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ToadOfSteel
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02 Apr 2010, 9:24 am

Janissy wrote:
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i want to time travel back to the fiftys. women back then were so much easier to deal with. pre womens lib. they understood looking femine isnt necessiarly a bad thing. none of this im busy crap at least they were honest


What absolute nonsense. Ask your grandparents. The "I'm busy" code (and all other codes) pre-dates women's lib and actually was used more extensively back then. Because women were required to be "feminine", they had to be a lot more careful to never come acrosss as (female dog) which means they often had to be less honest. My mother, who dated during the 50's and used these codes out of necessity as did all girls, often told me I had it so much easier dating in the 80's. More honesty.


Not to mention that if you wanted to date women in the 50s, you had to be even more manly than you're expected to be today...

I would even go further to say that the second-wave feminism in the 60s was just as beneficial for men as it was for women, as many of the "freedoms" won by women then were removal of restrictions that honestly shouldn't have been in place to begin with, such as inequalities in employment, education, along with stopping the sexism that ran rampant in the 50s. Also it was around this time (as well as into the 70s) that safe abortion practices and a wider range of contraceptives started coming into existence, allowing women to be as sexual as they wanted to without having to worry about unwanted children. The only men that lost out on women's lib in the 60s were the men that sought to be dominating and controlling of a woman's life. And honestly, those men are dicks...



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02 Apr 2010, 9:30 am

Men use his excuse. Women use this excuse. Boys use this excuse. Girls use this excuse. It is considered a "gentle" way to say no. I agree that it would be easier if they said they aren't interested, and maybe they aren't sure if they are or not. My life is quite busy most times. When guys would ask me out, a lot of times I would say I was busy-- because I was. But let me tell you-- when that guy came along that I was really interested in, I found the time.

I agree with Hector. If someone is interested, they make time. It has absolutely nothing to do with women's lib :roll:



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02 Apr 2010, 8:01 pm

MonicaL wrote:
when people say they are busy, and they go online posting stuff, it means that they don't want to talk to you and they are lying. It hurts it know


Oh yes, does it ever.

MichelleRM78 wrote:
If someone is interested, they make time.


Exactly.



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03 Apr 2010, 11:28 pm

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I've asked girls out and they've said "I'm busy." Later I learned that they really mean "I'm not interested." I still had trouble accepting that. Because I have Asperger's, I presume that people mean what they say. Has anyone else had this problem in their dating lives?


Yes.

The best way to figure out if she's really busy is to push a little (and hope) you get a response like "I'm busy.... but I'm available in a week".

How you get that second portion is tricky. Could be something as simple as asking "How about next week" or "call me when you get a chance" and leave it at that.



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06 Apr 2010, 12:14 am

I've never had to tell anyone that I was busy. :wink: