Which type would be more suitable for me given my looks?

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22 Apr 2016, 10:19 pm

How about bonding through exercise?

And the point that's being missed is thinking that cheerleaders, models and actresses do nothing more than their looks. Cheerleaders in the big universities have to keep a certain grade point average. I keep saying stuff because I think men give women a hard time and they give them mixed signals. They want the "girl next door" type to marry, but they really want to bang the good-looking cheerleader type. They need to make up their minds and start going after the homely-looking girls and quit watching Victoria's Secret models and buying the latest swim-suit issue of the hottest babes cause men keep talking out of both sides of their mouth, imo.
And I'll say it again - if you think you know a person just from a picture then you're only fooling yourself and probably are missing out on a lot of decent people.

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22 Apr 2016, 10:35 pm

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And I'll say it again - if you think you know a person just from a picture then you're only fooling yourself and probably are missing out on a lot of decent people.

Look, if a dude has on a Red Wings jersey, there's a very high probability he's a Red Wings fan or at the very least a fan of hockey in general. That's kind of the point with appearance, it's personal advertising, and if you're advertising things that you yourself are not, well then you're not doing a very good job at it and you're not going to be successful in the long run because you're just misleading people. Or let's put it another way, if I want a bookish and smart girlfriend, I'm not going to go looking at super models to find "the one". If I want a steroid induced jock boyfriend I'm not going to Comic-Con to find one. Sure people have quirks that you can't see in a picture, but for the most part they ARE advertising who they are and what they're about.

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22 Apr 2016, 10:48 pm

I don't think so. A person can be looking good in a picture and maybe it was a good hair day for them, but maybe they are actually shy and not really social and like watching a certain team on tv. That doesn't mean they are the type that goes to games all the time yelling and screaming and drinking beer and shouldn't be labeled as such - like what a typical fan is thought of as being.

Example - Me. I used to love watching football and would wear certain jerseys, etc. I never went to the games like a real fan would do - I would watch the game while I knitted because I'm more of an indoor girl. And if I happen to have put on some makeup that day are you going to think I'm just out for looks? I may put on makeup, but I also knit, watch the games, exercise, do homework, talk on the phone, whatever,all in that same day. You're making assumptions about a person just from a picture and you know what they say about people who make assumptions.

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22 Apr 2016, 11:12 pm

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You're making assumptions about a person just from a picture and you know what they say about people who make assumptions.

Yes, I know the saying...any proof it's actually true, or is it just another saying? Yeah, exactly. People make assumptions all the time-- that's half of what the people on this very forum complain about. So what's good for the goose is good for the gander (since we're into sayings that have absolutely no factual basis). Besides your premise that people don't use appearance to advertise themselves is bunk-- if it wasn't self promotion why spend so much time on it?

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22 Apr 2016, 11:29 pm

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It sounds like to me that guys who feel inferior to girls like that and think they don't have any chance with them then decide to bring them down a few notches by calling them "high maintenance".

I agree with this. It seems like for a lot of guys in these threads, "dating" boils down to a kind of window-shopping where they try to get the "best deal" on a hot new piece.

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22 Apr 2016, 11:47 pm

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It sounds like to me that guys who feel inferior to girls like that and think they don't have any chance with them then decide to bring them down a few notches by calling them "high maintenance".

I agree with this. It seems like for a lot of guys in these threads, "dating" boils down to a kind of window-shopping where they try to get the "best deal" on a hot new piece.

Thank you. And then in other threads such as this one, women who take care of themselves and their looks are then told that they're high - maintenance. I guess they just want us to look butt-ugly and stink. And if we did do that, then they would complain about that.

You know what? I don't care if I'm seen as high - maintenance or not, I'm going to keep doing my girly activities and my girly dressing and coloring and flattening my hair and exercising and spending as much time on myself as I see fit because it makes me feel good.

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22 Apr 2016, 11:50 pm

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Exaggerate much? :roll:

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23 Apr 2016, 12:17 am

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That's what this whole thread is about - looking at these girls pictures and coming to a conclusion of how they are in real life - including the OP.

I also don't like the term "high maintenance". I would then consider calling a lot of guys "low maintenance" because a lot of them tend to have very little ambition to do much in life, imo.

Well, being around men i can tell you what other men think of the man with a high maintenance girlfriend: sucker.

My experience has been that when all the painting is removed (makeup, eye liner, etc), the "high maintenance" women don't look any better than their "low maintenance" peers. Add in the vain attitudes high maintenance women tend to have and it's a no-brainer that the low maintenance women have much more to offer. Unless of course one is an execeptionally vain man, then of course it's a match made in heaven. Luckily those two tend to attract, so it's really not much of an issue for the general population.

This is what gets me. A lot of men say what you're saying right now - that women don't look any better with makeup on or fake boobs or hair extensions or fake nails. That's BS. Those are the same men that think Marilyn Monroe was all that and more (even though she wore so much lipstick her mouth looked like a monkey's butt), and how about the Victoria Secret models, or the Playboy Bunnies or the vast amount of beautiful movie stars who's pictures are plastered all over this forum? You call women that try to look good "high maintenance" and all these women you call that are only trying to look better because they have the competition of all these models and movie stars that men adore. It's the men that make women want to "doll" themselves up.

Thought you said they do it because they like to,now you say it's because men make them via competition with models 0.o make up your mind.

I don't really find models that attractive,they look unhealthy.

Only thing I know about Marilyn Monroe is she slept with jfk and died.

Victoria's Secret Is for women. I've never been in or want to go into one. Only seen women go into them.
I don't look at swim suit models.

Where are you getting your info s football game with jocks?

Men think maybe your high maintenance and so feel need to defend it due to past rejections.

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23 Apr 2016, 12:19 am

Barchan wrote:

nurseangela wrote:

It sounds like to me that guys who feel inferior to girls like that and think they don't have any chance with them then decide to bring them down a few notches by calling them "high maintenance".

I agree with this. It seems like for a lot of guys in these threads, "dating" boils down to a kind of window-shopping where they try to get the "best deal" on a hot new piece.

Odd I mostly see guys complaining they get a girl, any girl. Doesn't seem like the kind of guys who are picky only wanting a hot new piece as you'd say. They like me also talk a lot about emotions and waning a companion, which also goes against just wanting a hot chick to bone. Look I know how to repeat jock talk too.

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23 Apr 2016, 12:26 am

nurseangela wrote:

Barchan wrote:

nurseangela wrote:

It sounds like to me that guys who feel inferior to girls like that and think they don't have any chance with them then decide to bring them down a few notches by calling them "high maintenance".

I agree with this. It seems like for a lot of guys in these threads, "dating" boils down to a kind of window-shopping where they try to get the "best deal" on a hot new piece.

Yes because it's one or the other. It's either live like a animal or high maintenance. No in between. Also lots of women look beautiful without makeup. Maybe you don't but many do. Do you really think your so freaking ugly without makeup? Becaus I'll tell you right now makeup only enhances beauty it doesn't make ugly into beauty. Beauty is facal structure not the ton of your skin or color of your lips.
So unless you had plastic surgery the I don't get it. I'd honestly rather have a gf who didn't wear much makeup or none at all. Makeup runs and taste awful and waiting for her to put it on then later take it off before she goes anywhere or goes to sleep would suck. If she likes to wear it then I'll deal with it but I won't be blamed as the reason she does it.

What does bathing have to do with makeup

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23 Apr 2016, 12:28 am

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Only thing I know about Marilyn Monroe is she slept with jfk and died.

That's kind of the point though. You only know that about Marilyn Monroe because outside of sexuality, society seems to not give a s**t about any other quality a woman has. I can actually see Angela's frustration at this, but my point is it's not most guys, but a small subset that have power in society that keep pushing that message. Boys and young men soak up these messages and then repeat them and an echo chamber occurs. It's the same thing on the opposite side with men feeling they are judged solely by the balance of their bank account. The lowest common denominator is what you're judged by, not your strengths (as far as society is concerned, obviously individuals differ).

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23 Apr 2016, 12:36 am

Just telling it like it is. I'm tired of how all the men around here talk about women - like they're pieces of freaking meat just here for their enjoyment - tricks and one night stands and eye candy on their arms. I was in another thread where someone was talking about how worried he was that his girlfriend didn't impress his guy friends like he had hoped - maybe she was too fat and he should be going out with a skinnier girl. How do you think that makes a woman feel who reads that? When I read crap like that it just makes me resent men more.

That's what this whole thread was about - is the OP worthy to go out with certain women based on their looks? That one doesn't look like a 10 to me. Who is the one to judge whether someone is a 10? Is that all those women are is a number just because of how they happened to look that day at that time? That one has tattoos and usually they have a lot of baggage. Whatever. A person is more than just a picture.

I'm getting off on another topic here, but do you realize that's why more women get anorexia and bulimia because women are conditioned to worry about their looks at a young age? They don't have beauty pageants for little boys - it's girls. Barbie dolls for girls making us think we're supposed to have an hour glass figure, long hair and big boobs. Now men are saying that's high - maintenance and we are stuck on ourselves, but at the same time they are ogling the next "model" type that passes them on the street. Reading threads like this one depresses me because honestly I'm tired of competing against other women. Because of the way society has placed such an importance on a woman's looks, I'm actually depressed at times because I think that I can't measure up. I can't have beautiful nails because I'm allergic to the nail polishes and fake nails, I'm too scared to get fake boobs even though some of the nurses I've worked with have them, all of my long hair is mine and it's a pain in the ass to keep up while other women just go buy extensions.I keep exercising hoping that one day I'll look like those women on Turbo Fire. I don't think men know just how hard women have it and threads like this one just make things worse. Women are just seen as objects - as usual.

Why don't we start another thread about just the topic of men's jobs and how much they make. That would be interesting, but I don't think the men would appreciate it much.

I guess this is a sore spot with me, otherwise I wouldn't have said so much.

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23 Apr 2016, 1:24 am

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You're making a generalization there. You're just focusing on the men that think like that and ignoring the fact that there are plenty that don't. And it's not fair to blame men for all of common female body image issues.

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23 Apr 2016, 2:53 am

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You would probably really hate most of the rural towns in Australia, nurseangela. We're still waiting for the 'equality' thing to arrive... One day!

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23 Apr 2016, 3:06 am

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It simply refers to: very hard to pleased...having very high standards...

Would you rather want a low - standard girl? I'd like a guy who had some standards about him instead of just a"dud".

There's a difference between having reasonable standards and having very high standards; also the "high maintenance" refer to those partners who have very high standards when it comes to looks and money/gifts/vacations in particular; like how others have said.
Hight maintenance is simply a synonym of very demanding.

Those people exist, it is not like we are inventing something.

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That's what this whole thread is about - looking at these girls pictures and coming to a conclusion of how they are in real life - including the OP.

I also don't like the term high maintenance. I would then consider calling a lot of guys low maintenance because a lot of them tend to have very little ambition to do much in life, imo.

Well, being around men i can tell you what other men think of the man with a high maintenance girlfriend: sucker.

My experience has been that when all the painting is removed (makeup, eye liner, etc), the high maintenance women don't look any better than their low maintenance peers. Add in the vain attitudes high maintenance women tend to have and it's a no-brainer that the low maintenance women have much more to offer. Unless of course one is an execeptionally vain man, then of course it's a match made in heaven. Luckily those two tend to attract, so it's really not much of an issue for the general population.

This is what gets me. A lot of men say what you're saying right now - that women don't look any better with makeup on or fake boobs or hair extensions or fake nails. That's BS. Those are the same men that think Marilyn Monroe was all that and more (even though she wore so much lipstick her mouth looked like a monkey's butt), and how about the Victoria Secret models, or the Playboy Bunnies or the vast amount of beautiful movie stars who's pictures are plastered all over this forum? You call women that try to look good high maintenance and all these women you call that are only trying to look better because they have the competition of all these models and movie stars that men adore. It's the men that make women want to doll themselves up.

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Well that may be the case with them, for me I never thought Marilyn Monroe was all that, nor any of the models. I actually see low confidence when I see those images. But, that's just me. And yes, some men may claim high maintenance and then go on and on about models-- realize, they like looking at the models, doesn't mean they'd want to date them more than the requisite three dates (you know the meme I'm getting at) so they can brag. Those are the same type of vain men I mentioned earlier, hence the reason those two types belong with each other.

Guys are all about looks, otherwise, guys like Boo wouldn't be asking questions about how they can improve their looks thinking that if they do then that will get them THE girl. They shouldn't be worried so much about their looks - just go out looking butt-ugly like you think women should do. Does that mean that Boo is high maintenance?

Well....I am a porn performer, it is part of the career requirements!

My female audience pushes me to compete with Vin Diesel ;__;.

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