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27 Dec 2018, 8:11 pm

That's correct. Goldfish is 35 years old.



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27 Dec 2018, 9:33 pm

I'm not trying to imply that all women are picky about men's physique and income. But all the ones who aren't taken, because they had nothing stopping them from finding men they're attracted to years ago.

As for me, I could never get a decent job because I'm disabled and I have no marketable skills. It's understandable that women require a man with the financial stability to support her and her children. I can't fault them for that. I'm just saying nobody will ever want me because I'm unable to provide.



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27 Dec 2018, 11:00 pm

Similarly ^



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28 Dec 2018, 3:57 am

magnetowasright wrote:
I'm not trying to imply that all women are picky about men's physique and income. But all the ones who aren't taken, because they had nothing stopping them from finding men they're attracted to years ago.
Yes I could have found a man years ago if all I wanted was sex and it didn't matter if a few months into the relationship he dumps me because I'm weird. And then what? the same thing over and and over. I am looking for

someone who likes the stuff about me that annoys the s**t out of everyone else but when people first get together

they put on an act so how do I know whether they like those things about me or not?



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28 Dec 2018, 4:04 am

magnetowasright wrote:
I'm not trying to imply that all women are picky about men's physique and income. But all the ones who aren't taken, because they had nothing stopping them from finding men they're attracted to years ago.

As for me, I could never get a decent job because I'm disabled and I have no marketable skills. It's understandable that women require a man with the financial stability to support her and her children. I can't fault them for that. I'm just saying nobody will ever want me because I'm unable to provide.

And another thing, you do not get to tell me my problems are not real just because you don't understand them.

How dare you tell me I'm only single because I'm too picky over men's looks and income. The last guy I turned

down is nice looking, he also has a history of violence. The one before was thirty, YES THIRTY years older than

me and MARRIED and RICH. If that's your idea of fussy, I'll stay fussy thank you very much.



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28 Dec 2018, 4:35 am

^ You're fluffy, not fussy.



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28 Dec 2018, 8:27 am

Prometheus18 wrote:
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Fnord is welcome to share his opinion and experience, as we all are.
The fact a woman wrote that article doesn't change my opinion at all. It's rhetoric designed to promote commercialism.

It's very sad that women would promote this propaganda to younger women who might buy into the BS.

I've never even heard of a six hundred horsepower car and I don't know any women who talk about height, abs or package size. Size doesn't equal performance. Likewise, income isn't as important as a person's spending habits. I'd rather be with a modest spender with lower income than a rich person with a drug habit or gambling addiction who wants a six hundred horsepower car or a gym membership (gag me now).



Saying stuff such as “no one is underpaid but only people living beyond their means” is an oral excrement, it is not wisdom and it not even true for countless of young men.
Opinions are welcome, and so my opinion on a such opinion.

They don’t know our stories and how really underpaid we are.

Ok I will tell my story to prove how really underpaid I am and i know exactly by how much: the CFO has whistleblown me the allocated budget (from investors) number for my salary, all of the millennial employees are being underpaid.
The only ones who are not being so are the seniors, who do more talk than work.
To be exact, my salary should be $5000 monthly for my position, I was being paid half of that. He told me I should ask for more without telling what he revealed to me, I did and and it was a dire negotiation, the CEO went telling me how valuable I am and such poetry and how i saved the company from bankruptcy (another long story) ...bla bla, but at the end he only accepted to raise it by $300, plus an overtime formula which I know still out of my allocated budgeted sum.

The CFO is a senior guy himself but he’s a Christian pious man who hates wrongdoings, and always gets in conflict with the CEO, the latter wants to get rid of him but he just holds too much power to be kicked (he oversees 3 of his companies).

So yeah, I am being underpaid by 56%, to put bluntly, I am being stolen 56% of my pay everyday. I am sure I am not the only case in the world.

But owners know that more than 70% of population gets paid less than 800 monthly and of the high unemployment rate, so they fully exploit us.


I completely agree with cberg's point about millennials' being underpaid, but I don't think anyone can complain about ONLY being paid $2500 dollars a month - that's damned good money by any standard, even in the US or UK, but especially in the Middle East.



I am still scratching my head over this one, because I was sure there's enormous differences in average income between countries (and even between Middle Eastern countries, but I won't go into that). https://www.thebalancecareers.com/avera ... rs-2060808

According to the above source (and most sources I looked into), the average yearly income in the US for the advanced degree (I have a Master's degree + Diploma , and I speak 3 languages) is around $77,000 , that's around $6400+ monthly.

So how comes mine is good by US standard? Are all the sources wrong? My income is closer to the No High school degree in the US.

Now I am more certain that IsabellaLinton was a brain surgeon, or a CEO - not even nuclear physics make 200k$.



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28 Dec 2018, 8:37 am

fluffysaurus wrote:
magnetowasright wrote:
I'm not trying to imply that all women are picky about men's physique and income. But all the ones who aren't taken, because they had nothing stopping them from finding men they're attracted to years ago.

As for me, I could never get a decent job because I'm disabled and I have no marketable skills. It's understandable that women require a man with the financial stability to support her and her children. I can't fault them for that. I'm just saying nobody will ever want me because I'm unable to provide.

And another thing, you do not get to tell me my problems are not real just because you don't understand them.

How dare you tell me I'm only single because I'm too picky over men's looks and income. The last guy I turned

down is nice looking, he also has a history of violence. The one before was thirty, YES THIRTY years older than

me and MARRIED and RICH. If that's your idea of fussy, I'll stay fussy thank you very much.


And when did I ever say your problems aren't real? Please quote the text.

Or maybe stop putting words in my mouth.



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28 Dec 2018, 8:45 am

Boo’s income is below the US average for experienced programmers. But probably about average for an experienced support staff person in an urban area like NYC.

It’s very high for Beirut.

He makes a little more than me. I’m about average. I have a Bachelors.



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28 Dec 2018, 8:54 am

It’s much, much higher than the average for someone with only a high school diploma in the US.



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28 Dec 2018, 8:57 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
It’s much, much higher than the average for someone with only a high school diploma in the US.


So what's the most accurate source on that? Because....


Quote:
Average Salary Based on Education
Workers age 25 and over without a high school degree had median annual earnings of $27,612 at the end of 2017 compared with $37,128 for high school graduates without a college degree. College graduates with at least a bachelor's degree earned $66,456 annually.



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28 Dec 2018, 9:00 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Boo’s income is below the US average for experienced programmers. But probably about average for an experienced support staff person in an urban area like NYC.

It’s very high for Beirut.
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I never tell the ladies about it though (irl) , it's how I test them :farao: - even my gf doesn't know how much is my income (well, she never asked).



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28 Dec 2018, 9:31 am

The figures you quoted were for GROSS, before-taxes income. You quoted NET, after-taxes income for yourself.

Many people NET below $1500 a month in the USA. A NET income of $3000 a month is considered a very decent income in most places in the USA. I net about $2500 a month, while grossing $4500.



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28 Dec 2018, 9:47 am

$25,000 gross is considered a low yearly income in the USA.



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28 Dec 2018, 9:51 am

Ouch, you pay 44% tax??



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28 Dec 2018, 9:55 am

Most people pay at least 25% tax on their income. FICA, State, local, and other taxes.

The higher the income, the more percentage tax.

More than usual is taken out of my check because of my pension.