Women who find muscles attractive!

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That's why I said in my edit that everyone has personal goals and attraction is dependent individually on the person if the person is an individual and doesn't just follow the media of what is attractive for their age groups through celebrities magazines and reality shows. It's not necessary for everyone to be a bodybuilder and I agree bodybuilding can be dangerous if it isn't done right or naturally.

I'm not just talking about half a gram of test but there are factors that are bad for the health, being massively overweight, abusing steroids, insulin, gh, diuretics, peptides, recreational drugs which often go hand in hand with that lifestyle, stimulants, painkillers, cutting down on water intake levels days before contest to look ripped, dieting down to 3% body fat.

Lol, cheap PUA advice from some webpage. What women really want is a guy who makes them feel a certain way. And that's about it. It's very subjective and individualized, which is why this thread is pointless.

As ive said in the past, im probably a month of good chest and arm workouts away from my ideal body.

Ive not had to stop eating what I love, ive not had to boost myself (I simply have learned to read my bodies production of natural testosterone and amable to tell what week I would get great results just by feeling), ive not had to quit drinking, or spend incredible ammount of time at a gym and any of the things associated with gym that i despise (smells, doing private things publicly, dealing with the "bigshows").

And even so close to my ideal, I dont finish it. Why? Because it wont change me. It wont change how i see things. I will continue being me. For the good and the bad

Nope, it goes back to author Paul Mckenna as he mentions in his book, he mentions many good points in his book instant confidence. If you believe in yourself and believe that you can achieve something, you can achieve it. People who believe they are worthy of a hot girlfriend, find a hot girlfriend but people who do not believe they are worthy end up not finding a hot girlfriend.

As for the actual development and size of a person, that is dependent on preference just like breast sizes.

However it's hard to say that one preference is preferred over the rest, similar to how some women would go for a lean build of 120-160 lbs to an athletic ripped build of 180-220 pounds to a huge bloated powerlifter build of 260-300 pounds.

Last edited by Wolfheart on 05 Mar 2013, 10:55 am, edited 1 time in total.

But just like with breast there is one type that most seem to be attracted to. And its mostly the 120-160 bracket

Nah, probably the middle one.

Nah for me it is a sport actually. I'm not a BBer. But everything I do in the gym is tied for athletic advantage. If I'm not convinced of the athletic advantage, I don't do it (sometimes this works out negatively, as I should have been doing heavy back to the wall curls when I started, c'est la vie.) It does consume a fair deal of my time, but mastery of anything does. In that sense it's lifestyle-ish.

I do think girls like muscle. I know I get more attention now, but I don't look BBer-ish, though. I do have a fair deal of muscle, 180 at 5'9 is the same weight as Frank Zane. That said, if I was smaller and had the same strength and athleticism (well hopefully more athleticism) I'd take that. But I got genes to be bigger and more muscular. So to achieve the same performance I need more muscle, power to weight ratio. I had 150lbs of muscle before ever touching a weight in my life. So I have a bigger frame, so for power to weight, gotta increase power in my case, as I'll never safely be 130lbs. However, to achieve my athletic goals at 130lbs I'd probably be 150 or so anyway.

As far as bodybuilding goes... I'm a bodybuilder in that I don't wanna be 300lbs. I'd lik to have abs. Wolf asked me "Don't you want 19" arms?" and I was like "Eh, I don't really care/not really." So that's where me and BBing part. I just don't really "get" it. Then again, if I was 130lbs maybe I'd have different body image issues and wish I was bigger. Who knows. I had a personal trainer do a bodyfat check on me and it was 17% bodyfat. I kept seeing myself as fat. The PT told me "Dude, you got a lot of muscle, you're how most people wanna look." That was sort of eye opening. I think if BBing was still "oldschool" I'd relate to it more. Before bodybuilding contests used to be at lifting meets, and you'd get an athleticism score by doing a clean and jerk, there was less drugs, etc. So if it was still like the 1950s maybe I'd like it more. But in it's modern form, eh, whatever.

I didnt mean you specifically, just the obvious contradiction in that post of his.

but since you mentioned something I was to say earlier ill say it now. Strength is not based on size. I waseasilly doing machine ab workouts over my body weight (actuallyy at the end of that months membership I was doing 80kg (176lbs) in sets of 20 reps.) Yet my abs are just defined, same went for most other workouts. I was doing the same as the so called average 150-160lb guy at that gym did. So to even get to that weight range id have to start bumping up to what a 170-180lb guy lifts or take boosters.

That's why I workout at a 24 hr. gym around midnight when nobody is usually around not even any employees(just security cameras). I can lift heavy weights without idiots staring at me most of the time, or arrogant women assuming I'm trying to impress them. It seems like more people with AS would use 24 hr. gyms to workout privately, but most on WP don't strangely enough.

I'd love to. But some people have jobs and lives.

Or just eat more.

Not easy when my regular diet is already very high protein and high carb. I eat around 5k calories daily as is. I dont see that number going any higher.

GOMAD. Gallon of Milk a Day.

Or just be happy being 150lbs. I'd be happy that way, anyway.

lol, i drink close to a gallon of milk a day, and atleast 4 eggs, plus many meats.

I would, but im 120lbs, not 150.

Fair enough, I'm on almost 5000 calories a day and over 300 grams of protein to maintain my weight at 220lbs but I have switched to whole wheat and organic food as it is a much healthier alternative to white pasta.