Interracial Dating and double standards

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07 Aug 2013, 4:03 pm

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07 Aug 2013, 4:12 pm

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07 Aug 2013, 4:39 pm

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I'm mixed-race. Recently, I broke up with my now ex-GF, who was white. We were the same age and had a wonderful relationship, but her friends forced her to break up the two of us after mistaking me for Hispanic. :x :x


What an immature girl.


What I meant was her friends forced her to break up with me because they were under the impression that I am Hispanic, which of course I am not. She reasoned with her friends, but they won in the end.


Yes, that´s a very immature and stupid girl. She didn´t deserve you.


OK...maybe you misunderstood me. What I meant was my ex-GF reasoned with her friends and her family concerning me. We had a great relationship, but I think people would have reacted the same had I been the one breaking us up.


So then why did you break up?


My ex-GF and I thought it was for the best.


So it wasn't because of race?


She grew tired of her family badgering her to break up with me as much as I was tired of her friends picking on me.


So it WAS because of your race. Sounds like an immature girl with very little backbone. If my friends told me to break up with my boyfriend who I love dearly and is clearly a decent guy, for something superficial, those friends wouldn´t be my friends anymore. Horrible family as well. It suprises me that Americans still think like this in 2013.


Ironically, had my mom and my sister found out, they would have told me to do the same because my-ex was white. Both don't seem to realize that I'm old enough to be in a relationship, though I have found a new GF already.


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07 Aug 2013, 5:00 pm

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Their sexual prowess is considered legendary.


Which is another racial stereotype. It might be 'positive' for the fellas, but a lot of the interracial porn I've seen is pretty dehumanising. I know people like it but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth and it plays to racists.

Perhaps there should be a "once you try white, you know that's right"? No, because it's racist.

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Usually the trailer trash kind of white girls that swoon over black men. You see them all the time here in the Netherlands.


Let me guess - African immigrants? Those from the Dutch Caribbean?

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I knew a girl whom her friends/family kept trying to convince her to quit her bf because he's shorter than her.


Bigoted morons.



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07 Aug 2013, 7:32 pm

Tequila wrote:
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Their sexual prowess is considered legendary.


Perhaps there should be a "once you try white, you know that's right"? No, because it's racist.


Well, according to Michelle

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07 Aug 2013, 8:18 pm

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Usually the trailer trash kind of white girls that swoon over black men. You see them all the time here in the Netherlands.


Basically, what you're implying here is that you have to be trailor park trash to be a white woman attracted to black men. How gloriously offensive.



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07 Aug 2013, 9:20 pm

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Usually the trailer trash kind of white girls that swoon over black men. You see them all the time here in the Netherlands.


Basically, what you're implying here is that you have to be trailor park trash to be a white woman attracted to black men. How gloriously offensive.


Agreed.

Talk about insulting.


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07 Aug 2013, 10:22 pm

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Why some white women prefer black men:

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Black men have something white guys don’t have anymore: confidence in their masculinity, their sexuality. They clearly know they’re men. White men appear to be waiting for the latest sociological research study to let them know if they are men or not. Yet black men are gentlemen, something else white men no longer are. They make me feel like a woman, both respected and desired. I can let go of my inhibitions, my need to control, when I am with them. How many white men can treat a woman like a lady and ravish her too?


Translation: black men, according to this white woman, are more "masculine" than other men. Whether true or not, a lot of white women think this, and it is socially acceptable for them to say it.


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I can see their point. If that's what they want, then that's what they want. And, I agree: all of the available evidence seems to suggest that, on average, Black men are more masculine than White men. I really can't perceive any valid counter-arguments. I'm not bothered by it--dem is just da facts.

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Usually the trailer trash kind of white girls that swoon over black men. You see them all the time here in the Netherlands.


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07 Aug 2013, 10:39 pm

WOW! I never felt she was implying that....


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07 Aug 2013, 11:21 pm

Kjas wrote:
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Usually the trailer trash kind of white girls that swoon over black men. You see them all the time here in the Netherlands.


Basically, what you're implying here is that you have to be trailor park trash to be a white woman attracted to black men. How gloriously offensive.


Agreed.

Talk about insulting.


I don't think that she necessarily meant to be insulting. A white woman certainly doesn't have to be trailer trash to be attracted to black men. She is talking about "swooning." I don't know anything about the Netherlands, but an upper class white woman might have reason to be more careful to control her urges to swoon publicly over there.



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08 Aug 2013, 1:21 am

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I don't know anything about the Netherlands, but an upper class white woman might have reason to be more careful to control her urges to swoon publicly over there.


Might have something to do with the kind of people a lot of the men who happen to be black are. If black people in the Netherlands are disproportionately likely to be involved in crime or drugs or be illegal immigrants and live in ghetto areas, that might be a reason why she said that. If they are well integrated into the mainstream Dutch population, then it makes a bit less sense.



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08 Aug 2013, 1:25 am

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I don't know anything about the Netherlands, but an upper class white woman might have reason to be more careful to control her urges to swoon publicly over there.


Might have something to do with the kind of people a lot of the men who happen to be black are. If black people in the Netherlands are disproportionately likely to be involved in crime or drugs or be illegal immigrants and live in ghetto areas, that might be a reason why she said that. If they are well integrated into the mainstream Dutch population, then it makes a bit less sense.


This, I find offensive.


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08 Aug 2013, 1:29 am

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This, I find offensive.


It's simple social psychology.

If black people are seen as dangerous, that might explain why most 'respectable' people wouldn't go near them. Yes, it is racist, but people might feel a need for their paranoia.
If they are not seen as dangerous and are considered not enormously different from anyone else, then it might suggest a problem with Dutch society.



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08 Aug 2013, 5:35 am

Shau wrote:
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Usually the trailer trash kind of white girls that swoon over black men. You see them all the time here in the Netherlands.


Basically, what you're implying here is that you have to be trailor park trash to be a white woman attracted to black men. How gloriously offensive.


Nope, that´s not at all what I am implying. First, there is a difference between usually and always. Second, there is a difference between swooning over a certain type of guy and finding yourself to be attracted to someone. You seem to have a problem with interpretative reading, just like you showed in your previous posts.

My cousin, who is black, is dating a white girl. Both of them went to grammar school. His girlfriend is sweet, well spoken, well behaved, cares for her surroundings, classy and intelligent. But then again, so is he.
My own (half) sister, white, has an adorable little boy with a black man. She as well went to university, is intelligent, cares for her surroudings, is wel spoken, etc. The same goes for her black husband.
So no, you don´t have to be a trailer trash kind of white woman to be attracted to black men.

I am attracted to black men, for sure, but swooning over black men like those girls in the video? Those girls are saying 'I love you black guys' rapping, and singing, and swag'. Plain ridiculous and extremely generalizaing. To be honest I find that far more offensive.
And yes, many white girls that swoon over black guys are the not very classy, not very educated, not very well spoken, quickly to get pregnant kind of white girls.



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08 Aug 2013, 5:49 am

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That's a bit much, isn't it?

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Nope, that´s not at all what I am implying. First, there is a difference between usually and always. Second, there is a difference between swooning over a certain type of guy and finding yourself to be attracted to someone. You seem to have a problem with interpretative reading, just like you showed in your previous posts.


I think the problem here is you having a problem with interpreting sarcasm and a guy trying to get a rise out of you. Oh you poor thing...

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I am attracted to black men, for sure, but swooning over black men like those girls in the video?


I'm a little confounded by your apparent distaste for women that get excited over men. I bet you just can't stand all those Belieber teenyboppers either? Women that gush about famous movie stars? They're all just trailer park trash to you? Curious.

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Those girls are saying 'I love you black guys' rapping, and singing, and swag'. Plain ridiculous and extremely generalizaing. To be honest I find that far more offensive. And yes, many white girls that swoon over black guys are the not very classy, not very educated, not very well spoken, quickly to get pregnant kind of white girls.


So let me get this straight, you lambaste these girls for generalizing black men, while generalizing these white girls yourself? Do you find no irony in this?



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08 Aug 2013, 5:53 am

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I don't know anything about the Netherlands, but an upper class white woman might have reason to be more careful to control her urges to swoon publicly over there.


Might have something to do with the kind of people a lot of the men who happen to be black are. If black people in the Netherlands are disproportionately likely to be involved in crime or drugs or be illegal immigrants and live in ghetto areas, that might be a reason why she said that. If they are well integrated into the mainstream Dutch population, then it makes a bit less sense.


Unfortunately, here, black people are more likely to be involved in crime or drugs, although this also depends on the country of heritage.
I would say that generally the image of black people in the Netherlands is not extremely positive. There is an area in Amsterdam called 'de Bijlmer' where nearly only black people live. There is quite a lot of crime there, especially in the night time, and therefore it is associated with 'the ghetto' for many white people.

I go to university in one of the most culturally diverse cities in the Netherlands, but even there I hardly see black students, especially male black students. Often times I am the only "coloured" person during a workgroup.
Generally, the image of Arabs, especially Moroccans, is worst here in the Netherlands. They commit most crimes in proportion. But still, for some reason, I see more Arab people at university than black people. I don't know why this is.