A girlfriend is not a lost puppy.

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I'm not quoting right now because it's getting large enough now as is and I'd rather just start anew. Feel free to quote if you want.

To surmise my points, solid relationships aren't as easy to get as one night stands. They aren't comparable in any way. The reason I use prostitution is for an allegory, not as a direct comparison. My point being, getting any number of people to sleep with you isn't a very solid goal. For you, sure. If you're happy with it, I'm not judging. But a girlfriend is not a one night stand, it's not just another number. It's an important, spiritual (figuratively speaking) and serious bond.

When I say that you can't make yourself attractive, well sure you can within reason. That isn't going to let you compete with the 6' whatever guy with the sparkling blue eyes and high cheekbones. It won't happen, you can't compete in that regard and you certainly can't change yourself to match up. Some women's standards are that high. Even if they weren't, some things can't be changed.

With regards to numbers, that's still not really good evidence for anything. Do you know what monogamy is? The reason I haven't been with hundreds of people is because I've been in a committed relationship for almost three years now. One is enough for me, it works. I'm not saying a hundred is a bad thing but it's not everybody's goal like you pass it off to be. If you let me know what your end goal is, I'll happily try to enumerate that for you. As it stands, your argument still isn't convincing for me (in a monogamous, stable and long term relationship) compared to you (in numerous, presumably very short term and, in my opinion, fruitless encounters).

What I wonder is, how would you know that I'm not more successful? How do you know that this one relationship isn't better than your hundreds? This is why numbering encounters doesn't help. Quantifying it directly doesn't work. In my opinion, my method works better than yours because I found somebody I may spend the rest of my life with. Not to sound too abrasive, but you don't have that. In my eyes, that's already a one up.

Saying you've found 500 somebodies isn't good for me. It isn't good for the people on here looking for serious advice on how to find genuine relationships. I'm not saying your life isn't good, it certainly sounds like a lot of fun, but you have to ask yourself; does it really work for lifetime partners? Because I'm not sure it does.

to each their own, some are content with nightly novel orgasms with lotsa different folks, some want something deeper. shallow and deep, each to their own kind.

You're either missing my point entirely, or choosing to ignore it.

Long term relationships all start with a first date. Some here have Zero ability to get a first date/meeting someone/hookup/anything at all. I can do that with relative ease. My purposes are sexual, but the communication required to set something like that up is a transferable skill and could be utilized to arrange coffee/movie dates just the same. Those who have Zero ability to get themselves a date could stand to learn a lot from those who are able to communicate with others and arrange themselves first dates/hookups/whatever with relative ease. That's all I'm saying. Whether their goal is a hookup or to find The One is irrelevant. The communication process for either is very similar.

WP playing sillybuggers problem solved, my reply is below, no longer able to delete this though.

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No, you are missing the point. I am physically attractive enough (and as you know most men are not very

discriminating) that all I would need to do is go out wearing a revealing top to a pub, smile a lot, and wait to

be picked up. I could do that every night and I could pull every night, if all I wanted was sex and a friendly chat

with someone who I actually have nothing in common with and who boars me s**tless. This is not so for straight

males but even if they got themselves up to an attractiveness level (assuming they are not already there) where

this did happen occasionally it wouldn't stop them putting their foot in their mouths well ahead of getting a

relationship out of it. I'm not knocking making the best of yourself physically and mentally (I will be checking

out the book now that you have finally given me something concrete to look at instead of just wittering on) but

while it makes you feel better about yourself (I have done it) it doesn't get you a relationship just by making

yourself shagable.

What would a "participation trophy" wife look like?

I never expected a woman to fix those things for me. However I do know from personal experience that having a girlfriend makes those things alot easier for me to deal with mentally/accept. I have found 3 girls/women who liked me despite those things but they were defiantly in the minority & special cases. I was doing my very best to work on those things but it's extremely difficult when your born with lots of physical & mental disabilities & are stuck living with your parents in a rural area unable to drive & no public transportation available because you cant afford to move & have no resources available to help other than SSI, Social Security Disability, Medicaid, & Medicare. I was very trapped by circumstances I was born into.

"The Complete Guide to Asperger's Syndrome"?

It's a great book if you've never read it. Very valuable. However, it has nothing to do with a dietary/intestinal treatment protocol - that I've shared here on WP. Dr. Tony Attwood's "complete," guide is not so complete without a chapter on treatments. IMO. But it's still a good book well worth reading if you've never read it - just to be more self aware of your own traits and symptoms.

Did you have internet access? If so, you had all the world's knowledge available to you.

I did which is how I met those girls

Which is great! But it’s also how you could have learned to ever better manage your physical & mental disabilities vs simply allow them to run their course and influence your well being. IMO YMMV.

I agree, I just think going about it in different ways is the way these things often work.

That's the long and short of it for me, and there's nothing wrong with either. All I'm trying to say is that the method for one may not work in the same way for the other.

Except there are tried, tested, and true ways to make oneself more attractive or to communicate with people & arrange a date. There’s no need to reinvent the wheel when there’s a very simple process that can be followed. IMO YMMV.

No, he isn't. You are the one that is missing the point.



No, they don't. I've been in two relationships, and none of them started with dating. However, the most important point is that most long-term relationships don't start with sex or a one-night-stand. If you start it shallow, you cannot turn it deep. As simple as that.



Completely wrong. A natural ND relationship doesn't start with anything even similar to dating. If you are ND and want a soulmate, I think you have to start nonverbally, and definitely without having sexual intercourse.

I'm only posting the last quote cuz the screwy capita won't let it go through.

Oh I get what you mean now. I did use the net to try & work on myself thou I worked on some issues a lot more than others.