I don't care for "Love on the Spectrum"

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11 Apr 2022, 8:32 am

But are most or the average autistic people to innocent to think that way?



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11 Apr 2022, 12:11 pm

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But are most or the average autistic people to innocent to think that way?

I have no idea just the people in the show.


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11 Apr 2022, 5:14 pm

But wouldn't this show be more entertaining if it wasn't so innocent though and just had a little juice, kind of like The Bachelor?



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11 Apr 2022, 5:47 pm

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But wouldn't this show be more entertaining if it wasn't so innocent though and just had a little juice, kind of like The Bachelor?

In this situation setting the participants up to have sex as a way to entertain the audience would be considered exploitative.


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11 Apr 2022, 6:41 pm

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Are the dates always romantic dates, or are there any that just want to hook up more so, speaking of hookup culture being so prominant now?



Let's be honest, half of the people on the show probably wouldn't be successful in the NT hookup culture, even if they just wanted to hookup. Many of them aren't that physically attractive and some you can kind of tell that they're special needs. Don't get me wrong, hot NT girls make think they're really "sweet and adorable", but that doesn't mean they would want to sleep with you.


The only people I could see succeeding in the "NT hookup" culture are Chloe (easily the most conventionally attractive woman on the show) Sharnae and Kassandra (due to being young decently attractive women) Jayden (because he's gay and gay men are far less picky) Jimmy, and MAYBE Mark. Everyone else? No chance, they'd be out of their element for sure.



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11 Apr 2022, 8:13 pm

Oh I didn't mean to imply why don't they cover the people on the show going for hook ups with NTs. I thought that people in the ASD community would still like to hook up with each other, and thought they would cover that more so. Not set it up to happen necessarily, if that's exploitative, but cover it, when it happens within the ASD community still?



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12 Apr 2022, 1:04 am

I think for some guys, maybe in fact many guys, if the opportunity presented itself fairly easily, many guys would be down to hookup/have sex if there was an attractive woman willing to do so. But the problem is that for most guys that suck with women, that opportunity happens rarely and in many cases, not at all. And this is especially true if you are either below average in looks, autistic, or both.


I know for me, I never participated in the hookup culture, but that was just because I was a short autistic male and wasn't really considered desirable from a sexual attraction perspective. I wasn't celibate by choice but by circumstance; I even asked several girls straight up for sex one time and was declined and blocked each time. Perhaps had I been a normal sized male, more socially suave, and neurotypical, I would of participated in the hookup culture and had several sexual partners in my twenties, and had my fair share of long term relationships too. Unfortunately because my extreme height and my autism, that door has kind of closed for me. I still prefer long term relationships but no doubt in my mind, had I been a 5 ft 10 neurotypical male, I probably would of participated in the sex culture somewhat.



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12 Apr 2022, 1:12 am

Oh I'm sorry to hear that. I hear women like tall guys though, so is there such thing as too tall therefore?

But also, would autistic women be easier to hook up with in the sense that perhaps they are more direct in wanting sex? I know an ASD woman in the autistic community where I live, and she, not having good social skills, because she is ASD, will be much more direct and straight up ask guys if they want to have sex. So I thought maybe it might be easier to hook up with ASD women if they had to be more direct, because they are lacking in subtle social skills. Unless I am wrong, and it's rare to find one more direct like that?



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12 Apr 2022, 1:44 pm

With regard to the original topic, I can actually see how if you did a series of "Love Island" or the ilk in which all the participants are on the spectrum, it might succeed, however I would expect the participants to have some experience living on their own or as a member of a couple and not needing some sort of counseling, which would disqualify most of the participants on "Love on the Spectrum" except possibly Jimmy and Sharnae who aren't really participants anyway.


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13 Apr 2022, 8:22 am

ironpony wrote:

But also, would autistic women be easier to hook up with in the sense that perhaps they are more direct in wanting sex?



I think hooking up in general, is easier for women.

Men are usually less picky when it comes to physical appearance and are less picky in general. For instance, on Tinder men will swipe on 50% of women while women on the other hand usually swipe less than 10% of men. Also some guys will hook up with women they're not attracted to if they think they're an 'easy lay'.

Secondly, women are less likely to be considered creepy than men are. Women don't really trigger the creep factor in the same way that men do. That means that women can be more openly forward and sexual without social consequences. They can get away with more things before it's considered creepy.

If a girl walks up to you at a bar, starts touching you, and then asking you for sex, not a lot of guys are going to be weirded out by that, in fact many would probably like it. But if a guy walks up to a girl at a bar, starts touching her, and then asks for sex, it's considered more "creepy" and especially if the guy is not very attractive. Because like I said, men trigger the creep factor much more easily.



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13 Apr 2022, 8:35 am

ironpony wrote:
Oh I'm sorry to hear that. I hear women like tall guys though



I think that the bar/nightclub scene favors men who are tall (or at least average height) with broad shoulders. Basically if you look physically imposing or look like a manly man, then you might excel with getting girls in that type of environment.


A part of the reason why Elliot Rodger couldn't find any girls (a part from the fact that he had clear mental health problems) was because he was looking in places so far out of his element. He was only interested in hot sorority blondes in California at the party scene. Well guess what? Those kind of girls probably wouldn't be interested in guy like Elliot. He was a good looking guy, but his physical appearance nor did his personality match with what the type of girls he was chasing were looking for.



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13 Apr 2022, 8:41 am

The "bar scene" certainly didn't "favor" me.

People have to adjust. I knew I had no chance in bars----that I had to pick other venues to find love.

I'm a short man. And I look sort of "comedic," in a way. In my life, my weight has varied greatly. Most of the time, though, I'm pretty chubby.



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17 Jul 2022, 8:53 pm

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Blind dates can work if the pair have something in common. The big issue remains that too many people are stuck in the belief that just having Autism in common is enough. I understand that "Love on the Spectrum" is just a television show, but unfortunately we remain a tiny minority of the population as a whole. For millions if not billions, movies and shows like that are their only exposure to a person on the Spectrum. Shows like this reinforce the false notions that ALL people with Autism are children in adult bodies, that we are generally poorly educated, and that we always do best when we stay with "our own kind."

I am often asked if I would date a woman on the Spectrum. My answer is of course, "yes"......provided that Autism is not what defines the relationship. That Autism is where our similarities begin and end. I am ALWAYS appalled when I hear people on the Spectrum define Autism or people who are LGBTQ define their sexual orientation as "the only thing they have." As if they have no interests or independent thoughts.

Agreed.

My current and longest-lasting boyfriend is autistic. And I think this does help us understand each other.

BUT it is far from the only thing we have in common.


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18 Jul 2022, 1:44 pm

Muse933277 wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Oh I'm sorry to hear that. I hear women like tall guys though



I think that the bar/nightclub scene favors men who are tall (or at least average height) with broad shoulders. Basically if you look physically imposing or look like a manly man, then you might excel with getting girls in that type of environment.


A part of the reason why Elliot Rodger couldn't find any girls (a part from the fact that he had clear mental health problems) was because he was looking in places so far out of his element. He was only interested in hot sorority blondes in California at the party scene. Well guess what? Those kind of girls probably wouldn't be interested in guy like Elliot. He was a good looking guy, but his physical appearance nor did his personality match with what the type of girls he was chasing were looking for.


Did he say he only preferred that type?



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18 Jul 2022, 1:46 pm

Elliott Rodger wanted the girls to come to HIM.



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18 Jul 2022, 1:51 pm

Well why did Roger have to be so picky and not put in an effort if that's the case?