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Do you feel sympathetic for somebody who can not have sex?
Yes - and I am a man 51%  51%  [ 23 ]
No - and I am a man 11%  11%  [ 5 ]
Yes - and I am a woman 16%  16%  [ 7 ]
No - and I am a woman 22%  22%  [ 10 ]
Total votes : 45

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14 Sep 2010, 1:45 pm

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menintights wrote:
Not at all. :D

Sex is a privilege, not a right. If you can't get any, then you probably don't deserve any. And for all the emphasis on sex, it also isn't a necessity for survival. All these people who are always whining about being the last virgin on earth need to quit treating it as such.


Have to disagree there.

There are kind, upright, decent people who can't get any due to lacking social skills or some other problem.


I would have to agree with you on your disagreement. What is your answer though to the poll question and why?



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14 Sep 2010, 2:01 pm

JohnisBlind wrote:
You believe that the ability to get what you want makes a person a better person?


Define "better person"

My definition was better meaning more successful. And yes, I believe someone who can complete a task with greater effect, efficientcy, and ease to be better at it that someone else. Do you better yourself by learning more and gaining experience or not?

I do have sympathy for people with shortcomings beyond thier control. However, this sympathy quickly disappears if they believe it's the world that should change instead of themselves.



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14 Sep 2010, 2:05 pm

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I actually chose to be asexual because of my belief that there are too many people.


May I ask you politely to please not refer to yourself as asexual? Asexuality is not a choice, it is a lack of sexual attraction to either gender. I and others who were born asexual constantly have to battle misconceptions, and it would help if our sexual allies used correct terminology. I think "celibate" would be more appropriate here.


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14 Sep 2010, 2:08 pm

I honestly don't feel any more sympathy for someone who "can't" have sex than for anyone else who doesn't get to do something they enjoy very often or at all, whether that be kayaking, playing chess, taking time to smell the roses, etc. It's not a physiological need, as someone else pointed out.


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14 Sep 2010, 2:09 pm

It would depend on the person and it would depend on the reason.



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14 Sep 2010, 2:17 pm

Lene wrote:
It would depend on the person and it would depend on the reason.


Give circumstances that would allow you to feel sympathetic and others that wouldn't. Thank you.



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14 Sep 2010, 2:20 pm

Please?


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14 Sep 2010, 2:21 pm

Whoa, JohnisBlind, I'm very confused! How do you read this:

menintights wrote:
Not at all. :D

Sex is a privilege, not a right. If you can't get any, then you probably don't deserve any. And for all the emphasis on sex, it also isn't a necessity for survival. All these people who are always whining about being the last virgin on earth need to quit treating it as such.


and conclude this:

JohnisBlind wrote:
Do you realize how you just implied that all the men and women on this board who do not experience sex are worthless? Do you realize how hurtful the comment you just made was to me and to other people?


?

Your reaction seems really out of left field. You've applied your own conceptions about "worth" as regards sex/sexual experience to what menintights said.



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14 Sep 2010, 2:25 pm

mv wrote:
Whoa, JohnisBlind, I'm very confused! How do you read this:

menintights wrote:
Not at all. :D

Sex is a privilege, not a right. If you can't get any, then you probably don't deserve any. And for all the emphasis on sex, it also isn't a necessity for survival. All these people who are always whining about being the last virgin on earth need to quit treating it as such.


and conclude this:

JohnisBlind wrote:
Do you realize how you just implied that all the men and women on this board who do not experience sex are worthless? Do you realize how hurtful the comment you just made was to me and to other people?




Your reaction seems really out of left field. You've applied your own conceptions about "worth" as regards sex/sexual experience to what menintights said.


Its not that far out of left field. She said that people who can't get laid are less deserving of sex. I read less "deserving" as worth less than other people. Maybe I exaggerated when I concluded she saw people who don't have sex as "worthless". She is entitled to her own opinion.

I have not applied my own conceptions. I don't see that at all.



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14 Sep 2010, 2:28 pm

Moog wrote:
Please?


I edited my question to come across as less demanding.



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14 Sep 2010, 2:36 pm

JohnisBlind wrote:
mv wrote:
Whoa, JohnisBlind, I'm very confused! How do you read this:

menintights wrote:
Not at all. :D

Sex is a privilege, not a right. If you can't get any, then you probably don't deserve any. And for all the emphasis on sex, it also isn't a necessity for survival. All these people who are always whining about being the last virgin on earth need to quit treating it as such.


and conclude this:

JohnisBlind wrote:
Do you realize how you just implied that all the men and women on this board who do not experience sex are worthless? Do you realize how hurtful the comment you just made was to me and to other people?




Your reaction seems really out of left field. You've applied your own conceptions about "worth" as regards sex/sexual experience to what menintights said.


Its not that far out of left field. She said that people who can't get laid are less deserving of sex. I read less "deserving" as worth less than other people. Maybe I exaggerated when I concluded she saw people who don't have sex as "worthless". She is entitled to her own opinion.

I have not applied my own conceptions. I don't see that at all.



People's intrinsic worth is separate totally from their ability to get laid. Being a good and worthwhile person does not somehow give you a privileged position when it comes to sex. Nothing will give you that. No person have a right to have sex. And the "deservedness" in the original post sounds more like whether or not another person wants to have sex with you (badly phrased, but still). Which is all it boils down to. Does someone you want to have sex with, have sex with you?



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14 Sep 2010, 2:40 pm

In the end and when all is said and done, it all comes down to a person's personal life. Sex is their business and nobody elses. All the abortion people and all the people who go on about STDs really need to shut up, its nothing to do with them. If I want sex, then sex I shall get. Its my choice if I chose to protect myself or not, its my choice whether I copulate with a white, a black or an Indian woman and its my choice if I want to continue seeing the person I am currently seeing.



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14 Sep 2010, 2:42 pm

Yasmine wrote:
People's intrinsic worth is separate totally from their ability to get laid.



Exactly.



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14 Sep 2010, 3:03 pm

Craig28 wrote:
In the end and when all is said and done, it all comes down to a person's personal life. Sex is their business and nobody elses. All the abortion people and all the people who go on about STDs really need to shut up, its nothing to do with them. If I want sex, then sex I shall get. Its my choice if I chose to protect myself or not, its my choice whether I copulate with a white, a black or an Indian woman and its my choice if I want to continue seeing the person I am currently seeing.


I think you must have posted to the wrong thread Craig28. What would be your answer to the poll topic? And why?



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14 Sep 2010, 3:07 pm

JohnIsBlind, menintights is one of the female trolls here on L&D.

I do sympathize with this, primarily because, at least until the invention of artificial wombs, it keeps men who cannot become romantically involved from having children. I also sympathize with people who cannot have sex because they do not have the training necessary to change their feelings, and thus experience a great deal of craving and suffering.

I fully agree that sex is not a measure of a person's qualities.



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14 Sep 2010, 3:54 pm

primaloath wrote:
JohnIsBlind, menintights is one of the female trolls here on L&D.

I do sympathize with this, primarily because, at least until the invention of artificial wombs, it keeps men who cannot become romantically involved from having children. I also sympathize with people who cannot have sex because they do not have the training necessary to change their feelings, and thus experience a great deal of craving and suffering.

I fully agree that sex is not a measure of a person's qualities.


Perhaps you are expressing great mystical truths. I do not know, what you are saying, though. What is a "primal oath" primaloath, if I may digress from the topic? Are you bound by such an oath? An initiate of an occult order by chance? Hopefully you aren't a troll. But you never can tell in this postmodern domain of the internet can you?

I to am bound by an oath of sorts, tell me more about overcoming craving and suffering and what that has to do with sex. So that I may accomplish that oath's demand.

Perhaps I should have suspected menintights was a troll. Perhaps a transvestite?