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CommanderKeen
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22 Aug 2015, 1:36 pm

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Wrong, Egalitarianism is the belief of everyone being equal. Feminism is no longer about women's rights, but merely women wanting to have special privileges over men, which they do now, because of Feminism. Self defense laws favor women, women usually make out well when it comes to divorce, men have to pay alimony EVEN after divorce, and the list goes on. Also, I find it hilarious that you never denied being too emotionally invested in what I have to write. You just resorted to calling me appalling.


What planet are you living on? Care to list the "special privileges" women now have? Self-defense laws favor women, how, exactly? Particularly given the ongoing epidemic of domestic violence, 98+% of which is perpetrated by men on women?

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5959776

Women earn 78 cents for every $1 earned by a man, are far more likely to be poor, are far more likely to end up poor and caring for kids in the wake of a divorce, and, well, Massachusetts and ended its archaic alimony law way back in 2012.
I think you're just bitter that, clearly, the female population has your number and avoids you like the plague. It's gotta suck to go through life really, truly believing you're entitled to
sex just because you've bought a girl dinner a few times.

That's a complete myth and the Huffington Post is very liberally biased. Women usually choose to go into social sciences, which pay less. More women are prone to be teachers rather than engineers. Which career do you think pays better? In my home state of Maryland where they are heavily against self defense, they even make an exception, but only if you're a woman. How often does the man come out on up when it comes to divorce, or when it comes to getting custody of his children? Also, thank you for the good laugh, I'll be thinking about that after I get my doctorate and I'm making $80,000 plus a year.



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22 Aug 2015, 1:40 pm

Since we're throwing around links.



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22 Aug 2015, 1:51 pm

Just to let you know, I am now bored of this conversation, so anything new you post I won't read. I know you're going to make a post anyway, because you're so emotionally invested; however I have stated facts and I don't need to prove anything to you. Not only have I stated facts, but I have also posted links of others stating facts. You are a feminist however, so naturally logic and reason just go over your head. I'm fine. I'm sitting here calm and relaxed. I hope you have a nice life and you stop being so angry, it's really not good for your health.



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22 Aug 2015, 3:55 pm

Money mediates all human relationships in capitalism. Thus one is very fortunate to meet someone who can truly relate to you through his or own logic but with affection. This is not the fault of either gender. We are subject to the the forces of capitalist social relations of which autistics can be less susceptible to. Hence our difficulties.



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22 Aug 2015, 5:35 pm

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I am the Friggin' Wolfman! I don't care what Greek letter I am--and it varies by the day, anyway. I'm never Alpha, though (except in my Walter Mitty fantasies). The reason why height doesn't matter is because we are the same height when we make love.

only one kind of "height" matters then.



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22 Aug 2015, 5:38 pm

IMHO unfettered capitalism is the great amplifier of human evil.



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22 Aug 2015, 8:14 pm

As someone who's had a degree of success with girls, I'd say that there were groups of them who liked being treated kindly up through high school. I was in a Christian environment in HS and college, and could see trails splitting off where girls would follow after the muscle-bound and popular, where the dominators seemed to start doing really well, but the women in my circles would still choose guys, including me, who treated them well, and weren't domineering pricks.

But that was 30 years ago, before the culture got completely brainwashed to believe that violence is romantic. Or maybe I was too young to realize that mature women actually are looking for guys who will dominate them. It does seem, though, that the more intelligent the woman is, the more she will be repulsed by the dominator types. When I meet a woman with brains, I can ditch all the confidence games and she'll still be interested in me. The lower they rank in intelligence, the more I have to tell them who I am (displays of confidence) and what I expect from them or else they don't think I'm strong enough for them.



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23 Aug 2015, 1:47 am

auntblabby wrote:
IMHO unfettered capitalism is the great amplifier of human evil.


I tend to balk at subjective expressions but I get your point.



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23 Aug 2015, 4:41 am

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It does seem, though, that the more intelligent the woman is, the more she will be repulsed by the dominator types. When I meet a woman with brains, I can ditch all the confidence games and she'll still be interested in me. The lower they rank in intelligence, the more I have to tell them who I am (displays of confidence) and what I expect from them or else they don't think I'm strong enough for them.


As a woman I would agree with this based on conversations with women I know, their levels of intelligence and the kind of men they are attracted to. There are anomolies, but I guess if you aren't that intelligent you don't want someone who is more intelligent than you and you go for basic survival strategy instead. Whereas a muscly dude who doesn't have much to say about anything would bore an intelligent girl to tears.



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23 Aug 2015, 6:03 am

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Wrong, Egalitarianism is the belief of everyone being equal. Feminism is no longer about women's rights, but merely women wanting to have special privileges over men, which they do now, because of Feminism. Self defense laws favor women, women usually make out well when it comes to divorce, men have to pay alimony EVEN after divorce, and the list goes on. Also, I find it hilarious that you never denied being too emotionally invested in what I have to write. You just resorted to calling me appalling.


What planet are you living on? Care to list the "special privileges" women now have? Self-defense laws favor women, how, exactly? Particularly given the ongoing epidemic of domestic violence, 98+% of which is perpetrated by men on women?

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5959776

Women earn 78 cents for every $1 earned by a man, are far more likely to be poor, are far more likely to end up poor and caring for kids in the wake of a divorce, and, well, Massachusetts and ended its archaic alimony law way back in 2012.
I think you're just bitter that, clearly, the female population has your number and avoids you like the plague. It's gotta suck to go through life really, truly believing you're entitled to
sex just because you've bought a girl dinner a few times.

That's a complete myth and the Huffington Post is very liberally biased. Women usually choose to go into social sciences, which pay less. More women are prone to be teachers rather than engineers. Which career do you think pays better? In my home state of Maryland where they are heavily against self defense, they even make an exception, but only if you're a woman. How often does the man come out on up when it comes to divorce, or when it comes to getting custody of his children? Also, thank you for the good laugh, I'll be thinking about that after I get my doctorate and I'm making $80,000 plus a year.


Duuuuuuuuude. American enterprise institute is a right-leaning think tank... waaaay more biased than the HuffPo which, you know, employs fact-checkers.

YouTube clips? Really? Really?

You may as well have written "here's one anecdotal story that completely negates an entire history of misogyny and abuse against women in the ENTIRE HISTORY OF HUMAN EXISTENCE".

If you are going to fling data about, why not refer to the U.S. census?

http://www.jec.senate.gov/public/_cache ... pendix.pdf

Or the nice people at the CDC for stats on violence against women:
http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/s ... urces.html

Women earn less than men, even after controlling for things like the profession they chose to enter, years of work experience (to take into account mat leave, leaving workforce to care for kids, etc) and the like.

Cite some real data, if you can find any.

(Blaming feminists and "alpha males" cuz women avoid you like the plague because you're, umm, rage-y and vile is such a cliche).



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23 Aug 2015, 6:48 am

Woman have been in the grossest forms of servitude throughout history, used and bought and sold as commodities and possessions, all underwritten by religion so it comes as no surprise that they still continue to be exploited and bought and sold. Choice still continues to inflame emotions when it comes to womens bodies and in the Islamic world, womens bodies are equally the subject of miscogeny.

The buying and selling of women was the first thing to reemerge in Eastern Europe after the end of the Cold War and has made many men lots of money.

Frankly this is one aspect of this allistic world I despise especially.



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23 Aug 2015, 9:12 am

hurtloam wrote:
if you aren't that intelligent you don't want someone who is more intelligent than you and you go for basic survival strategy instead.

So is the strategy for the less intelligent girl directed toward finding a guy that she is smarter than, so she'll have a chance of holding more power in the relationship? If she's not that smart, picking a dumber mate doesn't seem to be a good survival strategy. It would seem more beneficial in the shorter-term time-frame where the girl is just hoping to have some dominance in the relationship by virtue of her intelligence.

Women of higher intelligence seem to be looking for their equal or possibly even someone more intelligent than they are.



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23 Aug 2015, 10:41 am

I'm pretty sure a smart woman still prefers a partner who can beat the s**t out of a stranger coming to make trouble, to one who would instead get his ass handed to him.

Beatings speak louder than words.


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23 Aug 2015, 11:35 am

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I'm pretty sure a smart woman still prefers a partner who can beat the s**t out of a stranger coming to make trouble, to one who would instead get his ass handed to him.

Beatings speak louder than words.

I don't think that most women are really into violent men, though. And I am quite confident that I can handle any situation that comes up, so I don't get your reasoning. A smart woman would not want to be associated with a muscle-bound ignoramus because you definitely want somebody you can talk to.


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