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06 Nov 2017, 1:06 pm

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What’ll upset you more is when those kids break or lose their phone their parents buy them another and another and another.



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06 Nov 2017, 1:39 pm

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Who spends $4000 per year on bithday gifts? Or thousands of dollars week on food?? Unless they have 10 children?


Those are just averages I pulled out of my a55.

I said thousands a FORTNIGHT.

Well...the average person IS overweight.

An obese father and overweight mother and three chubby teens would certainly spend at least 500-1,000.

My normal weight family spend $500 a fortnight on food, I can't imagine how much a fatter family would spend.

Plenty of families potenially do spend that much on gifts.

The Xbox One was and still is $500 not including the controllers or Xbox Live subscription. One game is 50-120 these days. Probably $800-1,000 total for the Xbox One, controllers, one or two games and a 6 month Xbox live subscriton (which is a few hundred) ,

There are videos on faceboolFacebook right now of girls i knew in high school being given brand new cars by their parents.

This is what me and Sly and Retrogamer are talking about.

You argue these people are an entitled minority but it is possible they're not anymore.

A lot of girls my age I've met have everything given to them, parents paying for their $4,000 Euro trip, givng.them brand new cars, paying for their university studies, etc.

They accept this as.normal since if their middle class parents could do it they must believe that's what middle class "should", be able to afford.

Little do they know their parents were in massive debt and living paycheck to paycheck.


Right. Okay.



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06 Nov 2017, 1:41 pm

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An NT spends 5 mins, if that, writing a profile on a dating sight then forgets about it two miniuts later.
We spend days analysing and debating that profile depressing ourselves and each other, conclusion? well which ever one we come to you can bet we will analyse it to death. :)


I think a lot of NTs do the same. I’ve seen them b***h about it on gaming forums.



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06 Nov 2017, 1:43 pm

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This one I just find disturbing , he’s a mutural Match from Pof. She openly admitting she just use guys to get what she wants then throw them away and she’s a therapist

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I'm a mental health therapist who also does drug and alcohol counseling. I was in the Marines and my ultimate goal is to work with veterans and their family so I can continue to help support my fellow service members! I'm not interested in sex at all. So don't bother. I am vapid and shallow, so if you don't look up to my standards, I'll just lie to you to get what I want till I've grown bored of you. I will not be your romantic partner AND therapist! I'm not going to talk to you like you are a client, but realize that I am knowledgeable and I can't/won't dumb myself down to appease someone so their frail or delicate ego isn't hurt. I want to be able to have a logical conversation with my partner. I also want to be able to relax at the end of the day and be able to laugh with my partner.


Um avoid like the plague? She’s doing you a favour. Dodge a bullet.



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06 Nov 2017, 2:40 pm

sly279 wrote:
This one I just find disturbing , he’s a mutural Match from Pof. She openly admitting she just use guys to get what she wants then throw them away and she’s a therapist

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I'm a mental health therapist who also does drug and alcohol counseling. I was in the Marines and my ultimate goal is to work with veterans and their family so I can continue to help support my fellow service members! I'm not interested in sex at all. So don't bother. I am vapid and shallow, so if you don't look up to my standards, I'll just lie to you to get what I want till I've grown bored of you. I will not be your romantic partner AND therapist! I'm not going to talk to you like you are a client, but realize that I am knowledgeable and I can't/won't dumb myself down to appease someone so their frail or delicate ego isn't hurt. I want to be able to have a logical conversation with my partner. I also want to be able to relax at the end of the day and be able to laugh with my partner.


If you're trying to attract a male by dressing yourself up as some kind of a catch in the most narcissistic way possible, proudly declaring you have no interest in sex is probably not going to help.

Why is someone like this a therapist? Jesus Christ, I thought therapists were supposed to be kind, selfless types. God help anyone who gets therapy from her.



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06 Nov 2017, 2:46 pm

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What’ll upset you more is when those kids break or lose their phone their parents buy them another and another and another.


Oh, I know all too well. As a teenager, we used to play street hockey (shocking I know) in a poorer area where most of the kids didn't have much money. One kid always had expensive sticks (which he frequently broke in angry fits) and drove up in his own SUV (as a teenager). He wrecked it after a few months and his parents bought him another one. He proceeded to wreck that one and you can guess what happened next.

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That's exactly what I mean. Young women who are raised spoiled by their middle class parents often expect their boyfriend to provide the same sort of lifestyle her parents did when it was really an illusion.

Let me say for the record my wife is NOT spoiled and never, ever wastes money. Still, she doesn't seem to understand the privilege she had thanks to her parents.

My ex on the other hand not only didn't drive, work or go to school, she seemed to think by doing a 4 hour shift at minimum wage she was contributing fairly. She was honestly shocked when I said I was not ready to share a lease with her and she got REALLY angry when I pointed out as a trust fund kid, she had no idea what being a financially independent adult was. When I finally demanded $200 a month to pay for the 80km a day I spent driving her and all the food she ate, I was treated like *I* was the selfish and greedy one by her parents.

My two female cousins act in much the same way. One doesn't really have a "real" job or career (she is a dance instructor) yet expects everything to be handed to her. I was blacklisted because I refused to let her take over my apartment for free while she was in town. Not stay on my couch, actually take over for the weekend while I went over with my now wife and to top it off she never wanted anything to do with me for years prior to that. She honestly thought that was a reasonable request and what's worse, most people agreed with her!!

To paraphrase Albert Einstein, I often wonder if I or everyone else is crazy.



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06 Nov 2017, 2:53 pm

I agree. She probably wouldn't be a good match for me.

I know therapists who are "forced" to be compassionate during the therapy situation---but are hard-boiled outside of the situation.

They seek to separate their professional from their personal lives.

I don't like that, really. I believe people should be therapeutic ALL the time.



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06 Nov 2017, 2:56 pm

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I agree. She probably wouldn't be a good match for me.

I know therapists who are "forced" to be compassionate during the therapy situation---but are hard-boiled outside of the situation.

They seek to separate their professional from their personal lives.

I don't like that, really. I believe people should be therapeutic ALL the time.


What drives somebody to become a therapist if it's not out of a sense of compassion? It's not like it's a high-paying job or anything. A good therapist is one who genuinely cares, not one who puts on an act.



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06 Nov 2017, 2:58 pm

sly279 wrote:
This one I just find disturbing , he’s a mutural Match from Pof. She openly admitting she just use guys to get what she wants then throw them away and she’s a therapist

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I'm a mental health therapist who also does drug and alcohol counseling. I was in the Marines and my ultimate goal is to work with veterans and their family so I can continue to help support my fellow service members! I'm not interested in sex at all. So don't bother. I am vapid and shallow, so if you don't look up to my standards, I'll just lie to you to get what I want till I've grown bored of you. I will not be your romantic partner AND therapist! I'm not going to talk to you like you are a client, but realize that I am knowledgeable and I can't/won't dumb myself down to appease someone so their frail or delicate ego isn't hurt. I want to be able to have a logical conversation with my partner. I also want to be able to relax at the end of the day and be able to laugh with my partner.


Both this woman and the one in your original post are being honest. They have demands and they are saying openly what those demands are.

Everyone has demands of their potential partner, it might be that they are always available, that they are faithful, that they buy them stuff, that they want children, whatever, everybody has demands. Unlike most people, male and female, these two are being honest and open about their demands.

You don't like those demands, that's ok, just appreciate they were upfront about them instead of them wasting peoples time. :)



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06 Nov 2017, 4:07 pm

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sly279 wrote:
This one I just find disturbing , he’s a mutural Match from Pof. She openly admitting she just use guys to get what she wants then throw them away and she’s a therapist

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I'm a mental health therapist who also does drug and alcohol counseling. I was in the Marines and my ultimate goal is to work with veterans and their family so I can continue to help support my fellow service members! I'm not interested in sex at all. So don't bother. I am vapid and shallow, so if you don't look up to my standards, I'll just lie to you to get what I want till I've grown bored of you. I will not be your romantic partner AND therapist! I'm not going to talk to you like you are a client, but realize that I am knowledgeable and I can't/won't dumb myself down to appease someone so their frail or delicate ego isn't hurt. I want to be able to have a logical conversation with my partner. I also want to be able to relax at the end of the day and be able to laugh with my partner.


Both this woman and the one in your original post are being honest. They have demands and they are saying openly what those demands are.

Everyone has demands of their potential partner, it might be that they are always available, that they are faithful, that they buy them stuff, that they want children, whatever, everybody has demands. Unlike most people, male and female, these two are being honest and open about their demands.

You don't like those demands, that's ok, just appreciate they were upfront about them instead of them wasting peoples time. :)


So you’re fine with women using guys they have no interest in solely to get as much out of them as they can then throw them away?

Would you equally be ok with men using women they don’t like romantically for sex why pretending to like them then dropping them when they get bored with the sex?



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06 Nov 2017, 4:26 pm

Am I the only person who isn't "middle-class" here?

I work at a chain restaurant washing dishes, and the majority of men I work with have wives and girlfriends. It was the same when I worked at Wal-Mart.


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06 Nov 2017, 5:31 pm

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Am I the only person who isn't "middle-class" here?

I work at a chain restaurant washing dishes, and the majority of men I work with have wives and girlfriends. It was the same when I worked at Wal-Mart.

I’m not middle class. I work retail min wage and get ssi.
I’ve heard dish washers get paid pretty good here.

Counter to common beliefs walamrt doesn’t pay too bad. My friend mad 14 an hour working wearhouse, before he got fired. I think he makes close to that at a cleaning company now.



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06 Nov 2017, 5:34 pm

sly279 wrote:
This one I just find disturbing , he’s a mutural Match from Pof. She openly admitting she just use guys to get what she wants then throw them away and she’s a therapist

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I'm a mental health therapist who also does drug and alcohol counseling. I was in the Marines and my ultimate goal is to work with veterans and their family so I can continue to help support my fellow service members! I'm not interested in sex at all. So don't bother. I am vapid and shallow, so if you don't look up to my standards, I'll just lie to you to get what I want till I've grown bored of you. I will not be your romantic partner AND therapist! I'm not going to talk to you like you are a client, but realize that I am knowledgeable and I can't/won't dumb myself down to appease someone so their frail or delicate ego isn't hurt. I want to be able to have a logical conversation with my partner. I also want to be able to relax at the end of the day and be able to laugh with my partner.


No sex. So she wants to get what she wants and not offer anything in return? Not even sex?

I've heard of women using sex to manipulate men but this women is trying to do the same thing by offering nothing.

She says she won't appease someone so their frail or delicate ego isn't hurt. Who wants to bet that she wants to have a frail and delicate ego? Who wants to bet that when her frail ego gets chipped she'll throw a temper tantrum?


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06 Nov 2017, 5:40 pm

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RetroGamer87 wrote:
Outrider wrote:
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Who spends $4000 per year on bithday gifts? Or thousands of dollars a week on food?? Unless they have 10 children?

People who buy an iPhone for each of their kids (gotta have the trendy brand :roll: )


Brand new I phones are like $800 aren't they?

3 kids = $2,400 right there.

Hale_Bopp, welcome to Middle Class Australia.


$800? Maybe in America. We have to pay beach tax, remember?

Below is a recent listing of prices for late model iPhones from JB hi fi.

These are the phones the teenyboppers think are trendy. They ask their parents for them so they can keep up with what their high school friends have.

They're designed more to be fashion accessories than useful tools. That's why they cost as much as a designer handbag.

Of course if those prices are to expensive their parents might just buy them on contract but that might end up costing two or three times as much in the long run (phone contracts can end up being a tax on people who can't do arithmetic).

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Nope iPhones are around $800 for past models.
You don’t pay more here making making payments.
They take the price divide by 24 and that’s what you pay each month. Sure at the end of two years you paid more then what that phone cost then but you’re paying the same price of the phone if someone bought it day one outright.
Phones are micro computers that fit in your pocket. And they keep getting more advanced. That’s why they cost the same as a computer. Mines a tool. But I do like how it looks much like I like how my laptop looks or my guns or my drill. You can have a tool and have it look good. If anything most companies drive to make their tools also look good. I bought bosch drill cause it’s blue and otherwise as good as the other companies.



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06 Nov 2017, 5:59 pm

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What’ll upset you more is when those kids break or lose their phone their parents buy them another and another and another.

True. Very true.

Another thing that upsets me is how the modern phones are almost designed to break.

The early phones had plastic screens. Now they have glass screens. Now some phones even have a glass panel on the back. I'm not convinced this so called gorilla glass is shatter proof.

I was looking at the Motorola Turbo. It's designed to be durable. It has little ridges around the screen so if it falls face down, the ridges will hit the floor instead of the screen. Why doesn't every phone have that feature? Why does every other phone have a screen that's flush with the edge?

Aside from the screen, the rest of the phone is coated in rubber, it looks very much like a rubber phone case that was actually grafted onto the phone during manufature. Why doesn't every phone have this feature?

The more a phone is designed to be a fashion accessory, the more it's designed to look like a beautiful glass sculpture, the more likely it is to break. And those trendy new bezelless phones are the most breakable of all!

Why should we get excited that Apple has made the new iPhone 1 millimetre thinner when people have to triple it's thickness by putting it an ottorbox case?

I hate these trendy new phones! I'm sticking with my BlackBerry!


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06 Nov 2017, 8:55 pm

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Am I the only person who isn't "middle-class" here?

I work at a chain restaurant washing dishes, and the majority of men I work with have wives and girlfriends. It was the same when I worked at Wal-Mart.


My family is lower middle class and scrapes by at times.