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18 Jun 2011, 6:48 pm

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18 Jun 2011, 7:01 pm

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It has already turned into a ridiculous extreme now.

I prefer to go back the discussion. We have not find the real answer about it yet, women.

Think rationally, I would not talk about monachy itself( I was discussing with several old British men about British monarchy on the day of Royal Wedding but I do not know how middle east monarchy exactly like I suddenly think about Shaikh Hamdan bin Mohammed Al Maktoum. more examples?).

Go back to my point. If a prince can do so, I would not think he will even have the sovereign. It is far too ridiculous for a prince to do. He should think about more important things than these. His heart is his Kingdom and the whole world. I cannot see any such thing from that man, he seems has not got any Royal Genes, etc.

That's all. I am not going to wasting my time here. Obviously


First of all I enjoy reading your insights. If all thought history then we know that royal blood lines like to keep there genes to themselves at times tho done not over look there behaviour especially some of the aristocracies love of the rakeish behaviours now. Now history can point to the promiscuity of the upper classes.

Oh now is this as want Miranda in Shakespare's The Tempest calls Good wombs have borne bad sons?


Thank you! I love Shakespeare as well, British man!
Which Play do you like best? Do you like his poems also?
Thank you very much :)

Triple revenge now :P



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18 Jun 2011, 7:11 pm

I am very sorry for that. I should not even think about to revenge anybody.

I am sorry, women. I felt sad last night, I know how bad such feeling can be, and I was attempting to give it back to you. I should not. I should try my best to avoid anybody feel the same as me because of that it is the one of the worst things to be misunderstood or be interpreted wrongly by others. I am so sorry.

If you would not like to forgive me, that is OK. I only hope that you would like to forget it.



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18 Jun 2011, 7:21 pm

Dont worry about it. I guess that nobody wants to live in poverty and perhaps that is what you fear.


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18 Jun 2011, 7:36 pm

metaphysics wrote:
cdfox7 wrote:
metaphysics wrote:
It has already turned into a ridiculous extreme now.

I prefer to go back the discussion. We have not find the real answer about it yet, women.

Think rationally, I would not talk about monachy itself( I was discussing with several old British men about British monarchy on the day of Royal Wedding but I do not know how middle east monarchy exactly like I suddenly think about Shaikh Hamdan bin Mohammed Al Maktoum. more examples?).

Go back to my point. If a prince can do so, I would not think he will even have the sovereign. It is far too ridiculous for a prince to do. He should think about more important things than these. His heart is his Kingdom and the whole world. I cannot see any such thing from that man, he seems has not got any Royal Genes, etc.

That's all. I am not going to wasting my time here. Obviously


First of all I enjoy reading your insights. If all thought history then we know that royal blood lines like to keep there genes to themselves at times tho done not over look there behaviour especially some of the aristocracies love of the rakeish behaviours now. Now history can point to the promiscuity of the upper classes.

Oh now is this as want Miranda in Shakespare's The Tempest calls Good wombs have borne bad sons?


Thank you! I love Shakespeare as well, British man!
Which Play do you like best? Do you like his poems also?
Thank you very much :)

Triple revenge now :P


Your very welcome! :D
The play I just quoted before the tempest is a great play with lots of symbolism in it, tho I do have a few of other I like, I studied the tempest, twelfth night and Richard II back in my college day, one can learn alot from the bard about the human condition. Plus I looked into Henry V with a member of my family who doing a degree in leadership and management.

To tell you the truth when I first read his sonnets I disliked then untill one of my tutors talked about Shakespeare's mental and emotional state at the time of penning then comparing that state to modern times then I felt in love with them as I understund about how he feel about love, a bit like myself when I'm in love with a woman



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18 Jun 2011, 7:38 pm

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Dont worry about it. I guess that nobody wants to live in poverty and perhaps that is what you fear.


Thank you. Poverty can be very complex.And poverty can prove a man who must have some indubitable defects.

I am not very sure about if being wealthy or not can prove so. But I believe that poverty definitely can prove that.



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18 Jun 2011, 7:43 pm

metaphysics wrote:
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Dont worry about it. I guess that nobody wants to live in poverty and perhaps that is what you fear.


Thank you. Poverty can be very complex.And poverty can prove a man who must have some indubitable defects.

I am not very sure about if being wealthy or not can prove so. But I believe that poverty definitely can prove that.

oh mannnnnnnn. why is this still under discussion if you don't want an argument?

judging a person according to their level of wealth is no indication of anything except their amount of money. there are just as many lazy rich people as there are lazy poor people, for example. money doesn't necessarily go to the people who deserve it more, so the people who are destitute don't necessarily deserve that either.


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18 Jun 2011, 7:47 pm

cdfox7 wrote:
metaphysics wrote:
cdfox7 wrote:
metaphysics wrote:
It has already turned into a ridiculous extreme now.

I prefer to go back the discussion. We have not find the real answer about it yet, women.

Think rationally, I would not talk about monachy itself( I was discussing with several old British men about British monarchy on the day of Royal Wedding but I do not know how middle east monarchy exactly like I suddenly think about Shaikh Hamdan bin Mohammed Al Maktoum. more examples?).

Go back to my point. If a prince can do so, I would not think he will even have the sovereign. It is far too ridiculous for a prince to do. He should think about more important things than these. His heart is his Kingdom and the whole world. I cannot see any such thing from that man, he seems has not got any Royal Genes, etc.

That's all. I am not going to wasting my time here. Obviously


First of all I enjoy reading your insights. If all thought history then we know that royal blood lines like to keep there genes to themselves at times tho done not over look there behaviour especially some of the aristocracies love of the rakeish behaviours now. Now history can point to the promiscuity of the upper classes.

Oh now is this as want Miranda in Shakespare's The Tempest calls Good wombs have borne bad sons?


Thank you! I love Shakespeare as well, British man!
Which Play do you like best? Do you like his poems also?
Thank you very much :)

Triple revenge now :P


Your very welcome! :D
The play I just quoted before the tempest is a great play with lots of symbolism in it, tho I do have a few of other I like, I studied the tempest, twelfth night and Richard II back in my college day, one can learn alot from the bard about the human condition. Plus I looked into Henry V with a member of my family who doing a degree in leadership and management.

To tell you the truth when I first read his sonnets I disliked then untill one of my tutors talked about Shakespeare's mental and emotional state at the time of penning then comparing that state to modern times then I felt in love with them as I understund about how he feel about love, a bit like myself when I'm in love with a woman


Hiya. :P Yes, I agree your view on his feel about love!! ! I feel the same as you. :P

I like his Venus and Adonis. I have been read his historical plays, but I am a little bit unsure about its reliability...Never mind, as long as we enjoy it! Literature's reliability does not matter as long as it is beautiful enough...

I have been chosen to play Cleopatra when I was at high school.. In a British private school :P

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Age cannot wither her, nor custom stale
Her infinite variety. Other women cloy
The appetites they feed, but she makes hungry
Where most she satisfies..."
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18 Jun 2011, 7:53 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
metaphysics wrote:
zen_mistress wrote:
Dont worry about it. I guess that nobody wants to live in poverty and perhaps that is what you fear.


Thank you. Poverty can be very complex.And poverty can prove a man who must have some indubitable defects.

I am not very sure about if being wealthy or not can prove so. But I believe that poverty definitely can prove that.


The class system is what creates poverty. It traps people in various levels of it.


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18 Jun 2011, 7:56 pm

It comes back as interesting as before :P

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18 Jun 2011, 8:00 pm

Good night :star:


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18 Jun 2011, 8:05 pm

Good night again, all of you, have a beautiful, poetic and exciting dream. :heart:



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18 Jun 2011, 9:27 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
metaphysics wrote:
zen_mistress wrote:
Dont worry about it. I guess that nobody wants to live in poverty and perhaps that is what you fear.


Thank you. Poverty can be very complex.And poverty can prove a man who must have some indubitable defects.

I am not very sure about if being wealthy or not can prove so. But I believe that poverty definitely can prove that.

oh mannnnnnnn. why is this still under discussion if you don't want an argument?

judging a person according to their level of wealth is no indication of anything except their amount of money. there are just as many lazy rich people as there are lazy poor people, for example. money doesn't necessarily go to the people who deserve it more, so the people who are destitute don't necessarily deserve that either.


Thats one thing accountants and economists do now! Professional yes outside of work who knows? I seen a good number of woman training in accountancy and economics while I studied those subjects, more the accountancy tho than economics.

Wealth in its economical definitions is associated with scarcities of valuable resources. Tho to be fair to both thos professions then do taken into account non financial factors. mmm...who knows the Balance scorecard might be a very useful strategic tool for relationships now ROFL :lol:



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18 Jun 2011, 11:42 pm

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A woman who chooses to marry someone doesn't mean she's primarily attracted to him above all others. But most of the time, the woman has to end up settling for someone she could have a good future with for the rest of her life (with her and with any potential kids).

In fact, a woman might marry someone she is not sexually attracted to in any way, just that he's a good partner willing to support her and her kids and do what she desires for her and the family. So she logically chooses to marry him. Not saying this is the case all the time, but it happens.

However, with all this, the subconscious doesn't go away. The prime attraction to men of high status will still be there, just that a woman doesn't necessarily feel she has to act upon it.

And high status can be manifested through many ways. It doesn't have to be through physical looks or money all the time. But there has to be some high status perceived in the man in order for women in general to be attracted to him.

So what am I arguing in the long run?

Don't know. Just that I'm making notes and expressing what I've learned and observed just for the sake of it.


Honestly speaking I have no clue anymore, you might as well be right, I only know my personal experience contradicts every point you make :shrug:

No only I refused to settle but actually became even more selective over the years :lol: - I honestly think that's the secret to my happy marriage.

But I already had money and status myself and didn't want children so I couldn't blame you if you would think my perspective isn't representative.


As I said before, we're a bunch of "atypical" people here. We're cognitively different from the 'typical" ones.

So exceptions may occur.

What do you mean by "selective" by the way? Were you looking for a husband with high status in your eyes (whether expressed through good looks, intelligence, social standing, or other)?



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18 Jun 2011, 11:45 pm

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Funny no matter what women say men define what women are attracted to....

This may sound shallow to you fellows but the first thing I'm going to notice is what he looks like then all falls into place though when it comes to looks, I'm not exactly as picky as you men. :wink:


Well I better. Got a job to do that makes a little extra pocket money requiring me to feed their animals and clean their house. Ba bye. :D


Good looks indicate high status in women's eyes.



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18 Jun 2011, 11:51 pm

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To be honest, MCalvera, most women would be happy with a guy who does not mess them around, is a decent person and has traits that match/complement theirs. Things like height and wealth are not as high priorities when it comes to happiness and this is true for many women I know.


I know it's not intentional, but you are being a bit misleading.

Height is a big priority among women. He doesn't have to be tall, but he still has to be taller ... unless the girl is of the unusual type who doesn't care if the guy is shorter than her or she sees very high status in that man despite his height.