Bigotry against involuntarily celibate men

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The rich often go further into debt than the "non-rich", because they feel entitled to having the best of everything. Then, their marriages implode and they get a cold, hard wake-up call about divorce costs, child support, alimony and debt repayment which often includes bankruptcy. I prefer people who live within their means and who are humble, rather than acquisition obsessed.

Case in point, the fake president.

The article is written by a woman.

The article is written by a mainstream woman. Meh.

Realistic people throw their judgements out the window as soon as they begin a conversation.

Fnord is a grudgey old man, who looks down on all young men, and who has absolutely no real perspective on what is like to be living in the current economy as a young man.
It would be nice if you stop to refer him as a source of wisdom, because he hates a lot of us, and it’s likewise.

True, but still she’s not a “bunch of guys telling guys”, no?

Fnord is welcome to share his opinion and experience, as we all are.
The fact a woman wrote that article doesn't change my opinion at all. It's rhetoric designed to promote commercialism.

It's very sad that women would promote this propaganda to younger women who might buy into the BS.

I've never even heard of a six hundred horsepower car and I don't know any women who talk about height, abs or package size. Size doesn't equal performance. Likewise, income isn't as important as a person's spending habits. I'd rather be with a modest spender with lower income than a rich person with a drug habit or gambling addiction who wants a six hundred horsepower car or a gym membership (gag me now).

Oh, I want several 600hp cars, no question about that. I also know how to drive a 200hp car faster than practically anyone will ever drive those. The western concept of performance is a bourgeois joke for the most part.

Here's a Datsun Fairlady for reference. Teslas, Hellcats & so on are not gentleman's cars at all.

I know a woman who went out with a man based on admiration of his car.
And it wasn't an expensive sports car, just an immaculately presented older car.
They're married now.

New cars are boring unless someone actually manages to use such absurd power. Same goes for us guys if I had to guess.

Saying stuff such as “no one is underpaid but only people living beyond their means” is an oral excrement, it is not wisdom and it not even true for countless of young men.
Opinions are welcome, and so my opinion on a such opinion.

They don’t know our stories and how really underpaid we are.

Ok I will tell my story to prove how really underpaid I am and i know exactly by how much: the CFO has whistleblown me the allocated budget (from investors) number for my salary, all of the millennial employees are being underpaid.
The only ones who are not being so are the seniors, who do more talk than work.
To be exact, my salary should be $5000 monthly for my position, I was being paid half of that. He told me I should ask for more without telling what he revealed to me, I did and and it was a dire negotiation, the CEO went telling me how valuable I am and such poetry and how i saved the company from bankruptcy (another long story) ...bla bla, but at the end he only accepted to raise it by $300, plus an overtime formula which I know still out of my allocated budgeted sum.

The CFO is a senior guy himself but he’s a Christian pious man who hates wrongdoings, and always gets in conflict with the CEO, the latter wants to get rid of him but he just holds too much power to be kicked (he oversees 3 of his companies).

So yeah, I am being underpaid by 56%, to put bluntly, I am being stolen 56% of my pay everyday. I am sure I am not the only case in the world.

But owners know that more than 70% of population gets paid less than 800 monthly and of the high unemployment rate, so they fully exploit us.

Sidenote: Forget 600hp, gimme 1400hp.

Slow & steady wins the race to 1400hp.

I completely agree with cberg's point about millennials' being underpaid, but I don't think anyone can complain about ONLY being paid $2500 dollars a month - that's damned good money by any standard, even in the US or UK, but especially in the Middle East.

It's useless in the U.S. if you're working on contracts.

Most people would have to rent to live with in their means, as most don’t have 200,000 laying around to buy a house, they’d have to take the bus too since they dont have 20,000 laying around either. Our whole society is run in debt. Capitalism for you.
Rich people in debt still have more then me. Some guy is 20,000,000 in debt so they say he’s poor, well nope as someone gave him 20 million and he still has the property worth millions. No one will loan me 20 million. I can’t get any loans. I’d rather be a middle class person in debt with a home and brand new car then a poor min wage worker riding th bus any day, I don’t think any of them would trade places either. Most will eventually pay their debt off too.