The 80/20 percent thing

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This is how I looked when I was 25. The young lady in the photo apparently thought I was a 10 as it seems she was smitten the first time she saw me. However I don't think most of my peers at the time would have agreed.



I'm 72 now and I'm not sure how one rates a 72 year old geezer.

A 23 year old woman of average appearance will usually have no trouble getting a guy wearing beer goggles to have sex with her, if she gives no indication of wanting anything other than sex.

However my point was that she seemed to take extreme pride in this behavior rather than feeling shame as most young women today would probably do. At least on Reddit, whenever a woman recounts having gone through a "whore phase" like that, she typically expresses shame and feelings of low self-worth.

You are looking at this in one-dimension. Male normies aren't all predators focused on looking for sex. there are plenty of opportunities through interactions in a coffee shop, take-away, workplace or anywhere with attractive women. Men enjoy simply interacting with an attractive woman without any strings or expectation for sex. Conversely the women (like your smiley/giggly waitress) know they have your attention. the positive vibe they get from men is a superpower.

In Japan there is the whole "geisha" culture where you pay simply for the company of a pretty young woman, the Japanese are generally more advanced in social development and understand deep down men really want female companionship and attention and are actually willing to pay to have a giggly/smiling female companion who shows them attention for a couple of hours.

Yeah you were a good looking dude MaxE

You'd think.

However in my 3 examples, this didn't seem to be a concern at the time any of them propositioned me.

The first was quite definite she had no interest in a long-term relationship.

The second just didn't seem to want to spend the night alone, plus she was unusual in that canonical sexual intercourse was the easiest way for her to get off, she explained to me that she couldn't effectively self-pleasure the "usual" way.

The third told me at one point that she thought me the most annoying person she'd ever met, but as it was "obvious" to her that I'd agree to have sex, she decided why not as she missed doing it with her ex-boyfriend from college. Any feelings she had for me or desire for me to commit came later.

Oh brother (brother in Christ), all men rate women? maybe not a scale from 1-10 but 100% they use something like a Likert scale.
For example in school
Was she's hot? - strongly agree, agree, somewhat agree but not sure, mid, below average - (anything else will be offensive).

Everyone rates everyone don't they

Isn't it human nature

I mean you might not realise you're doing it but you are doing it

The old "red flag" thing is a way of also rating people in order of preference for what ever reason you may do it

We live in a society where every time you click on something you're asked to rate it or to leave an opinion

Why should women rating men and vice versa be seen as any different

It's not dehumanising...it's actually a very human thing to do

Right that's it now. I'm going to the doctor's to be treated like cattle and be scored and rated in that way as well

Well I was quite the social outcast in HS (which was a single-sex boy's day school) then I went from that to a college that was also predominately male and the women there soon learned that the could be discriminating enough that whatever good looks you may think I had weren't enough to get me more than fleeting attention. I probably didn't gain any real confidence until around the time I was 30. I can see how if I had been ordinary-looking I would probably have ended up like all the other men on Reddit who've never had a girlfriend, and can't bring myself to look down on those guys in the way most people seem to think appropriate.

I don’t think we could make the claim that “everyone rates everyone.” Red flagging someone because of safety concerns and whatnot isn’t really the same thing as looking at someone’s body and ascribing a number to it as though they are objects.

Notice that I didn’t say “all women.”

Did your 3 examples know that you found them attractive enough for sex but not attractive enough for a relationship?

Cool we both have different opinions

From reading exactly what I said in detail, one can clearly understand that none of them cared at the time.

Going by what you wrote, I couldn’t so easily come to that conclusion. Even if I was solely interested in a sexual relationship with someone, being viewed in such a degrading way, as just attractive enough for sex, would be a huge mood killer to me. It’s different then two people having a good time together without that baggage if you get my drift.

Confirmation bias. We both have it. Let's both own it.

I didn’t make any firm statements, though.

I was merely commenting on your posts in this thread and suggesting possibilities that stood out to me, especially in light of key points which I won’t mention further.

I used to have an autistic female friend who rated men all of the time in terms of how attractive they were to her.

I didn't find it offensive in the slightest.

I agree with babybird and cyberdora, rating people in this way is completely normal.

Perhaps it might be somewhat socially obtuse to do that with people who feel it is objectifying, but aside from any social etiquette, it just seems like a normal, systematic thing to do.

Yeah it's like sifting