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21 Mar 2016, 6:27 pm

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Bollocks. Men AND women use Tinder for dating and/or hookups. I've seen women's profiles on Tinder that state explicitly they're not interested in a hook-up....And I've seen women who are clearly looking for hookups.


Maybe, but then I'd never use dating for anything, and especially not for getting into an LTR. What you are saying means nothing since people date as a game too. A possible desire to date doesn't mean they are serious.


Yes people date as a game. But how do you think LTRs form? In many cases they start out as dating and *progress* to something more serious. It's nice when you can meet people casually in everyday life and then have it turn into something more. Sometimes that happens, and sometimes it doesn't. When you're a single, working adult, meeting people through shared activities and hobbies becomes much harder to do and some people meet their partners through their job(but this can have srs repercussions if things go badly!). FWIW, my kid sister met her current, live-in bf on Tinder some years ago.



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21 Mar 2016, 6:28 pm

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You, Quill, could probably get a date with a Scottish lass who likes to be "hen."

Some of them are cute, and smart!


Well played, sir.

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And may yer drams be as large as yer dreams.



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21 Mar 2016, 6:51 pm

QuillAlba wrote:
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You, Quill, could probably get a date with a Scottish lass who likes to be "hen."

Some of them are cute, and smart!


Well played, sir.

May yer lumm always reek.
And may yer drams be as large as yer dreams.

*swoons*



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21 Mar 2016, 6:56 pm

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49% of men but only 14% of women call dating a "numbers game".



huh? no, it means that men in average swipe right on 49% of times (meaning 49% of women) - while women only 14%.

It shows how far picker women are.

It is not clear whether these right swipes (14%) go to the same few hottest guys there (or at least with great overlaps) - or each woman has a different type in men, so one's right swipes are completely different selections from the other - Tinder is refusing to reveal that.
My gut feeling says that it's the former case, the right swipes from women are dominated by few guys.
It's not for Tinder's intrest to demotivate the average guys, hence the silence on its stats.



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21 Mar 2016, 7:34 pm

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49% of men but only 14% of women call dating a "numbers game".



huh? no, it means that men in average swipe right on 49% of times (meaning 49% of women) - while women only 14%.

It shows how far picker women are.

It is not clear whether these right swipes (14%) go to the same few hottest guys there (or at least with great overlaps) - or each woman has a different type in men, so one's right swipes are completely different selections from the other - Tinder is refusing to reveal that.
My gut feeling says that it's the former case, the right swipes from women are dominated by few guys.
It's not for Tinder's intrest to demotivate the average guys, hence the silence on its stats.

Yeah, I was throwing out a dumb made-up statistic to give a possible reason for your statistic. I wasn't being serious. Though I do think it is probably one potential reason for the difference. Men are probably more likely to do the "swipe everyone and then see who swipes back" game...which is like a numbers game rather than actually being picky about who to swipe.



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21 Mar 2016, 8:56 pm

Tinder's not the place to look for an LTR. Okcupid, POF, match, etc. with a profile that notes your desire for an LTR will be more effective.



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22 Mar 2016, 1:44 am

yellowtamarin wrote:
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49% of men but only 14% of women call dating a "numbers game".



huh? no, it means that men in average swipe right on 49% of times (meaning 49% of women) - while women only 14%.

It shows how far picker women are.

It is not clear whether these right swipes (14%) go to the same few hottest guys there (or at least with great overlaps) - or each woman has a different type in men, so one's right swipes are completely different selections from the other - Tinder is refusing to reveal that.
My gut feeling says that it's the former case, the right swipes from women are dominated by few guys.
It's not for Tinder's intrest to demotivate the average guys, hence the silence on its stats.

Yeah, I was throwing out a dumb made-up statistic to give a possible reason for your statistic. I wasn't being serious. Though I do think it is probably one potential reason for the difference. Men are probably more likely to do the "swipe everyone and then see who swipes back" game...which is like a numbers game rather than actually being picky about who to swipe.

I think both women and men are as picky as they can be. There's probably some women on tinder who swipe back 100% of men because they don't get much choice. And then there's picky men who swipe only the most attractive women (most attractive according to their taste obviously). That's why this dynamic isn't universal, but restricted to places where gender ratios are skewed more.



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22 Mar 2016, 2:23 am

Attractiveness is not very subjective, unusual tastes are rare, most men and women agree on what's hot looking and what's not - that goes for Tinder for sure.

For example most women agree that Ben Affleck is hot, in the princes thread all female members said that Prince Harry is handsome while Prince William is ugly.



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22 Mar 2016, 2:45 am

People are fairly similar and that's a good thing. It's difficult enough to understand each other as it is. :D



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22 Mar 2016, 2:53 am

Of course, many people will never admit that they are subject to conventional beauty standards and social conditioning when it comes to physical standards. I find it amusing when people come out of the woodwork to refute statistics, "14% Blasphemy!".

I wonder where modern dating will go with talk of virtual reality and sex robots. With the rise of the sex industry, I question how many men will choose not to traditionally court or date. The number of people getting married is at a record low, that is not surprising.

Tinder would have been rejected as a concept a few decades ago and now it is the norm for many people.



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22 Mar 2016, 2:57 am

Too much focus on outward appearance here. I could never just date somebody that I only found physically attractive. No matter how attractive a man might be, if I dislike his personality, he instantly becomes unattractive to me. And a conventionally unattractive man could become attractive to me if I liked his personality.



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22 Mar 2016, 3:02 am

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Yes people date as a game. But how do you think LTRs form? In many cases they start out as dating and *progress* to something more serious.


Not for me. That seems like a totally useless procedure. :mrgreen:

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It's nice when you can meet people casually in everyday life and then have it turn into something more. Sometimes that happens, and sometimes it doesn't. When you're a single, working adult, meeting people through shared activities and hobbies becomes much harder to do and some people meet their partners through their job(but this can have srs repercussions if things go badly!). FWIW, my kid sister met her current, live-in bf on Tinder some years ago.


You only work for 8 hours, which leaves enough time for shared activities if you prioritize it. IMHO, people that cannot find time for shared activities, and have to use Tinder or dating for finding a partner probably have no time for a partner anyway, so are not relationship material.



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22 Mar 2016, 3:04 am

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Too much focus on outward appearance here. I could never just date somebody that I only found physically attractive. No matter how attractive a man might be, if I dislike his personality, he instantly becomes unattractive to me. And a conventionally unattractive man could become attractive to me if I liked his personality.


Here you go again, Ms. President, speaking for the majority of people.



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22 Mar 2016, 3:12 am

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Of course, many people will never admit that they are subject to conventional beauty standards and social conditioning when it comes to physical standards. I find it amusing when people come out of the woodwork to refute statistics, "14% Blasphemy!".


There quite likely are "universal" beauty standards, but that only matters when people have an enormous amount of strangers to select among, like in online dating. It's not really much of an issue if you prefer to meet people IRL, possibly through shared activities or work. Also, attractiveness only matters for the initial phase when you don't know somebody. If you seek partners through shared activities, you will know them and no longer judge if they are potential partners by looks.

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I wonder where modern dating will go with talk of virtual reality and sex robots. With the rise of the sex industry, I question how many men will choose not to traditionally court or date. The number of people getting married is at a record low, that is not surprising.


More likely people will get back to the roots of what is important instead. At least, some people will. It's quite apparent that modern online dating has not increased happiness in humans. At some point, people will understand that it doesn't work very well for them, and seek more rewarding ways to go about it.



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22 Mar 2016, 3:13 am

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Too much focus on outward appearance here. I could never just date somebody that I only found physically attractive. No matter how attractive a man might be, if I dislike his personality, he instantly becomes unattractive to me. And a conventionally unattractive man could become attractive to me if I liked his personality.

Yes, but also if his personality is amazing but you don't him attractive at all. Would you date him? Would you marry?



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22 Mar 2016, 3:18 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Too much focus on outward appearance here. I could never just date somebody that I only found physically attractive. No matter how attractive a man might be, if I dislike his personality, he instantly becomes unattractive to me. And a conventionally unattractive man could become attractive to me if I liked his personality.


Here you go again, Ms. President, speaking for the majority of people.


At least, I think she is right. Also, I don't think she is unique in that respect. There are other girls with a similar view. You only get out the worst in people when you use material from superficial dating or hookup sites.

While my views of which girls are attractive probably are similar to most other guys, it really doesn't matter for if they are potential partners or not.