Oh girls have it so much worse....

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Yeah, that's kind of the whole idea of it. All sexuals ARE perverts.



Being asexual usually isn't cool, but if you say so.

That's likely the case with many so-called "asexuals" these days. (i.e. they think different=superior)

My bad then, I did not recognize it as satire.



I did not say it was the same, I said both NT and AS females have the same access to going on a date because guys approach you not the other way around. You then have, both AS and NT, the yes/no choice to interact with the guy and go on a date. The interaction part before the date is set is of course harder for the AS girl than the NT for obvious reasons and I'm not saying that every guy that approaches an AS girl ends up asking her out on a date... but that first contact and choice is something you get lots of chances of and half the battle is already in your favor right there: He was interested and came up to you.

Then you have the range of acceptability... for a guy a shy quiet girl is not a game killer (for many it is actually desirable, its 'cute') as a shy, quiet guy is for a girl. Girls overwhelmingly prefer the ones with high social performance (the 'confidence' part all women list as a desirable trait) and that can 'carry a conversation' (another one that is almost always on that list)... and I'm not saying this is why they say YES to a date but rather why they allow these guys to get past their first filter and have a small chat to see if a date can happen.



I honestly think both sexes have the same risk of in that regard (the manipulator picking up on the socializing issues). Again, I do acknowledge women have the added risk of physical abuse... and the fact that by having far more chances to get a date/go on a date makes the frequency of it happening be more likely.



When I mentioned statistically I meant it literally in the sense that the more times you can actually go on a date the more chances you have to find the one guy that wont be an abusive jerk. If you only go on one a year then you can see how problematic it would be to find the right guy..one chance a year.

If you have more chances to go on a date you get more experience... what you mentioned sounds a lot like when people do a certain thing so many times it loses much of its appeal. In this case, if it was mostly bad experiences it would make it even less appealing. True, it SUCKS a lot more to be hurt several times a year but at least you get the chance to try.



I mentioned it relative to how many chances a girl has to date. Take an AS guy and an AS girl and go sit separately on a cafe r bar (just to use a generic place where people meet). Both just sitting there alone. How many times do you think the girl will have a guy come up to her compared to the guy? Sure some of those might be guys twice her age and such but she's putting zero effort just sitting there and she's getting the chance to say yes or no to even talking to the guy for a bit to see if a date can happen. And again, while I know that little chat to see if a date can happen is not easy, if you pay attention to how the conversation flows, the guy is expected to be the one engaging and moving the conversation along not the girl; she is a participant audience not the show host (to use an analogy).

The AS guy on the other hand, all he can do is go up to a girl and through social performance try to see if she says yes. That social performance part is the black hole of doom because that is where AS screws him ten times over. Not saying that every single girl will not even want to let him talk a bit but the great majority do tend to dismiss him after a couple of sentences. That is where he gets judged on the social performance part. If he passes that filter then comes the conversation that can lead to a date, which is several minutes of him being the show host... and again AS throws the wrecking ball in there.

I've been on a date with a girl with AS just once. When I met her and asked her out I could see her difficulty trying to be part of the conversation just as clearly as she could see my difficulty leading the conversation to try and see if she would like to go on a date. That date was an epic disaster on both sides... we literally could not hold a conversation more than a minute or two before *mind blank* kicked in. In the end she wasn't interested so there was no second date. A couple years later she was marrying a guy that was hypersocial. I'm still trying to figure that one out

I never said that being asexual is cool. But it is clear that you are just trolling on this thread, so it's not worth replying.

Yeah, if he wants to do it the NT-way, which usually isn't a good idea.

The alternative way is that he scans his environment, and especially looks at all girls he has in sight from time to time and then records if they look back. When he notices that somebody looks back at him, he focuses on that girl to see if she does it again. This way he can find compatible women without ever talking to anybody. The nice thing is that a girl can do exactly the same thing in order to find compatible guys.

Once they have found each other, they could continue to flirt, or make verbal contact. Regardless what they select, they still have eliminated the whole problematic NT population that they wouldn't have any success with anyway.

So, yeah, if you want to do it in a highly ineffective way, go ahead by all means.

I don't think society can be "sexualized". Human societies are mostly made of inherently sexual beings. So, if anything, we're slowly getting rid of some mechanisms we used to employ to keep one another sexually frustrated, and there's still a long way to go, as evidenced by the pervasiveness of slut-shaming. There's no "depth" in deciding to shun sex. It's still a self-limiting behavior, because you are refusing to explore a rich and complex part of life, not the other way around. Of course, it's less interesting if you're asexual, and you don't need to have sex if you don't want to, but that doesn't mean those who do want it are shallow or incapable of loving someone, or pursuing other interests.

I wonder how many women might be hastily identifying as asexual motivated by bad experiences or for fear of being considered sluts.

Of course it can. It happens when contraceptives can deal with the issue of unwanted pregnancies. That's the primary reason why humans in modern cultures can have sex all the time and especially why they can have one-night-stands.



Disagree. We have not moved in the direction of less sexual frustration for everybody, rather the reverse. It is only "acceptable" sexual encounters like sexual intercourse that has turned into something everybody should like and have. That also means that those that don't like this are discarded as "so-called asexuals" or "prudes" that just need some good sex in order to "come out" as sexuals.



You don't decide to shun sex. That's a ridiculous claim. Asexuals don't want sex because it is coupled with a strong feeling of disgust. It's similar to how a heterosexual don't want to have sex with a same-gender individual.



My guess is very few.

This is one of the most disgusting and misogynistic views that seem to spread around. It doesn't matter if you're married or not, if you don't consent to sex, you don't consent. You've got every right to refuse, regardless of whether you're married or not.

Can you fix the quote tags please? I don't like it when I get misquoted and I didn't write that sentence that's being attributed to me. I did write the inner quote that doesn't have a name tag. Anyway, it's not a genetic issue it's a societal issue. There are gender roles and men are often socialised into being the dominant one as per traditional masculinity. There's also the issue of some men seeing a girlfriend as possession rather another person (like the narcissistic types and those are the kinds of men who are most likely to kill and murder their partners, sorry to say).

As long as you are giving your consent, nobody is taking advantage of you for sex. Nobody owes you a relationship.



If that's what's hitting on you, that's your league.



You could always try intensive weightlifting for hours per week, clothes that highlight your muscle, anabolic steroids and a strict diet; i.e. stuff men need to go through to look good.

The hourglass shape is the desired figure in women because hourglass shaped women tend to be more fertile and have better genetics.



Nobody said this was rude.

Rather, sex has been socialized.

Sexual prudishness has been socialized, and just like this "no sex before marriage" stuff, bridesmaids, and so on, it's a Roman tradition.

No, that wasn't about you.

Indeed so tired of being made to feel guilty all my life for having a high sex drive or any sex drive at all. I don't want to have to deal with that in a relationship, though seems unlikely to avoid even if the woman her self has a really high sex drive.

27 now so yeah still forever alone. been 4 years since 23 and I'm still single and alone.

what o.O no we just like sex. people can be different we don't all have to be asexuals like you. please stop calling us perverts because we are different from you.