Tips for the men around here.
WantToHaveALife wrote:
it's like, men have to do more self-improvement as a person, in their life, than women do in order to be dating/relationship material, sex material, etc.
Just angers me, pisses me off
Just angers me, pisses me off
Are you effing KIDDING me?! !! How many ladies have suggested you wax your balls? Because I've had more than one guy ask me to shave/wax my area for them. How many ladies have told you that your ass is too jiggly? They totally love you but, really they think they'd love you more and you would just FEEL better if your ass didn't move when you ran. Or that maybe you should try a cleanse? Because 20 days of eating/drinking only lemon/pepper flavored water MIGHT make you loveable
How about you drop to 7% body fat and get implants and wax off every body hair except your scalp and *some* of your eyebrows and then talk to me about how men have to do more self-improvement as a person, in their life than women do. Oh, and if you should happen to have anything higher than a bachelors-in-anything? Forget it. No one will want your educated ass.
Cry me a F&$KING river. Men have to find a job. Full stop.
steviewonderau wrote:
attractive women are attracted to men who have more wealth and more power. old rich men are commonly seen with much younger wives/girl friends.
"IT is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife." Opening line of Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice.
"IT is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife." Opening line of Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice.
That is the biggest bull I have read, are you saying all women are money grabbing gold diggers?
I don't think so, I know quite a few independent young women that don't require a man to pay their way and don't want to rely on anyone for it either. I understand the point you are trying to make, however it isn't about money or wealth. I know guys that are welfare and they are successful in social pursuits and dating. Behaviour, charisma and reciprocation are key determining factors in that success and it's not simply a case of who has the better car or job unless the woman is specifically looking for that but to stereotype
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cozysweater wrote:
WantToHaveALife wrote:
it's like, men have to do more self-improvement as a person, in their life, than women do in order to be dating/relationship material, sex material, etc.
Just angers me, pisses me off
Just angers me, pisses me off
Are you effing KIDDING me?! !! How many ladies have suggested you wax your balls? Because I've had more than one guy ask me to shave/wax my area for them. How many ladies have told you that your ass is too jiggly? They totally love you but, really they think they'd love you more and you would just FEEL better if your ass didn't move when you ran. Or that maybe you should try a cleanse? Because 20 days of eating/drinking only lemon/pepper flavored water MIGHT make you loveable
How about you drop to 7% body fat and get implants and wax off every body hair except your scalp and *some* of your eyebrows and then talk to me about how men have to do more self-improvement as a person, in their life than women do. Oh, and if you should happen to have anything higher than a bachelors-in-anything? Forget it. No one will want your educated ass.
Cry me a F&$KING river. Men have to find a job. Full stop.
While I agree he neglected those standards you also have to admit standards for a guy are much higher than just having a job.
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steviewonderau wrote:
attractive women are attracted to men who have more wealth and more power. old rich men are commonly seen with much younger wives/girl friends.
"IT is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife." Opening line of Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice.
"IT is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife." Opening line of Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice.
Lets address a few things:
1ST Jane Austen's books are set in Regency times. They may tell you a lot about how things were done back then but I havent seen any balls in all my life yet there are plenty of them on it.
2NDLY what that line is meant to say is that every mother on the region was trying to pair up her daughter with him without knowing wether he was looking for a partner or anything because at that time males were expected to marry as soon as they could or they wondered about their sexuality... and he could afford to marry.
spongy wrote:
steviewonderau wrote:
attractive women are attracted to men who have more wealth and more power. old rich men are commonly seen with much younger wives/girl friends.
"IT is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife." Opening line of Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice.
"IT is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife." Opening line of Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice.
Lets address a few things:
1ST Jane Austen's books are set in Regency times. They may tell you a lot about how things were done back then but I havent seen any balls in all my life yet there are plenty of them on it.
2NDLY what that line is meant to say is that every mother on the region was trying to pair up her daughter with him without knowing wether he was looking for a partner or anything because at that time males were expected to marry as soon as they could or they wondered about their sexuality... and he could afford to marry.
People will use things out of context to fit their situation so they can justify their blame of external circumstances as such as lack of wealth because they don't want to accept that AS is the obstacle that prevents them from having the desired social success they want.
blue_bean wrote:
I wouldn't date an unemployed person. It's got nothing to do with money and more to do with displaying work ethic and ability to handle responsibility.
Although you say that, I think if the right guy came along and he had the type of charisma and behaviour you like. If he was your perfect guy but he didn't have a job because of circumstances, I think you would date him.
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blue_bean wrote:
I wouldn't date an unemployed person. It's got nothing to do with money and more to do with displaying work ethic and ability to handle responsibility.
With that, you just insulted:
1. people who can't work (i.e. people who have disabilities that disallow them to work)
2. people who try to find jobs who can't find them
That just makes all unemployed people sound lazy. (I should mention I am employed, but know people who cannot find a job for the life of them)
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DialAForAwesome wrote:
blue_bean wrote:
I wouldn't date an unemployed person. It's got nothing to do with money and more to do with displaying work ethic and ability to handle responsibility.
With that, you just insulted:
1. people who can't work (i.e. people who have disabilities that disallow them to work)
2. people who try to find jobs who can't find them
That just makes all unemployed people sound lazy. (I should mention I am employed, but know people who cannot find a job for the life of them)
I am trying to give her the benefit in the doubt and suspecting she did not mean that. I don't think being unemployed or disabled makes anyone less in value, at least it doesn't make them lesser to me but not everyone sees it that way unfortunately.
DialAForAwesome wrote:
blue_bean wrote:
I wouldn't date an unemployed person. It's got nothing to do with money and more to do with displaying work ethic and ability to handle responsibility.
With that, you just insulted:
1. people who can't work (i.e. people who have disabilities that disallow them to work)
2. people who try to find jobs who can't find them
That just makes all unemployed people sound lazy. (I should mention I am employed, but know people who cannot find a job for the life of them)
While it may have insulted them she's not obliged to feel sorry for those people or change her position on it. I don't have a paid job I only volunteer, and I certainly don't expect a woman to date me again just yet.
Maybe as Wolfheart said if the right guy came along she might make an exception for him (which would include your 2 groups) but if one had to choose they normally would pick a person that has a job. If we had to leave it to the mob to dictate the politically correct way to define our tastes in the dating realm then we'd all be single.
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WantToHaveALife wrote:
Shatbat wrote:
WantToHaveALife wrote:
it's like, men have to do more self-improvement as a person, in their life, than women do in order to be dating/relationship material, sex material, etc.
Just angers me, pisses me off
Just angers me, pisses me off
Women should also look for self-improvement. If a guy accepts a low quality woman just for her looks, he'd be headed into an unhealthy relationship anyway, and if he's willing to do that he wouldn't be that great of a guy anyways.
yeah but as long as he got sex from her, thats all that mattered to him
I guess you're right... if all you're looking for is sex. But you should be aware that even if that was true in your case, you should not assume that it's true in everyone else's.
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Wolfheart wrote:
DialAForAwesome wrote:
blue_bean wrote:
I wouldn't date an unemployed person. It's got nothing to do with money and more to do with displaying work ethic and ability to handle responsibility.
With that, you just insulted:
1. people who can't work (i.e. people who have disabilities that disallow them to work)
2. people who try to find jobs who can't find them
That just makes all unemployed people sound lazy. (I should mention I am employed, but know people who cannot find a job for the life of them)
I am trying to give her the benefit in the doubt and suspecting she did not mean that. I don't think being unemployed or disabled makes anyone less in value, at least it doesn't make them lesser to me but not everyone sees it that way unfortunately.
Yes, I did not mean that. I was just trying to point out that it's not all about money when it comes to women preferring career men. There's other things to admire in someone's career other than their pay packet and status. Some people put a lot of hard work into getting wherever they are, and to me that's a respectable trait.
FYI I've actually dated someone who can't work for disability reasons (somebody here on WP). It didn't work out between us for reasons other than that though. I'm full time employed too, and I have my own house and car, which I paid for with my own earnt cash, so you know I'm not out for any money. But I guess people will just see me as an exception to the rule
cozysweater wrote:
WantToHaveALife wrote:
it's like, men have to do more self-improvement as a person, in their life, than women do in order to be dating/relationship material, sex material, etc.
Just angers me, pisses me off
Just angers me, pisses me off
Are you effing KIDDING me?! !! How many ladies have suggested you wax your balls? Because I've had more than one guy ask me to shave/wax my area for them. How many ladies have told you that your ass is too jiggly? They totally love you but, really they think they'd love you more and you would just FEEL better if your ass didn't move when you ran. Or that maybe you should try a cleanse? Because 20 days of eating/drinking only lemon/pepper flavored water MIGHT make you loveable
How about you drop to 7% body fat and get implants and wax off every body hair except your scalp and *some* of your eyebrows and then talk to me about how men have to do more self-improvement as a person, in their life than women do. Oh, and if you should happen to have anything higher than a bachelors-in-anything? Forget it. No one will want your educated ass.
Cry me a F&$KING river. Men have to find a job. Full stop.
Men also have to shave their faces pretty much every day to even get a job in most cases. I've heard women talking about how they wouldn't touch a man's genitals if they weren't shaved or waxed. I've heard of men being told they had to go get their back and/or chest shaved/waxed as well. Stop pretending both sexes don't have problems, god damnit. I hear a hell of a lot more about women trying to change men when they get into a relationship than the reverse. And I've never met a guy who said anything about a girl's eyebrows. I personally think waxing that s**t looks ret*d, ESPECIALLY when you remove it all and then draw it back on with a pencil... Who's crazy f*****g idea was that?
For the record, whatever guy told you all that s**t was a complete as*hole, and I don't know why the hell you'd want to be with him in the first place. If he doesn't like who/what you are, then wtf is he doing with you in the first place?
DerStadtschutz wrote:
Men also have to shave their faces pretty much every day to even get a job in most cases. I've heard women talking about how they wouldn't touch a man's genitals if they weren't shaved or waxed. I've heard of men being told they had to go get their back and/or chest shaved/waxed as well. Stop pretending both sexes don't have problems, god damnit. I hear a hell of a lot more about women trying to change men when they get into a relationship than the reverse. And I've never met a guy who said anything about a girl's eyebrows. I personally think waxing that sh** looks ret*d, ESPECIALLY when you remove it all and then draw it back on with a pencil... Who's crazy f***ing idea was that?
For the record, whatever guy told you all that sh** was a complete as*hole, and I don't know why the hell you'd want to be with him in the first place. If he doesn't like who/what you are, then wtf is he doing with you in the first place?
For the record, whatever guy told you all that sh** was a complete as*hole, and I don't know why the hell you'd want to be with him in the first place. If he doesn't like who/what you are, then wtf is he doing with you in the first place?
Agreed. And what's worse? Some gals will refuse sex with a man unless he's had the most sensitive skin on his body surgically removed and his sexual organs all dried up and... "clean".
Yes, it's happened to me - turned down for not having my genitals mutilated.
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