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That's why I posted it here but you are rite about it being hard to change. Lots of people think Avoident is Antisocial. I used to think the same thing when I was younger before I started researching mental stuff

i totally laugh with them about it until it is no longer an issue

Einstein said that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. After a few hundred rejections, it's time to try something else.

I don't think him asking out a girl who has already labelled him as "creepy" is going to do anything good. Honestly, just think about it.

It's about who the guy is more than how really the guy is.

Yeah, I think sometimes I do. When I have been in relationships, it has started out with somebody I got to know beforehand and got comfortable with being around them. I will often catch women looking at me and smiling that I don't know and will return it. But, if we strike up a conversation it is painfully awkward for me and I stumble around usually until I scare them away. Maybe it is better described as being inept more than anything.

Another thing is that I am closer to being middle aged than a kid these days. Yet, with whatever social delay I seem to have, I feel that I relate better with people much younger than me-younger 20's. People my own age seem to be completely different creatures than me. I know that can easily come as creepy to younger women. I usually end up compromising with older 20's, early 30s women, who seem more developed than myself despite being younger than me. It is weird because I get accused of being the typical guy only interested in younger women, but I lack the sophistication to successfully interact with older women, despite being attracted to them. Older women seem to more interested in me from only a sexual standpoint, which isn't really what I am looking for in life.

I'm the same way except I'm 27 but I find I connect better with teenagers than women in their 20s. A lot of the single women in their 20s are into partying & usually have kids. I find I'm more on the maturity level of a young teenager; we have similar interest in music, TV/movies. One of the rezones people think I'm a pedophile

I am a woman and have the same problem. :S Can never meet a guy cuz he thinks I am chasing him and he either runs the other way or thinks I'm easy. Even when I am not even interested in him. I don't even look like an ax murderer or a hot penthouse model, but normal. I have long hair/wear feminine clothes/sometimes wear some (non-gothic) makeup and yet I have seen people avoid me like I was Boo Radley. So I end up only surrounding myself with relatives and close friends and have turned me into a social avoidant with most of the other world, hopefully one day I can change that aspect. Maybe when I start popping babies out, I will be looked at as a normal female.

I probably shouldn't have clicked this since I'll be going to bed soon. I'm soo jumpy. >.<

Anyway, I will admit to viewing some guys as creepy. There's one that comes to mind that's in the same club as I am. He's reknown for being a creeper as he'll just stare at people or talk too much to girls while invading their personal space when they clearly aren't interested. For example, a friend of mine was watching a movie in her room with her door open. She glances over at the door and sees him there, watching her watch the movie. No conversation, just watching. He got trashed at the bar last week and he wouldn't leave me alone. I don't exist to him sober so I guess he drank enough to deem me worthy of his attention. Lovely.

Sounds awful. Did you friend get up and shut the door? Does she live in a student hall?

I get it from NT guys as well. But this is usually when I do try to talk to them or smile at them.

I get called creepy when im just being me, not interacting with them in any way. They aren't the sort of people I want to be with anyway. Although i'm initially annoyed at them for being judgemental of me, after that it's not a huge deal I just stay away from them.

After he finally left, yes. She likes to keep the door open to let the air circulate because it gets super stuffy in her dorm. He lives in a different dorm where you're not allowed to leave your door open and each door is only able to be open with a passcode and key. It's harder for him to creep there.

This sounds interesting. How do you do it?

How do you recognize a cold stare, and what is a nonverbal rebuke?

I don't know how else to say it - just don't react to it. If you act like you know exactly what's going on and start shrinking or looking embarassed as if you've been scolded then its pretty much finished - they were right. If you ignore it, ignore them, talk to them in passing if needed as if you're too confident or too used to being thought of well to even register something like that, that's how you get around it.


Or when they don't look but are giving me 'f--- off' body language?;. I don't know what to say aside from that I think I'm just lucky, I have PDD-NOS rather than full-list Aspergers. On one side of things my ability to read other people isn't too bad, the only downside - I look like s--- in a neurological sense, people can't read me correctly most of the time unless they already know me or I have a chance to open my mouth and dispell what they had wrong - I don't get the comforts or imenities though of being happily oblivious to other people's judgements, if someone's walking by thinking I'm a piece I may or may not care but I can read it pretty well.


Not a technical term. If someone is giving you body language that's loaded with negative assumptions - that's what it is. I'd suppose 'real' aspies are great at this because they simply can't see it at all, myself I had to work pretty hard at overpowering it or, if they know that I see what they're doing, letting them know that I'm too self-assured to let it phase me.

It irritates me to read this. I've seen videos of you on youtube and you seem like a totally decent, normal person. I can tell you have traits, but you're obviously not dangerous or mean spirited. And not creepy whatsoever. If you just go about your day, they really have no business forming opinions like that. (If you're wondering why I saw you, I searched for aspergers commentary and somewhere you came up.)