Bigotry against involuntarily celibate men

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No one here doesn’t want anyone to get better. No one here doesn’t want anyone to get laid. No one here doesn’t want anyone to have a relationship.

The only person responsible for someone improving is themselves. If they do not get better, it’s due to their own lack of action taken to improve themselves & in turn their attractiveness to others.

I’ve seen this exact same advice posted countless times over the last 6 years or so, and the exact same people ignoring said advice, not taking personal responsibility for themselves not action towards improvement, and making the same complaints that nothing has improved. Wow, shocking.. as they say; doing the exact same thing and expecting different results is the very definition of insanity.

Contrary to what my detractor is swearing up and down about, I have indeed been told by some they don't want me to have a relationship. It's ok for them to want to be in a relationship but if I express the same desire, I have a fight on my hands. One of them is upset she can't kiss every boy on the planet but has told me I need to accept that I'll never have a relationship just because she says so.

Another detractor actually told me to seek hook ups instead of dates until I am "fixed". If you can't even get a f*****g simple coffee date, how can you expect to ever have a hook up? The only way to enter the "sex scene" in my area is to either be a redneck, a Baptist, or a ghetto hip-hopper thug so I would have to go against my values.

Well, out of all those options I think the ghetto hip hopper sounds the most fun. Time to get some baggy jeans.

...I'm joking.

For a reminder, here is the first part of magneto's OP with bolded point below:

The issue here sounds like it has more to do with personal bias and prejudice than semantics.

Yes, his bias was that those articles he read were talking about incels who visit those online communities that are full of misogyny, and he read that as ALL SINGLE MEN ARE MISOGYNISTS because of his bias and paranoia. The articles about incels weren't about him, but he read them that way because he needed someone to rage at and someone to blame for his unhappiness and that target ended up being people who write articles about the online incel communities that promote rape and violence. He's obviously depressed and suicidal and needed to feel targeted so he had justification for those feelings other than just being mentally ill--"sure i'm depressed but it's because women are out to get me and label me a misogynist", that's the reasoning. That way they can avoid getting help for their mental health issues because they have convinced themselves that the source of their illness is outside of themselves and beyond their control, when really it's their own depressed mind lying to them and it is within their control to get help for it.

It's a very common pattern I've seen among incels, and even some of the single guys here--they need to place the source of their mental illness somewhere external, "I'm depressed because women won't date me, not because I'm genetically predisposed to it." It's just another way of shifting blame and avoiding personal responsibility.

I think you're right. I performed a few searches of this website, and found not even one single instance that would contradict your claims.

Of course, it's entirely possible that I missed them (if they exist), since this website uses out-dated software that does not always respond well to googlemancy.

The hip-hoppers I've encountered called me "fa***t" and "Satan worshipper" (Anyone who likes heavy metal is often assumed to worship Satan in the Bible Belt). They were no different than the rednecks and general Bible Belters.

There are other things besides the girlfriend issue that make me depressed. I will never get to play in a band, I don't have any music of my own written, I don't have a good drawing talent despite how I used to draw like crazy but would never get better, I have terrible writer's block when it comes to writing fiction, and I don't have a college degree nor a career.

I doubt that you were “uglier than Quasimodo.” Are you a person who is under five feet tall, a hunchback, and has other unusually “ugly” features?

I don’t like the PUA thing....I don’t feel I would have attained any sort of success with it, anyway—even if it yields temporary success with others. Most women laugh at that sort of thing.

It can difficult to socialise as a lone wolf in a group of people who know each other, or really in any group with which you've not sufficiently established rapport. I'd suggest checking out a channel that I recently found on YouTube called The Charisma Matrix. The guy breaks down nuances of social interactions and offers tips and such.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like the PUA and Red Pill approach involves contorting yourself into something women will find appealing, and it assumes that women are irrational and can only be manipulated into relationships.

It’s contorting yourself into something which most women find UNappealing.

Social tactics are NOT industrial software standards. Not everyone needs to 'leverage' women to enjoy their presence.

That's exactly what it is, it's a textbook for How to Become an Emotional Abuser and Believe All Women are Stupid Fuckdolls at the Same Time.

I'm pretty sure that's why Alex doesn't want it on his site.

Why hasn't this thread been locked yet?

That is a very good question.

I'm a guy. Lock this for crying out loud.