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I would gladly support my girlfriend. It's just nice.

Just a note: If he offers to pay, then its his fault if he is complaining afterwards. Some guys also play this game and want the girl to "argue" back. I never play that game, and when i've run into a nice girl who is living in this century, i've accepted 50/50 or separate bills.

I remember one girl that just sat there and didn't say anything when we were finished, fine - i paid, but the date ended early and when i got home i simply clicked "block user" and flipped on CSI: Las Vegas...

That works too. I hate that game, it's so stupid and immature. D:

There is a difference with supporting a girlfriend and a random stranger that you have exchanged a few lines over a web interface/msn/phone. I use it as a test to see what century she is living in, and if it comes up "18-th century or older" then she can take her antiquated opinions and go and f**k herself.

I honestly don't see the problem in being nice to a woman and paying for her. Am I sexist for really wanting to treat a woman like a lady?

IMO yes. There is no real difference between us other that that she has a Vagina. They don't deserve to be treated differently due to their sex.

But... even if it's kind and is in her favor?

If she wants to pay than let her. But if she wants you to pay and you want to then by all means go ahead and pay.

Of course. If she wants to, she can. Is it offensive to offer though?

I don't think it is as I would always offer to pay first,. But if she pulls out a wallet or cash then back off.

I'm a happy stay at home mother. Some of us don't feel traditional roles are sexist.

What people seem to forget is that the feminist movement was about giving us a choice. Before that, women had none. You either got married, and stayed home while popping out children, or you were a failure as a woman.

I have no problem splitting the cost of a date myself.

That men are tasked with asking women out and, previously, paying all the time, stems from our cultural history.

In the past, women were supposed to be modest. A woman who solicited herself to other men was seen as sexually promiscuous and of ill repute.

This concept was put forth by men, not women.

Men were also expected to be assertive and ambitious, in that they were expected to attempt to gain that which they wanted. Boys who were meek were ridiculed by other boys, and even today you see boys and youths who feel they have to prove themselves as worthy of respect among their peers.

Men were expected to pay because it was typically the man who earned more, if the woman even had a job. It was generally expected in the past that women were going to stay home and be responsible for caring for children and their husbands, while a husband was supposed to provide financial support and physical protection. So when women did work, they typically made far less than men, even for the same work, because it was expected of the younger women that they would eventually marry.

So yes, it is sexist in the context of modern times. I don't think a man should always have to pay today, however I do think it is still the man's responsibility to ask a woman out.

The reason is, women take a lot more risk when they approach a man because most men, as men have illustrated in previous posts, would think that a woman who is upfront in approaching them is soliciting sex and would think it's just a casual hookup.

Whereas most men have a significant anxiety about approaching women, and would generally be more likely to harbor more sincere intentions than sex alone if he liked a girl or woman enough to approach her.

Is that why men turn me down all the time? But if I never approached guys, I'd never get a date because guys don't care for girls my size. Dammit, I'm not a whore. D:

lol.. no like your bird example with colours etc. Male peacocks beautiful, females, not so much. The term is 'sexual dimorphism', the differences between sexes of the same species.




First, please don't use that word when referring to me. Call me anything but that one word, I do have ones I prefer though, but unfortunately I do not get my own way.

I will not pay for everything, and I don't expect a male to either. One thing I do that confuses a lot of people it seems, is when I say "hey, do you want to go grab a bit to eat?" and sometimes they respond back say, that they would, but they are in the middle of pay days. This confused me for a lonng time. I could not figure out why my asking them to go eat somewhere would have anything to do with if they had the funds to do it.

Until one day a friend explained it to me. I had asked them the same thing, we went end had a bit to eat, I excused myself, went and paid for the meal, used the 'ladies room' and went back to the table and asked if he was ready to go. He said yes, as soon as he paid the bill. I told him I already had and included the tip, but he could leave more for the waitress if he wanted to.

The look on his face was .. odd.. he could not understand why I had paid for the meal. I could not understand why he was confused by my doing so.

My logic is, if I ask someone out to eat or do anything, I pay for it. Same if they do it, they pay for it.
If we are already out doing something, like sight seeing or what ever.. and we both decide we are hungry and food was not in our plans, we pay for our own meal. Or if one says hey I have tickets to such and such want to go? then the other pays for the meal - or booze at such and such..

How and why going to eat became so friggen confusing and a source of arguing makes no sense to me.

It does not matter if a woman approaches a man, or if a man approaches a woman, the desire for a relationship is based on the two individuals, not how they meet.

Men should pay for the date because they make more money than women. I am a proud chauvinist and would be insulted if a woman insisted on paying for anything on a date. The only reason I can see the woman paying is if she is dating someone "below herself".

Damn it... I hate when I open a reply window and get called away and half a million responses happen in that time frame..

Slow down people I have to catch up now and I type insanely slowwww-