Why are Aspie Men Bitter Towards Women??

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01 May 2009, 1:22 am

^Aspieness has nothing to do with it, it's the mans job to do the chatting up, and the way it works a man will always have to ask a lot of women out to get anywhere, but then it does mean it is somewhat his choice. A woman will always have the advantage if they have no standards but it's not a realistic situation.

What you're really looking for is the number of AS men vs AS women in beneficial relationships.



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01 May 2009, 2:24 am

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^Aspieness has nothing to do with it, it's the mans job to do the chatting up, and the way it works a man will always have to ask a lot of women out to get anywhere, but then it does mean it is somewhat his choice. A woman will always have the advantage if they have no standards but it's not a realistic situation.

What you're really looking for is the number of AS men vs AS women in beneficial relationships.

That's the point though. The fact that, in general, women don't do the approaching means that they have it easier. Granted, there are exceptions and I'm just speaking in general terms.



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01 May 2009, 2:29 am

Uh yes I've some women do approach men, namely my sister and I had a friend who use to do the asking.

In fact, one time she tried to set me up with a date.


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01 May 2009, 3:33 am

Bataar wrote:
Rack wrote:
^Aspieness has nothing to do with it, it's the mans job to do the chatting up, and the way it works a man will always have to ask a lot of women out to get anywhere, but then it does mean it is somewhat his choice. A woman will always have the advantage if they have no standards but it's not a realistic situation.

What you're really looking for is the number of AS men vs AS women in beneficial relationships.

That's the point though. The fact that, in general, women don't do the approaching means that they have it easier. Granted, there are exceptions and I'm just speaking in general terms.


Just because they are more often approached doesn't make it easier... in fact, that places more pressure on the other party, not the initiator, in many regards. And for those on the spectrum, is being approached really a comfortable thing? For me, while it has a flattering aspect, it also puts me in a panic.


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01 May 2009, 10:33 am

I remember one time I was wandering around out in the desert. My water had run out a while back, and I was getting pretty thirsty. I remember thinking at the time that if I only had all the water I wanted, I'd be perfectly happy. Even then, I had to laugh at myself, knowing that if I had all the water I wanted, I'd still have plenty of problems.

I think it works the same way with sex and relationships.


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01 May 2009, 11:17 am

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I remember one time I was wandering around out in the desert. My water had run out a while back, and I was getting pretty thirsty. I remember thinking at the time that if I only had all the water I wanted, I'd be perfectly happy. Even then, I had to laugh at myself, knowing that if I had all the water I wanted, I'd still have plenty of problems.

I think it works the same way with sex and relationships.


You will ALWAYS have problems no matter what you happen to have. Thats part of life, get used to it. :wink:
Perfection(a state where you have no unmet needs, wants, or troubles)is simply not possible in the physical reality in which we live but I do believe that happiness is. I said it before and I'll say it again:

Happiness isnt getting what you want, its wanting what you Get

~anonymous

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01 May 2009, 11:27 am

CanyonWind wrote:
I remember one time I was wandering around out in the desert. My water had run out a while back, and I was getting pretty thirsty. I remember thinking at the time that if I only had all the water I wanted, I'd be perfectly happy. Even then, I had to laugh at myself, knowing that if I had all the water I wanted, I'd still have plenty of problems.

I think it works the same way with sex and relationships.


Humorous, CW - but your parallel doesn't work for me.


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07 May 2009, 12:14 pm

Because they want the 'nice guy' (i.e. ME) as a friend and they take that stupid as*hole jock that treats them like s**t, as a lover..

And because they say one thing and mean another, it's confusing as hell.



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07 May 2009, 8:02 pm

I'm not bitter towards women but I am resentful towards the idea of love. Love is foolish.


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07 May 2009, 10:23 pm

One day, one day, my geek will come... :heart:


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07 May 2009, 11:14 pm

We're bitter towards women because of the negative encounters we often associate with women. It's a gradual process, the more we fail in situations involving the opposite sex, the more we associate the opposite sex with the negative encounters rather than finding an underlying cause.

For example, I went on a date a few years ago and I was very nervous. I couldn't relax the entire time and she lost interest. I associated that bad experience with women "She was just an ignorant b***h" I'd say to myself.

The next time I went on any type of date, I remembered how the last one had turned out. Instead of fixing the problem (which had been in front of me the entire time), I had done nothing and was faced with the same problem. I did my best to act natural with moderate success. The date didn't go as bad, but it could've gone better.

After that I worked on the problem that was jepordizing my chance. I have better expereinces with my relationships now.

AS males are slightly more intelligent than NT males on average. This means we have better problem solving equipment. It would be a shame to give up something you could be good at.



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07 May 2009, 11:18 pm

^^ especially when being romanced by a nerdy geek is actually a turn on for some of us Mr. Spock lovers. :nod:

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08 May 2009, 4:59 pm

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^^ especially when being romanced by a nerdy geek is actually a turn on for some of us Mr. Spock lovers. :nod:

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:salut: You said it, Merle!


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08 May 2009, 5:41 pm

i'm not bitter toward women, but i fear i could be convinced.
i think i'm drawn toward a "feminine" way of thinking also, but i'm not sure..



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11 May 2009, 7:41 pm

I think it's because girls, most especially around the high school years, can be prone to be verbally abusive to guys they are "freaked out" by. In some schools I went to I was considered a creep, and girls often verbally attacked me unprovoked.

When I remained cool about it and didn't react or seem to care, they started displaying actual interest that went beyond just your traditional cruel teasing. Problem is, I had already seen what was below the surface of them. I had seen they were capable of mistreating someone simply on the grounds that they were socially akward yet well-intentioned... so I rebuffed all of their flirtatious behavior.

I refuse to date someone so easily inclined to cruelty.



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11 May 2009, 8:30 pm

A_Spock_Darkly wrote:
I think it's because girls, most especially around the high school years, can be prone to be verbally abusive to guys they are "freaked out" by. In some schools I went to I was considered a creep, and girls often verbally attacked me unprovoked.

When I remained cool about it and didn't react or seem to care, they started displaying actual interest that went beyond just your traditional cruel teasing. Problem is, I had already seen what was below the surface of them. I had seen they were capable of mistreating someone simply on the grounds that they were socially akward yet well-intentioned... so I rebuffed all of their flirtatious behavior.

I refuse to date someone so easily inclined to cruelty.



Regarding the last sentence, its good to find someone who is NOT insecure nor has issues with men. Those are usually the kind of women who are inclined to be cruel because they are power hungry. Unprovoked verbal attacks are certainly very rude, but keep this in mind: Rudeness is a weak persons way of imitating strength. They were hostile to you because in fact they're very insecure and you made them feel threatened. ITs amazing what the silent treatment does to young, manipulative women. Women in their teens and early 20s often have big egos and crave attention, the one thing that drives them crazy is being ignored.