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08 Mar 2012, 5:04 pm

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bush tribes of the kalahari have lots of women in their 70s

That is quite astonishing for hunter-gatherer tribes. The world-wide average life expectancy for women is 69.5 years, but only due to the long lifespan in developed countries. I'd expect it to be lower than that for tribal people.

not really, they eat and behave like people were evolved to, so logically should live the best/healthiest lives for humans.

It's true that many Western people live on an unhealthy diet. But if you look at the life expectancy by country, it seems that we nonetheless live a lot longer than people in Third and Second World countries:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... expectancy

Zimbabwe: 42.6 years, Switzerland: 84.2 years. Nigeria: 47.3, Japan: 86.1, and so on. Of course for the most part, this list compares sedentary agriculturalist people. Hunter-gatherers don't much factor into it. We know though that they face the same problem as their civilized (i.e., sedentary, agricultural and state-organized) countrypeople as far as water quality and sanitation goes.

The main reasons that life expectancy in developed countries has so drastically increased are sanitation and sewage systems, clean water through wastewater treatment facilities, access to fresh produce all year round, meat quality controls, and of course modern medicine. African tribal people typically lack all of this. I'm not sure that their more traditional diet can make up for this difference.

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08 Mar 2012, 5:05 pm

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Women naturally have a larger age range since men don't go through menopause. That's why Sean Connery is still considered attractive (that and the fact that he has aged really well).

and the menopause is there to stop women dying in childbirth as they age as their body weakens so that they can live to bring up their grand children, which suggests they are getting shagged or they would not need to be infertile. biologically older men dont need to be alive lol. Research shows old men have crap sperm which leads to deformities and miscarriage.

It's a bit of a mystery how or why menopause has evolved, because the average life expectancy used to be quite low until the 20th century (link). Neolithic women had a life expectancy of 20 years at birth and rarely lived to see their grandchildren. Medieval women had grandchildren at age 26-28, and were likely to die before age 40.

You're correct about the higher risk of defects and miscarriages though. This is also the case for women. The risk of both miscarriages and congentical defects is already increased at age 30, and rises exponentially from then on in. It is therefore quite worrisome that women have their first child so late in life nowadays. Of course one can lower this risk by picking a young partner, which again demonstrates why youth equals attractiveness.

Perhaps menopause is not an evolutionary adaptation but rather simply the hormonal consequence of having the eggs run out.

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08 Mar 2012, 5:10 pm

That reminds me, I've run out of eggs. I need to add those to my shopping list for tomorrow

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08 Mar 2012, 5:19 pm

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I'll show you pics of two of her famous younger relates (To be honesty am not attracted to the pair of them), I meet the pair of them before they became famous.

Lucky git, I wouldn't mind being introduced to them.

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08 Mar 2012, 5:23 pm

^^ I can see her underwear.

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08 Mar 2012, 5:28 pm

Now you can see her underwear I wonder how many more famous models Chip knows.

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08 Mar 2012, 5:43 pm

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so.... you people are saying that people have to look young, and have to avoid aging naturally, in order to be attractive?

i was not aware that "aging well" meant "looking as young as possible".

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08 Mar 2012, 5:46 pm

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I wonder how many more famous models Chip knows.

Just them two, tho I do know a few other famous people & that's a another story. :wink:

No I'll not introduce you to my friend's daughter and niece as I haven't meet up with my friend for over 3 years now due to my past personal problems that I just resolved my moving house.

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08 Mar 2012, 8:03 pm

aussiebloke, i don't think any NTs posted about aging well, did they? Janissy, you missed my point. i was pointing out that the use of 'aging well' when speaking of humans is illogical because it implies the exact opposite to aging: the maintenance of youth. doesn't matter if it is through nature or the knife, the expression should be 'aging badly'.

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08 Mar 2012, 8:14 pm

CrazyCatLord, the life expectancy statistics are irrelevant because they mostly include people who are living in settled communities. most people in African countries are not hunter/gatherers anymore. they are quite modern.

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08 Mar 2012, 8:54 pm

Well this thread has been both predictable and expected to say the least. On a side note, I'd rather not be youthful or attractive if I'd have to settle for guys like RICKY. Yes nothing lasts forever and I don't see the point in this thread. Many of us are already aware of that. On the upside my mom and dad are still together. In fact their relationship is much strong than it use to be. They're like best friends and my dad's more affectionate to her than he use to be. I think my whole family is rare on the whole though. Most of the people in my family have stayed together except my sister and her husband. My other sister isn't married but she's been with her bf for 5 years. They seem to be very committed to each other and my sister is 4 years older than him. Anyway I don't plan on getting with any guy soon unless it works out. Men are very picky. Better to be with one's own company than miserable with someone who expects you to look young your whole life or half as ugly as Britney Spears. There's my unscientific unacademic 2 cents.

Well back to what I do best, sitting alone in the dark with a cup of coffee in one hand and a cat sitting in my lap whilst I play I'm so Lonesome I can Cry and Are You Lonesome Tonight. I knew singers had a purpose.

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13 Mar 2012, 9:54 pm

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Guys, when you get all mopey about your crush not wanting you. Just remember she probably won't be crush worthy in about 5 years or so...

This is Britney Spears NOW.

Now look at Britney Spears from 13 years ago. Keep in mind that this is someone with access to tremendous resources and has an economic incentive to stay hot.

Facebook Is SMV Time Compression Info

Look up girls on facebook you knew as "hot" from high school and/or college. You will see my point.

Well, she's been greatly f***ed up by society's beauty standards. It should teach everyone a lesson. If you love your kids, do not force them to become like her. She is a very unhappy girl.

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13 Mar 2012, 9:55 pm

Chipshorter wrote:

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I wonder how many more famous models Chip knows.

Just them two, tho I do know a few other famous people & that's a another story. :wink:

No I'll not introduce you to my friend's daughter and niece as I haven't meet up with my friend for over 3 years now due to my past personal problems that I just resolved my moving house.

Who is that in your avatar anyway, I keep staring at it all the time. ^^

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14 Mar 2012, 2:04 am

TheHouseholdCat wrote:

Chipshorter wrote:

Wolfheart wrote:

I wonder how many more famous models Chip knows.

Just them two, tho I do know a few other famous people & that's a another story. :wink:

No I'll not introduce you to my friend's daughter and niece as I haven't meet up with my friend for over 3 years now due to my past personal problems that I just resolved my moving house.

Who is that in your avatar anyway, I keep staring at it all the time. ^^

It's George Best in his display image, famous English football player.

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14 Mar 2012, 5:20 pm

LEAVE BRITNEY ALO-

Oh okay, never mind. :lol:

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14 Mar 2012, 10:17 pm

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It's George Best in his display image, famous English football player.

HELL NO!! its was Kenny Dalglish. I have no love for Newton Heath FC, Wrong end of the East Lancashire Road, thank you :roll:

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