Which type would be more suitable for me given my looks?

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You made a great point. (sarcasm) I like coloring my hair, doing my nails, putting on fancy makeup, using Philosophy bodywash, wearing fancy clothes and jewelry, but I pay for all of it myself because I like it and I like feeling feminine. Why would I want to go out looking butt-ugly?

Why does someone who dresses up and takes care of themselves and looks nice offend you? Evidently these girls are doing it now without anyone's help, what makes you think they are doing it for a "return"? It sounds like to me that guys who feel inferior to girls like that and think they don't have any chance with them then decide to bring them down a few notches by calling them "high maintenance". I don't say that about a good-looking guy.

All I did was define "high maintenance" in order to answer your inquiry. It does not mean I think in that way.

Saying someone is "low maintenance" is always a compliment. I wouldn't mind being called that by a woman.

Well, being around men i can tell you what other men think of the man with a high maintenance girlfriend: sucker.

My experience has been that when all the painting is removed (makeup, eye liner, etc), the "high maintenance" women don't look any better than their "low maintenance" peers. Add in the vain attitudes high maintenance women tend to have and it's a no-brainer that the low maintenance women have much more to offer. Unless of course one is an execeptionally vain man, then of course it's a match made in heaven. Luckily those two tend to attract, so it's really not much of an issue for the general population.

You must have a different dictionary than me, Mr. K. And why should a person be thought of that way to begin with? Someone who wants a "low maintenance" person sounds like they don't want to put much into the relationship in any way.

^This is arrogance.

Believing your opinion is automatically correct and his is 'incorrect' simply because you have more 'experience'.

There are so many factors that go into this beyond 'experiences'.

For all we know, you could live in an entire different country, where social rules and conventions may actually be at least slightly easier to learn than in the U.S.

Cultural differences have always affected dating.

Even if you both live in the U.S., perhaps one of you lives in a progressive city and the other in a backwood bible belt country town.

Perhaps one of you is considered by women to be physically attractive, which would automatically buy you 'success points', and the other is considered by women to be generally unattractive.

And, typically, unattractive men are treated more poorly by society, so perhaps this made sly develop poor self-esteem, and if you are at least average attractiveness, perhaps you were treated better which helped you have a happier life and develop a more optimistic attitude than him.

I'm amused you have the audacity to resort to ad hominem attack.

I agree with Sly's stance on confidence completely, and have had just as much experience as you, and possibly at a younger age nonetheless?

Does this make me more right than you are? I don't believe so.

I've had two girlfriends, at least five girls have had confirmed crushes on me, possibly 7, and plenty more have had physical attraction to me. I've pursued and failed with 42 different females (they were failures, but I learned from each experience a little more and more).

This was within my five years of high school alone, one year in a small country town, another in a big city, and another in a small city, and I've got plenty more energy to pursue once again someday, as I enjoy the chase.

I know you already apologized, but I had to call this one out. And for that, I apoligize myself.

Funny, because i usually hear "high maintenance" from a person who just got out of a relationship with a high maintenance woman. It works both ways on the gender too: there are high maintenance men as well.

Low Maintenance means you don't cost your partner much money. It means you're down-to-earth. It means you mean what you say and say what you mean.

If I have the bucks, I enjoy buying women nice things. But money and gifts should never be the basis of the relationship. If it is, it's quite shallow.

This is what gets me. A lot of men say what you're saying right now - that women don't look any better with makeup on or fake boobs or hair extensions or fake nails. That's BS. Those are the same men that think Marilyn Monroe was all that and more (even though she wore so much lipstick her mouth looked like a monkey's butt), and how about the Victoria Secret models, or the Playboy Bunnies or the vast amount of beautiful movie stars who's pictures are plastered all over this forum? You call women that try to look good "high maintenance" and all these women you call that are only trying to look better because they have the competition of all these models and movie stars that men adore. It's the men that make women want to "doll" themselves up.

What? Are you criticizing me or Einstein?

What have I done wrong?

Not you, you just happen to be the person that "savant" person was talking to. It is his post that is demeaning to women.

Now I gotta go exercise. Even though some of you might think that exercising is just to make one "look good", it's also good for your health, FYI. I highly recommend it.

Well that may be the case with them, for me I never thought Marilyn Monroe was all that, nor any of the models. I actually see low confidence when I see those images. But, that's just me. And yes, some men may claim "high maintenance" and then go on and on about models-- realize, they like looking at the models, doesn't mean they'd want to date them more than the requisite three dates (you know the meme I'm getting at) so they can brag. Those are the same type of vain men I mentioned earlier, hence the reason those two types belong with each other.

Guys are all about looks, otherwise, guys like Boo wouldn't be asking questions about how they can improve their looks thinking that if they do then that will get them "THE girl". They shouldn't be worried so much about their looks - just go out looking butt-ugly like you think women should do. Does that mean that Boo is "high maintenance"?

And another thing, those guys like looking at those models, but may not want to date them BECAUSE those model-type women are going to want a good-looking man and looking good doesn't come easy. You think Shaun T or Vin Diesel sit around eating bon bons?





I'll take high-maintenance any day! Yowzer!

@NurseAngela. You seem to be missing the point-- it's not how one looks, it's how much value one attaches to those looks. The fact is that if one spends all their time attempting to "look good" then they're probably not offering anything else, since all their time is spent on looks. Yes, you can tell that from a picture. There's nothing wrong with looking good, but if your entire life is based on that, then yeah you don't really have much to offer aside from that. That's where high maintenance comes into play: a person who's only goal is to look good needs constant reassurance that they do indeed look good. Sorry, but that's tedious and high maintenance. So yeah, if I were a dater, I'd go for the girl that doesn't spend half the day attempting to look like a super model and spends that time doing something she actually enjoys-- that's something a potential partner can bond with. I'd rather spend my time doing some activity we both enjoy than spending my time reassuring someone that they do indeed look good.