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05 Aug 2018, 3:53 pm

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Why are you assuming I’d only go for a NT male? My last relationship was with a man who had ADHD so not technically NT.

I’m not at all against a relationship with someone who’s ND.


Sorry if I seemed presumptuous. I'm was talking more about your responses to men on this site. Don't get hung up on the battle of the sexes. Most criticisms of "women" or "men" are, much more correctly, criticisms of NEUROTYPICALS by Aspies. We all know this, let's not pretend otherwise. That's all I was getting at.


Nope. This is just wrong. Aspies can be jerks just as easily as NTs.


Forget about this forum. In your everyday life, what's the ratio of Aspies vs NTs that you interact with? What is the neurotype of the people that abuse you most?

I think it goes beyond "being a jerk." Some NTs are jerks to everyone. Some are polite as pie to everyone.

A larger, gray-area percentage of NTs are jerks only to US Aspies because we're different, but are not jerks to other NTs. How many times has an NT been a jerk to you, but other NTs don't see it and say, "So-and-so is REALLY nice" and other NTs readily agree?

I've enjoyed this chat and wouldn't mind taking it up at a later date if you wish, but for now, I've got to get some sleep. I work night shift (11 pm) and it's 5pm Eastern Standard Time.



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05 Aug 2018, 4:06 pm

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A larger, gray-area percentage of NTs are jerks only to US Aspies because we're different, but are not jerks to other NTs. How many times has an NT been a jerk to you, but other NTs don't see it and say, "So-and-so is REALLY nice" and other NTs readily agree?



Okay, I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you here, but I did need to point this out (as the token NT).

Most NTs don't even know what AS is. So they would not label her as AS. We have no idea just looking at someone if they are NT or AS.

If an NT is a jerk, it's either because they're just a jerk and the AS had nothing to do with it, OR (and this is probably more likely) it was a response to some behavior that the AS exhibited - not just because they are AS.

And the NT would be just as much of a jerk to another NT who was different. Trust me, as the weirdo NT.


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05 Aug 2018, 6:11 pm

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I think there is a reason why you can talk about gender and behavior on Quora but not here. Quora members (of both genders) are mostly NTs, and so certainly know that the typical biases (like women seeking men with status and wanting fancy weddings, men only thinking about sex) are according to their own biases, and so they acknowledge that it exists and is true. When these issues come up on WP, many men and women don't have these biases, and so they attack people for pointing out that this actually is so in the NT population. Men that point this out likely do it because they've observed it (in NT women), but then get attacked for sexism (which it is not).

So, it would be far better if the women here stopped denying that these biases are real, and instead point out they are not like that themselves.


I have noticed on this site, while sharing my opinions and observations about people, that when I talk about a guy's behavior, few people seem to mind, and everyone seems to go along with it, but when I point out a female's behavior, most of the women usually get offended. These females are the same ones that point out guy's behavior on a regular basis, and don't seem to have a problem with it. To me, this is a double standard.

Also, I might add, when pointing out people's behaviors, I just share my personal opinion about what I have observed (no matter if it's a male, or female), and it has nothing to do with sexism, or bias.



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05 Aug 2018, 6:31 pm

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I think there is a reason why you can talk about gender and behavior on Quora but not here. Quora members (of both genders) are mostly NTs, and so certainly know that the typical biases (like women seeking men with status and wanting fancy weddings, men only thinking about sex) are according to their own biases, and so they acknowledge that it exists and is true. When these issues come up on WP, many men and women don't have these biases, and so they attack people for pointing out that this actually is so in the NT population. Men that point this out likely do it because they've observed it (in NT women), but then get attacked for sexism (which it is not).

So, it would be far better if the women here stopped denying that these biases are real, and instead point out they are not like that themselves.


I have noticed on this site, while sharing my opinions and observations about people, that when I talk about a guy's behavior, few people seem to mind, and everyone seems to go along with it, but when I point out a female's behavior, most of the women usually get offended. These females are the same ones that point out guy's behavior on a regular basis, and don't seem to have a problem with it. To me, this is a double standard.

Also, I might add, when pointing out people's behaviors, I just share my personal opinion about what I have observed (no matter if it's a male, or female), and it has nothing to do with sexism, or bias.


Wow. I’ve noticed the complete opposite.



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05 Aug 2018, 6:50 pm

Ha ha ha! The suffering of men amuses me, and so I laugh! For I am the eeevil gender. :twisted:



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05 Aug 2018, 7:41 pm

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I think there is a reason why you can talk about gender and behavior on Quora but not here. Quora members (of both genders) are mostly NTs, and so certainly know that the typical biases (like women seeking men with status and wanting fancy weddings, men only thinking about sex) are according to their own biases, and so they acknowledge that it exists and is true. When these issues come up on WP, many men and women don't have these biases, and so they attack people for pointing out that this actually is so in the NT population. Men that point this out likely do it because they've observed it (in NT women), but then get attacked for sexism (which it is not).

So, it would be far better if the women here stopped denying that these biases are real, and instead point out they are not like that themselves.


I have noticed on this site, while sharing my opinions and observations about people, that when I talk about a guy's behavior, few people seem to mind, and everyone seems to go along with it, but when I point out a female's behavior, most of the women usually get offended. These females are the same ones that point out guy's behavior on a regular basis, and don't seem to have a problem with it. To me, this is a double standard.

Also, I might add, when pointing out people's behaviors, I just share my personal opinion about what I have observed (no matter if it's a male, or female), and it has nothing to do with sexism, or bias.


Wow. I’ve noticed the complete opposite.


Don't forget there are those women users who post numerous "studies" trying to prove how awful men are.

Oh wait... nah, sorry that's the men who do that.

But if someone would like to point me in the direction of women doing this feel free to link to it. :lol:


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06 Aug 2018, 9:18 am

SilverStar wrote:
rdos wrote:
I think there is a reason why you can talk about gender and behavior on Quora but not here. Quora members (of both genders) are mostly NTs, and so certainly know that the typical biases (like women seeking men with status and wanting fancy weddings, men only thinking about sex) are according to their own biases, and so they acknowledge that it exists and is true. When these issues come up on WP, many men and women don't have these biases, and so they attack people for pointing out that this actually is so in the NT population. Men that point this out likely do it because they've observed it (in NT women), but then get attacked for sexism (which it is not).

So, it would be far better if the women here stopped denying that these biases are real, and instead point out they are not like that themselves.


I have noticed on this site, while sharing my opinions and observations about people, that when I talk about a guy's behavior, few people seem to mind, and everyone seems to go along with it, but when I point out a female's behavior, most of the women usually get offended. These females are the same ones that point out guy's behavior on a regular basis, and don't seem to have a problem with it. To me, this is a double standard.

Also, I might add, when pointing out people's behaviors, I just share my personal opinion about what I have observed (no matter if it's a male, or female), and it has nothing to do with sexism, or bias.


As a moderator, I know it's the complete opposite.

The male posters that endlessly generalize about women are the first ones to start frantically hitting the report button the second a woman says anything even remotely unflattering about men.


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06 Aug 2018, 9:25 am

FYI:


Currently, the mods are in talks to start cracking down on the endless negativity towards women on this site. Even Alex has noticed it. Posting "studies" to demonstrate the awful-ness of women is going to fall under the umbrella of bulls_t posting.


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06 Aug 2018, 10:25 am

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As a moderator, I know it's the complete opposite.

The male posters that endlessly generalize about women are the first ones to start frantically hitting the report button the second a woman says anything even remotely unflattering about men.


Never reported anything, and that kind of stuff doesn't seem worth reporting.



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06 Aug 2018, 10:28 am

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Currently, the mods are in talks to start cracking down on the endless negativity towards women on this site. Even Alex has noticed it. Posting "studies" to demonstrate the awful-ness of women is going to fall under the umbrella of bulls_t posting.


So, WP will now become a feminist site where real science is banned in favor of sociology and feminism?

I hope you will ban NT women from complaining about their aspie husbands too?



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06 Aug 2018, 10:41 am

Ok fellas, the party is over - i request a thread lock.



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06 Aug 2018, 11:10 am

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As a moderator, I know it's the complete opposite.

The male posters that endlessly generalize about women are the first ones to start frantically hitting the report button the second a woman says anything even remotely unflattering about men.

I'd like to see that.
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Currently, the mods are in talks to start cracking down on the endless negativity towards women on this site. Even Alex has noticed it. Posting "studies" to demonstrate the awful-ness of women is going to fall under the umbrella of bulls_t posting.

I do understand that spamming studies against women is annoying for women and should not be done, but I feel the need to remark that a study is only BS if not done properly.



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06 Aug 2018, 11:15 am

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I do understand that spamming studies against women is annoying for women and should not be done, but I feel the need to remark that a study is only BS if not done properly.


You should understand that in the BS "science" of feminism, it's not the quality of a study that counts, but if the conclusions support feminist ideas or not. So, on the new feminist WP forum, you will only be allowed to post studies that support feminist ideas. Everything else will be judged as attacking women. Something we already see, actually.



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rdos wrote:
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Currently, the mods are in talks to start cracking down on the endless negativity towards women on this site. Even Alex has noticed it. Posting "studies" to demonstrate the awful-ness of women is going to fall under the umbrella of bulls_t posting.


So, WP will now become a feminist site where real science is banned in favor of sociology and feminism?

I hope you will ban NT women from complaining about their aspie husbands too?


No, but posting "studies" with the clear intent to cast women in a bad light and generate bickering will be given the boot.

I'm tired of it, the other mods are tired of it, and, judging from the responses here, female posters are tired of it.

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I'd like to see that.


Ask Alex to become a mod and you will.


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06 Aug 2018, 12:01 pm

rdos wrote:
You should understand that in the BS "science" of feminism, it's not the quality of a study that counts, but if the conclusions support feminist ideas or not. So, on the new feminist WP forum, you will only be allowed to post studies that support feminist ideas. Everything else will be judged as attacking women. Something we already see, actually.

Let's say for example that you know a black guy and almost only talk to him about black crime rates and stuff like that. Let's also say for the sake of argument that you are only reporting real data, still the other person will rightfully assume that you are trying to taunt them.
So I don't agree that a study should be considered BS just because it doesn't agree with feminism, but it's humanly understandable that spamming such studies or threads might annoy some of the user base.
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Ask Alex to become a mod and you will.

Huh, I don't really like to ask people for things and I've never modded anyway.



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Peacesells wrote:
rdos wrote:
You should understand that in the BS "science" of feminism, it's not the quality of a study that counts, but if the conclusions support feminist ideas or not. So, on the new feminist WP forum, you will only be allowed to post studies that support feminist ideas. Everything else will be judged as attacking women. Something we already see, actually.

Let's say for example that you know a black guy and almost only talk to him about black crime rates and stuff like that. Let's also say for the sake of argument that you are only reporting real data, still the other person will rightfully assume that you are trying to taunt them.
So I don't agree that a study should be considered BS just because it doesn't agree with feminism, but it's humanly understandable that spamming such studies or threads might annoy some of the user base.
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Ask Alex to become a mod and you will.

Huh, I don't really like to ask people for things and I've never modded anyway.


The studies themselves are BS, per se, but the intent behind posting them is.


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