Haliphron wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
It's amazing how girls on this board usually start describing in refined detail what physical traits in males they like and what they don't like , listing what are the big yes yes and the big no nos , and list physical conditions in order to accept the guy (ie. must not be more than mindly overweight , must be lightly-muscled build , must be same height and taller...) ....
and all of the sudden, at the end of the post they conclude with a personality cliche' statement such as "personality is far more important than all his...."
I mean, c'mon...
Well I DO think that women are more interested in a man's
social status and
wealth than his looks. But when women say "personality" I honestly DO believe that there are certain personality traits and abilities that women are wired to find attractive-such as high
social intelligence/good social skills AND artistic/musical talent. There are many ugly guys who get some pretty hawt chicks by either playing in a rock band or being the life of the party

. But in the eyes of women, good looks and even big muscles cant compensate for being socially clumsy and/or awkward. The ONLY think that about a mans appearance that women consistently judge seems to be
height. Most women find height attractive and obesity actively UNattractive.
Right, I don't want to be offensive here, but all of these things are either 1) primate status correlates or 2) primate mating displays. It is grotesquely simple to assume that women would go only for looks (even by my simple primate model), when genetic fitness has
many more correlates in primate society, particular when it comes to males. Good example was I think in Jane Goodall's research; in ape societies higher ranking males always get the most action simply by the way they're structured; among chimps, for example, one means of establishing dominance is displays. There was a small low ranking chimp who managed to learn to use empty cans he raided from their camps in his displays, and this propelled him up the status ladder. I mean, there's a lot of nuance here that a "looks" only model simply can't capture and makes no sense when compared with our ape relatives.
I mean, the most "successful" guy I know is decidedly unimpressive in terms of body, or talents, but he *just happens* to be a social hyper-savant.
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