02 Jun 2010, 8:30 pm
nick007 wrote:
What does "Seduce" mean 
For some rezone my mind processes that word to mean something similar to a form of manipulation. Does it involve wearing clothing I usually don't wear, doing things I normally don't do, & saying things I do not believe 
For some rezone my mind processes that word to mean something similar to a form of manipulation. Does it involve wearing clothing I usually don't wear, doing things I normally don't do, & saying things I do not believe So what if it is manipulation? NTs do it all the time. The entire NT world is built upon deception.
As for the PUA trainers, many of them are more versed in seducing men into giving them money as opposed to seducing women in bed.
When I briefly wanted to give up escorts, I called one of those companies and the guy on the other end of the line didn't know what to do with me since I am not part of the script he is expecting.
02 Jun 2010, 8:35 pm
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ToadOfSteel wrote:
nick007 wrote:
What does "Seduce" mean For some rezone my mind processes that word to mean something similar to a form of manipulation.
For some rezone my mind processes that word to mean something similar to a form of manipulation.That's precisely what it means: in this case, the seducer is manipulating someone for the purposes of having sex. In some cases, others will seduce for power or money. It really does just boil down to manipulation...
I don't see using seduction skills to get a potential partner intrested in you as any more manipulative than using other social skills to get a potential friend intrested in you
It all comes down to responsability, the technuiqes are not evil themselves. If you are not actually interested in the person you are seducing and only doing it for personaly gain you are an ass-hole. But the same goes for friendships, if you are not actually interested in the person you are befriending, but using friendship only for personal gain you are also an ass-hole.
Even then it's not evil if the intent for personal gain is mutual and understood. I had a couple of friends in high school where we didn't give a damn about each other except that we both had something the other wanted, and we both knew it and were okay with that. He had the newer video game systems and I had fun board games / card games / ideas for my own card games. Other than that, we probably would've avoided each other.
The same principle goes for two people who just want to get off for the night shacking up for a one-night stand. It's their business. I generally apply the same logic to prostitution, or I would, if not for the spreading of disease it permits. Although, if it were legal, it could be regulated in ways that could easily greatly reduce those effects.... =/
That being said, while I will defend this behavior in principle, it also unsettles me greatly, and tends to lend to me disliking the person whom engages in it, in one of those "I don't like you for these things you do that aren't really wrong but just bug me a lot" kind of ways. xP
02 Jun 2010, 11:26 pm
03 Jun 2010, 12:10 am
i find the video hilarious. "their in the business of comedy... not titilation"
Freak_Contagion wrote:
A good number of the people in some contexts (e.g. sitting around at a bar, esp. alone, with wandering eyes and flirtatious body language, which is easy enough to pick up on if you look) are just looking for a quick lay. If you can pick those people out well enough, this pretty well describes most of the rest of the endeavor:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBVuAGFcGKY[/youtube]
I believe I actually saw that first somewhere else in this forum, but it's still very appropriate. xP
Although, I doubt I would ever engage in this. I'd be altogether too uncomfortable doing that kind of thing with a total stranger.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBVuAGFcGKY[/youtube]
I believe I actually saw that first somewhere else in this forum, but it's still very appropriate. xP
Although, I doubt I would ever engage in this. I'd be altogether too uncomfortable doing that kind of thing with a total stranger.
03 Jun 2010, 12:14 am
changing89 wrote:
i find the video hilarious. "their in the business of comedy... not titilation"
Freak_Contagion wrote:
A good number of the people in some contexts (e.g. sitting around at a bar, esp. alone, with wandering eyes and flirtatious body language, which is easy enough to pick up on if you look) are just looking for a quick lay. If you can pick those people out well enough, this pretty well describes most of the rest of the endeavor:
[[SNL skit cut for space-efficiency]]
I believe I actually saw that first somewhere else in this forum, but it's still very appropriate. xP
Although, I doubt I would ever engage in this. I'd be altogether too uncomfortable doing that kind of thing with a total stranger.
[[SNL skit cut for space-efficiency]]
I believe I actually saw that first somewhere else in this forum, but it's still very appropriate. xP
Although, I doubt I would ever engage in this. I'd be altogether too uncomfortable doing that kind of thing with a total stranger.
I dearly hope no one would've possibly taken the direct "advice" given in this comedy skit literally. I was making a point through exaggeration, which is well-mixed with comedy. And, as they say, usually a good joke has some truth to it.
03 Jun 2010, 9:30 am
Freak_Contagion wrote:
POWA wrote:
ToadOfSteel wrote:
nick007 wrote:
What does "Seduce" mean For some rezone my mind processes that word to mean something similar to a form of manipulation.
For some rezone my mind processes that word to mean something similar to a form of manipulation.That's precisely what it means: in this case, the seducer is manipulating someone for the purposes of having sex. In some cases, others will seduce for power or money. It really does just boil down to manipulation...
I don't see using seduction skills to get a potential partner intrested in you as any more manipulative than using other social skills to get a potential friend intrested in you
It all comes down to responsability, the technuiqes are not evil themselves. If you are not actually interested in the person you are seducing and only doing it for personaly gain you are an ass-hole. But the same goes for friendships, if you are not actually interested in the person you are befriending, but using friendship only for personal gain you are also an ass-hole.
Even then it's not evil if the intent for personal gain is mutual and understood. I had a couple of friends in high school where we didn't give a damn about each other except that we both had something the other wanted, and we both knew it and were okay with that. He had the newer video game systems and I had fun board games / card games / ideas for my own card games. Other than that, we probably would've avoided each other.
The same principle goes for two people who just want to get off for the night shacking up for a one-night stand. It's their business.
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14 May 2012, 10:23 pm
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GaryUranga wrote:
Knowing tips to "seduce" a woman is as manipulative as it is for women to wear stuffed bras to make their breasts look larger.
then why bump the thread?
Found the post on google, and remembered I had an old account here, sorry
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14 May 2012, 10:24 pm
GaryUranga wrote:
Delphiki wrote:
GaryUranga wrote:
Knowing tips to "seduce" a woman is as manipulative as it is for women to wear stuffed bras to make their breasts look larger.
then why bump the thread?
Found the post on google, and remembered I had an old account here, sorry
no worries
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