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07 Jan 2017, 9:14 am

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rarely do i hear of women having problems being able to get a date or get a boyfriend, and the reason why women don't get labeled the creepy or stalker label for being socially-awkward, is because women don't have to take social risks like men do, and even if women did take social risks, they would not get labeled that, because since men are physically stronger than men, it means women won't be perceived as a threat.


I take issue with this because I have heard these things said about other women. The thing is men on here don't hang out with women so don't know what women get called. You'll know what goes on with your male friends, so comment on that as fact, but when men say they know exactly what goes on with women, when they are just telling us that this is what they think goes on with women, it's annoying and we should point out what women are really saying.

That is not us saying that there is no difference, only that there may be things going on that you never hear about because you are not in the same social circle.

Yeah, women don't get labelled because of fear they may be a physical threat. The women get called crazy stalker because they are simply unattrative to they guy saying it and he finds this woman trying to interact with him to be annoying. I've mostly heard that kind of thing said about women who have bad social skills and who misunderstand how to behave in a not too forward way around men. Usually younger women who think that you just get a boyfriend by showing someone you like them even if you are super frumpy or weird. When they get to my age they/we give up because what's the point if you're always getting it wrong and being made fun of.



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07 Jan 2017, 9:34 am

He was saying that men and women in general have different problems. He didn't write it, but does it take a genius to understand that he meant to say "in general"? Is there anyone here who honestly thinks he meant 0% of women faces the same problems more often faced by men?
Or someone here means to say that women experience the same problems men face, and in addition they face other problems exclusive to the feminine gender?



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07 Jan 2017, 9:47 am

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i know that, it's just that the problems women face are different from men, and rarely do i hear of women having problems being able to get a date or get a boyfriend, and the reason why women don't get labeled the creepy or stalker label for being socially-awkward, is because women don't have to take social risks like men do, and even if women did take social risks, they would not get labeled that, because since men are physically stronger than men, it means women won't be perceived as a threat.

The above quote is total BS. Stop whining about how hard it is to be a man; I'm sick of it; can you find another black sheep to compare your problems to.

1) Women rarely have problems getting a date or boyfriend - total crap.
2) Women don't get labelled creepy - total crap.
3) Women don't take social risks - total, total crap.

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He was saying that men and women in general have different problems. He didn't write it, but does it take a genius to understand that he meant to say "in general"? Is there anyone here who honestly thinks he meant 0% of women faces the same problems more often faced by men?

"In general" is a cover for saying you have a prejudice.



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07 Jan 2017, 9:51 am

I know he didn't say they never get called names, but he said:

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even if women did take social risk


I know people who do take that social risk and get labelled bad things like crazy, desperate and weird.

Why not talk about it?



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07 Jan 2017, 10:00 am

hurtloam wrote:
Why not talk about it?

Because it deviates from the L&D protocol of blaming women for everything.



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07 Jan 2017, 10:02 am

androbot01 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
Why not talk about it?

Because it deviates from the L&D protocol of blaming women for everything.



You catch more flies with honey than vinegar Androbot01. It's better not to be sarcastic at they guys and belittle them, it just turns what could be a discussion into an argument where everyone on all sides gets defensive.



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07 Jan 2017, 10:07 am

I like Hurtloam. That's not sarcastic.



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07 Jan 2017, 10:10 am

hurtloam wrote:
It's better not to be sarcastic at they guys and belittle them, it just turns what could be a discussion into an argument where everyone on all sides gets defensive.

I know. I just find it frustrating when men deal with their issues by whining about how much easier women have it; it's an old and boring song.



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07 Jan 2017, 10:16 am

androbot01 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
It's better not to be sarcastic at they guys and belittle them, it just turns what could be a discussion into an argument where everyone on all sides gets defensive.

I know. I just find it frustrating when men deal with their issues by whining about how much easier women have it; it's an old and boring song.


Agreed. You (the Royal 'You') can complain about how easy women have it when you have spent any length of time living as a woman.

Until that time, this game of Which Sex Has it Harder is boring. If you don't know what you're talking about you should stop talking.


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07 Jan 2017, 10:26 am

androbot01 wrote:
"In general" is a cover for saying you have a prejudice.

I'm so tired of this feminist bullsh*t. In general means in general, go get a bloody dictionary and stop twisting words.



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07 Jan 2017, 10:39 am

Peacesells wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
"In general" is a cover for saying you have a prejudice.

I'm so tired of this feminist bullsh*t. In general means in general, go get a bloody dictionary and stop twisting words.


MacMillan Dictionary: "in general"

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in most situations, or for most people


So "in general" means "for most people" according to my dictionary source. And, again, it is not true regarding this issue. Saying that women, in general, are whatever, is prejudice with no basis in fact.



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07 Jan 2017, 10:43 am

hurtloam wrote:
What he said was

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rarely do i hear of women having problems being able to get a date or get a boyfriend, and the reason why women don't get labeled the creepy or stalker label for being socially-awkward, is because women don't have to take social risks like men do, and even if women did take social risks, they would not get labeled that, because since men are physically stronger than men, it means women won't be perceived as a threat.


I take issue with this because I have heard these things said about other women. The thing is men on here don't hang out with women so don't know what women get called. You'll know what goes on with your male friends, so comment on that as fact, but when men say they know exactly what goes on with women, when they are just telling us that this is what they think goes on with women, it's annoying and we should point out what women are really saying.

That is not us saying that there is no difference, only that there may be things going on that you never hear about because you are not in the same social circle.

Yeah, women don't get labelled because of fear they may be a physical threat. The women get called crazy stalker because they are simply unattrative to they guy saying it and he finds this woman trying to interact with him to be annoying. I've mostly heard that kind of thing said about women who have bad social skills and who misunderstand how to behave in a not too forward way around men. Usually younger women who think that you just get a boyfriend by showing someone you like them even if you are super frumpy or weird. When they get to my age they/we give up because what's the point if you're always getting it wrong and being made fun of.


This is very true I experienced alot of that before meeting my partner



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07 Jan 2017, 10:46 am

Why do some people get partners so easy?
They look good and and attract people they like.
Or, they're positive and don't set ridiculous standards.

Enjoy the text pyramids and semantics, folks!


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07 Jan 2017, 10:48 am

androbot01 wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
"In general" is a cover for saying you have a prejudice.

I'm so tired of this feminist bullsh*t. In general means in general, go get a bloody dictionary and stop twisting words.


MacMillan Dictionary: "in general"

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in most situations, or for most people


So "in general" means "for most people" according to my dictionary source. And, again, it is not true regarding this issue. Saying that women, in general, are whatever, is prejudice with no basis in fact.

A prejudice means that you value someone or a situation having in mind some preconceptions and thus you're not objective.
In general means that it is valid for most people or situations and it also implies that it doesn't apply to the totality.
You are just putting in my mouth words like prejudice that have a negative connotation.



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07 Jan 2017, 10:52 am

In general, L&D threads devolve into this ;)


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07 Jan 2017, 11:43 am

Peacesells wrote:
A prejudice means that you value someone or a situation having in mind some preconceptions and thus you're not objective.
In general means that it is valid for most people or situations and it also implies that it doesn't apply to the totality.
You are just putting in my mouth words like prejudice that have a negative connotation.


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a : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge b : an instance of such judgment or opinion c : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics


merriam-webster: prejudice

I am not putting words in your mouth; I am accurately describing the words you use.

TheSpectrum wrote:
In general, L&D threads devolve into this ;)

I wonder why.