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01 Jun 2010, 8:25 am

I think it would be a stereotype if I thought opposite.


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01 Jun 2010, 8:29 am

Humans (as a species) do need sex. Without it, our species wouldn't survive and you would not be here. Ergo, humans need sex.

Do you, as a person, need sex? You don't. If you want to be asexual, that's fine.

You're helping this planet be less overcrowded anyway, so that's okay.



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01 Jun 2010, 8:36 am

ari_ wrote:
Humans (as a species) do need sex. Without it, our species wouldn't survive and you would not be here. Ergo, humans need sex.

Do you, as a person, need sex? You don't. If you want to be asexual, that's fine.

You're helping this planet be less overcrowded anyway, so that's okay.


Being asexul is NOT about what I want. It's the way I am. You are rite that humans as a species do need sex to reproduce(unless they use scientific methods like cloning) but some humans as individuals do not


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01 Jun 2010, 8:43 am

I don't believe base instincts will ever change, even if we get advanced technology like cloning.


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01 Jun 2010, 9:00 am

Ferdinand wrote:
I don't believe base instincts will ever change, even if we get advanced technology like cloning.


Agreed, and I personally wouldn't want my genetic line to die out because I refused to have sex.



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01 Jun 2010, 9:05 am

Amber-Miasma wrote:
Ferdinand wrote:
I don't believe base instincts will ever change, even if we get advanced technology like cloning.


Agreed, and I personally wouldn't want my genetic line to die out because I refused to have sex.


There's actually a really good book where people stop having intercourse for reproduction and just for pleasure. It's called 'Brave New World'


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01 Jun 2010, 9:56 am

Ferdinand wrote:
Amber-Miasma wrote:
Ferdinand wrote:
I don't believe base instincts will ever change, even if we get advanced technology like cloning.


Agreed, and I personally wouldn't want my genetic line to die out because I refused to have sex.


There's actually a really good book where people stop having intercourse for reproduction and just for pleasure. It's called 'Brave New World'


I seen one of these old 1980's style Orwellian type films once (it was really bad, I wouldn't recommend it) where people had to connect to each other with this weird machine and they'd "experience" sex but the act of impregnation was carried out externally :S.



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01 Jun 2010, 10:02 am

Sex is pleasurable for me because of the sensory aspect -- touch, smell, taste, sound, sight -- it's all there and focused. It pulls me out of myself. The endorphin release at the end is quite nice, too. :) It leaves me feeling relaxed and energized at the same time. Better than any drug.

That said, yes, there are a few people out there who, for one reason or another, some psychological and some physiological and quite natural to them, don't have the same experience with sex. Is a reproductive drive necessary to the survival of a species? Yes, but individual members may not have that same drive. There's nothing weird about that.



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01 Jun 2010, 12:33 pm

Amber-Miasma wrote:
Ferdinand wrote:
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Ferdinand wrote:
I don't believe base instincts will ever change, even if we get advanced technology like cloning.


Agreed, and I personally wouldn't want my genetic line to die out because I refused to have sex.


There's actually a really good book where people stop having intercourse for reproduction and just for pleasure. It's called 'Brave New World'


I seen one of these old 1980's style Orwellian type films once (it was really bad, I wouldn't recommend it) where people had to connect to each other with this weird machine and they'd "experience" sex but the act of impregnation was carried out externally :S.


Girls don't get pregnant in this book. Reproduction in this case is done via eggs at a factory. It's really cool. I recommend reading the book.


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01 Jun 2010, 4:04 pm

The urge to have sex is powerful for most people especially during and after puberty when the body is full of hormones. Men apparently seem to have a higher sex drive than women. The average man apparently thinks about sex every seven seconds. It is part of our biological programming to have sex, and sex is the only natural way to produce offspring. Having sex for pleasure is probably a misfiring of this biological programming. If something gives you pleasure, you will want to keep doing it over and over again, right? The more you have sex (without contraception or any form of birth control) the more offspring you produce and the higher the probability your genes will survive over future generations. This was particularly vital back hundreds of years ago where most children died so you needed to have a lot of children so your genes would be passed on. Nowadays, the infant mortality in western countries is so low compared to many third world countries that the majority of offspring survive and now not really necessary to produce a lot of offspring. Natural urges such as the desire to have sex, or lust, as we should call it, had been suppressed for many years (probably because of religion and other traditions) and it was only until recently that we have started to embrace it more. The only way you can raise of family of your own is by finding a mate and having sex with him/her to produce offspring, unless you go to a sperm bank or something. If you pass on the genes that creates hormones causing attraction to the opposite sex and wanting to have sex with said opposite sex onto your children and their descendents, the more likely your genes will survive through them.

However, it does appear that many aspies are desexualised, lacking the sexual desires that NT's have. Though of course, if you don't have sex, your genes don't get passed on, including your aspie genes. In fact, you wouldn't even exist if your parents hadn't had sex and their gametes had fused to create you, and you quite possibly inherited the aspie gene from one of them. However, I wonder if the lack of sex drive in aspies has to do with the theory of group selection? Group selection suggests that when an organism, especially one of a social species, feels that they are not needed by the group (in this case the NT's as they're the majority) their biological programming goes into self-destruct mode. In other words, when aspies feel dejected because they feel they're not needed by the group (and let's face it, we aspies tend to go through it a lot more) we become depressed, we lose self-confidence and self-esteem, we lose motivation, and this is counterproductive to our survival because we need all those things to succeed. We become suicidal and of course we lose our sex drive so our genes won't get passed on. Sounds sort've like a self-genocide, but of course the aspie genes are recessive in some of the NT population and one day will become dominant in their offspring, so the aspie genes have not died out because of that. I know some aspies might say they're not depressed and yet they have no sex drive (and this might be to do with them not being able to relate to others), and there might be another explanation for this, but this one also seems to fit. It may be a politically incorrect, and do I endorse that sort of thing? No, but it's a logical explanation.

However, if we aspies felt accepted by society, I'm sure these counterproductive traits would start to dissappear (depression, suicide ect) and many aspies would then be able to fulfill their talents.



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01 Jun 2010, 4:55 pm

No sex=end of humanity. It's not a dirty thing or something to be ahsamed of.
Of course there are asexual people but they are a small minority and so don't have any effect on the overall population carrying on. So because of that I don't have a problem with people not wanting sex. I personally do.


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01 Jun 2010, 8:34 pm

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Hey WhoamI that makes alot of sense mundanely and by science, but it is possible the actual question within the question is now lost in the universe .. the original meaning or question i had i think is now lost :! :)

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It feels good because of the large concentration of nerve endings in the genitals. It's needed for the survival of the species, so it makes sense to have people really, really like it.


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01 Jun 2010, 8:35 pm

Ferdinand wrote:
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As humans, we need sex. I find it distressing how it is hidden and suppressed.


Agreed. Although I object to the way it is "marketed" by the media and how it is shunned as being "evil" and "filthy".


Not by the media per se. It's just schools and old traditions and ways seem backwards in this thought.

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Humans do NOT need sex.


I'm sure sex is an instinctual urge that every human has felt.


NEEDS are things like water, food and oxygen. If you're not going to die as a direct result of not having it, it's a want, no matter how strongly you might want it. :roll:


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03 Jun 2010, 4:08 am

The species would die out if nobody wanted sex. Sex also feels good because of the large amount of nerve endings in the genitals.