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01 Mar 2020, 8:44 pm

TBH I'm probably too bored & cranky today to fully understand how much vs. how little reciprocity in comfortable for NTs, per the amount of contact I have with anyone I suppose.

It's like as soon as I pick up on those patterns I've probably been written off already. :oops:


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01 Mar 2020, 9:08 pm

I don't know that anyone's ever seen me as trading in the social graces you described above.


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02 Mar 2020, 5:57 pm

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I don't know that anyone's ever seen me as trading in the social graces you described above.


It's difficult to ascertain and I'm certain if it did happen, you may not have noticed it unless you were paying attention. That's why I've always said I'm horrible at small talk but I didn't know it was because the other person often experienced a conversation with me as talking to a wall, probably. Then I had to learn how to hold a conversation once I figured that out. It's just baby steps, one small goal at a time that builds up to a larger one.


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03 Mar 2020, 12:20 am

i've always been better at small talk than big talk.



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03 Mar 2020, 1:09 am

*** overthinking ***

I should really get back to this tomorrow. I can't sleep & I need to, I have a new work computer to rig up when the gear arrives & I have all kinds of synchronization to do about the work I just started, which is only some random percentage of my job as presently directed by no one in particular.

I think the biggest problem yet in my love life is corporations taking its' place. 8O That was fast.


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04 Mar 2020, 7:26 pm

martianprincess wrote:
cberg wrote:
I don't know that anyone's ever seen me as trading in the social graces you described above.


It's difficult to ascertain and I'm certain if it did happen, you may not have noticed it unless you were paying attention. That's why I've always said I'm horrible at small talk but I didn't know it was because the other person often experienced a conversation with me as talking to a wall, probably. Then I had to learn how to hold a conversation once I figured that out. It's just baby steps, one small goal at a time that builds up to a larger one.


I think I can mainly only hold detailed, rambling conversations on tricky subjects. Interpersonal stuff eludes me & I get lost in analogies or feel too shy to say much. Mainly I have a hard time finding the right times & places for any discussions like this.

It's a good feeling in general to remember I can do any of this at all actually. The trouble is that I'm impatient with myself.


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08 Mar 2020, 10:50 pm

It's hard not to think about how much time I spend alone. All I can do about the isolation of the only condition I can live under is to ramble about it & hope I'll someday get the right idea.

Everything about my past sets me up for failure.

I don't know if I'll ever lose this feeling of having nowhere to go.


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08 Mar 2020, 11:25 pm

it took me way too long to figure out that "having nowhere to go" meant that i already was where i'm supposed to be. :idea:



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08 Mar 2020, 11:42 pm

To quote System of a Down, "Every time I try to go where I really want to be, it's already where I am..."

argh wtf


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08 Mar 2020, 11:57 pm

took me decades to make sense of and come to an understanding about why i'm in the place i am at. i now see the reasons for it all.



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09 Mar 2020, 12:14 am

I don't really see things as being immutably as they're meant to be is the catch.


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09 Mar 2020, 12:17 am

when i was young, neither did i.



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09 Mar 2020, 12:24 am

I probably have too many such reasons. :(


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09 Mar 2020, 12:29 am

as did i, but as i grew older they gradually faded away.



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09 Mar 2020, 1:12 am

It feels immutable.


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09 Mar 2020, 1:39 am

basically it is, it is one's handling of it that changes through life.