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01 Jul 2015, 9:12 am

In my experience, most women like to be told that they "look pretty today."

They also like guys to hold doors for them--though some, especially those who are younger, seem somewhat befuddled.

The older the woman, the more she likes to have her hand kissed.



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01 Jul 2015, 10:18 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
In my experience, most women like to be told that they "look pretty today."

They also like guys to hold doors for them--though some, especially those who are younger, seem somewhat befuddled.

The older the woman, the more she likes to have her hand kissed.


I suspect these things depend on the prevailing local culture. My first wife (mainstream NT, English) was quite offended when a woman told her she was looking very pretty - "of all the condescending, patronising.......! !" she said to me later. Kissing hands, I have no direct evidence, but I think some women could find that creepy. I've had the mickey taken out of me for holding doors open for women, when it's been fairly clear that it did no practical good. I guess the sexual subtext was too obvious. These days, as a happily partnered and faithful man, I don't do it, except when it's of practical value, like when somebody (male or female) has their hands full.

I guess the whole idea of partnered people flirting with others is also a matter of cultural norms and personal values. If it's not too off-topic, what do other Aspies see as acceptable / unacceptable? I've seen a very wide range of attitudes to it in the wide world, the most remarkable being from a lady in a poly relationship who was vexed when her hubbie told their female solicitor that she was wearing a very nice dress.



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01 Jul 2015, 10:35 am

In NYC, what you describe exists--but only amongst people who think they are "above" everybody else.

Most young woman will give you a bemused look if you hold a door for her--some will actually appreciate it.

A person older than about 40 will, invariably, appreciate the gesture.

Yes, there are some women who don't like their hands kissed--especially younger ones.

Older women are what I would call 'pleasantly delighted" if a man kisses her hand.



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01 Jul 2015, 4:38 pm

Why neurodiverse guys don't compliment? That's because compliments are NT males game playing. Unlike what is typically said about compliments, they are all fake and games, and thus you shouldn't bother trying to learn it (because you will come out as fake).



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01 Jul 2015, 5:02 pm

I'm a neurodiverse guy, and I compliment.

I compliment because I feel inspired to compliment.



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01 Jul 2015, 5:04 pm

I learned early on that residents of the creepzone compliment others at their own peril, because it usually will be taken the wrong way.



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01 Jul 2015, 5:05 pm

Most people aren't on the "creepzone."

You just have to know WHEN to compliment somebody.

You don't just go up to a woman on the train and compliment her on her body, say.



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01 Jul 2015, 5:09 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Most people aren't on the "creepzone." You just have to know WHEN to compliment somebody.
You don't just go up to a woman on the train and compliment her on her body, say.

sorry KK, I was just referring to my own situation.



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01 Jul 2015, 5:33 pm

But you're a cool guy.

These chicks who put you in the "creepzone" got it all wrong!



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01 Jul 2015, 5:38 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
But you're a cool guy. These chicks who put you in the "creepzone" got it all wrong!

:D thank you KK! :heart: you're the cool of cool 8)



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02 Jul 2015, 2:22 am

auntblabby wrote:
I learned early on that residents of the creepzone compliment others at their own peril, because it usually will be taken the wrong way.


have to agree , and creepzone is really just ugly zone. which really means they think you are below them so how day you talk to them.



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02 Jul 2015, 2:43 am

sly279 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
I learned early on that residents of the creepzone compliment others at their own peril, because it usually will be taken the wrong way.


have to agree , and creepzone is really just ugly zone. which really means they think you are below them so how dare you talk to them.

I can sorta dig how they might be feeling Darwinian pressures to not waste their time on genetically mediocre specimens such as myself in favor of pairing their genes with superior specimens, so the ruder ones among them might forget their manners and say mean things to me in the process of getting me the hell away from them.



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02 Jul 2015, 3:02 am

If you compliment a girl, she will consider you needy and clingy.


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02 Jul 2015, 4:35 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I'm a neurodiverse guy, and I compliment.


I don't compliment anybody, because it is creepy and disgusting to try to get somebody to like you with flattery.

kraftiekortie wrote:
I compliment because I feel inspired to compliment.


I only say sincere things, and I don't play the compliment game. Not my style.



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02 Jul 2015, 2:44 pm

My compliments are sincere.

Without compliments, this would be a cold, cruel world.



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02 Jul 2015, 2:55 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
My compliments are sincere.

Without compliments, this would be a cold, cruel world.

for a lot of us [the majority of the world's population] it IS and has been for a long time, a cold and cruel world.