelings entirely.

in your own anecdote provided to illustrate your point about how women aren't any more likely to stand up for other women being harassed, you tell us the man was the one who reported the incident because he was the only one who could do so without fear of losing his job. how does this tell us that men are more likely to stand up for women in the workplace, and not that people are more likely to stand up for someone in the workplace if they feel they won't have to lose their job over it?

I woukd have no problem being with a feminist as even though im a guy a would consider myself one in a way because I strongly belive equality, however I cannot agree with the extremist feminists since they are more along the lines of female being better than male. My view is we should be treated equality and stereo types of what makes a man and a women removed, for instance im a guy but I consider myself quite feminine like im not extreamly manly at all.

Starving, once again you prove yourself to be sexist, your very brain works in sexist way and you see non existing sexist statments in every guys' posts. Where the hell did I say that men are more likely to report it than women? I mentioned the blood relation between the guy and the GM just to clarify what you exactly said: That it's the real reason why he dared to report it and not because he's guy, I was very clear. There's nothing in my entire post even implies that men are more likely or women less likely to report such cases.

If you wanna play the sexism police at least do it right.

All that don't imply that men are more likely to report it than women.

okeydokey.