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14 Oct 2010, 11:21 am

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Then mechanicalgirl39 you are not in that group who does obviously.

No reason to be ashamed. It is just the law of nature to find the better suited mate. That humans chose partially based on monetary value is a human trait. There are just as many men who are looking for the mate who provides the better chance with children and providing a good home.

Rather like the female bird who has two males and both are trying to prove to her they have the better nest. Guess who wins? The one with the better built nest in the safer place.

Did I say it was a smart way to find a mate? For the birds yes since her young have a better chance of surviving. For us? Nope. Look at our divorce rates. It obviously isn't working but that scramble to get to the top is there none the less. It is simply how women have decided to chose a mate.

All you can do is remain true to who you are and enjoy life as it comes. Either you find a mate or you don't ... but what others do is not affecting how you carry yourself.



nah....female birds are usually smarter than that, they mate with the stronger male and then they chose the male with the better nest as the social father of her offspring. :lol: In that way they get the best genes + best father/partner.



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14 Oct 2010, 11:35 am

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I suspect that women are pickier than men because, while a man's biological sexual goal is to distribute his plentiful sperm, the woman is the one who ends up pregnant for nine months and then does most of the caring for the resulting child. The better the man's genes are, the better the chance of survival is for the child. The more things he can provide, the more he will be able to help the woman raise the child. I think that pickiness in choosing a mate is an instinctual evolutionary adaptation.

This picky behavior among females occurs in many different species.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8ewBWyQuTY[/youtube]

Look familiar?

And anyway, if men around you with the same level of pay are getting girlfriends, then your pay probably isn't the problem. Unfortunately, courting among humans depends largely on non-verbal communication, which people with Asperger's syndrome aren't very good at. If you look good, you're smart, and men with the same wage as you are getting girlfriends, then I suspect that the problem lies in your ability to use and interpret body language.


I'm very picky about looks, but I'd never require a guy to earn a certain amount. That seems grossly arrogant and shallow.


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14 Oct 2010, 11:47 am

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I suspect that women are pickier than men because, while a man's biological sexual goal is to distribute his plentiful sperm, the woman is the one who ends up pregnant for nine months and then does most of the caring for the resulting child. The better the man's genes are, the better the chance of survival is for the child. The more things he can provide, the more he will be able to help the woman raise the child. I think that pickiness in choosing a mate is an instinctual evolutionary adaptation.

This picky behavior among females occurs in many different species.



Look familiar?

And anyway, if men around you with the same level of pay are getting girlfriends, then your pay probably isn't the problem. Unfortunately, courting among humans depends largely on non-verbal communication, which people with Asperger's syndrome aren't very good at. If you look good, you're smart, and men with the same wage as you are getting girlfriends, then I suspect that the problem lies in your ability to use and interpret body language.


I'm very picky about looks, but I'd never require a guy to earn a certain amount. That seems grossly arrogant and shallow.


Being picky about looks is even more shallow than being picky about how much the guy earns.



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14 Oct 2010, 12:16 pm

wow, this thread is silly. some women care about wages, but even if it were 90% of women (doubt it could be that high, but just for the sake of argument), that leaves 10% of the population for the OP to date.

OP: maybe it has more to do with your attitude. i'm seeing a pattern of blame with you and some other men on the forums... getting angry at women who will not date you and blaming them will make you even less appealing. most women can sense a bitter man and will generally avoid him, thus reducing your chances even further. best to work on dealing with your own issues and subsequently make yourself more dateable.

the same goes for the other men who similarly complain on the forums. honestly, some guys may as well be carrying a sign around their neck that says, "i resent women because i can't get one. STAY AWAY."


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14 Oct 2010, 12:55 pm

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Did I say it was a smart way to find a mate? For the birds yes since her young have a better chance of surviving. For us? Nope. Look at our divorce rates.


Even birds "divorce". Researchers have done tests where they painted away the male's colourful coat; the result being that his female companion got someone one the side. Then they did the opposite and gave the male coloured rings on his feet; this time he found another female on the side.

Lesson; We all want the best we can get from what we have to offer. What we want is somewhat socially determined, somewhat biological and somewhat individual. There's no use shouting derogatives at someone or a group for what they want or do not want.



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14 Oct 2010, 1:01 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
Squirrelrat wrote:
I suspect that women are pickier than men because, while a man's biological sexual goal is to distribute his plentiful sperm, the woman is the one who ends up pregnant for nine months and then does most of the caring for the resulting child. The better the man's genes are, the better the chance of survival is for the child. The more things he can provide, the more he will be able to help the woman raise the child. I think that pickiness in choosing a mate is an instinctual evolutionary adaptation.

This picky behavior among females occurs in many different species.



Look familiar?

And anyway, if men around you with the same level of pay are getting girlfriends, then your pay probably isn't the problem. Unfortunately, courting among humans depends largely on non-verbal communication, which people with Asperger's syndrome aren't very good at. If you look good, you're smart, and men with the same wage as you are getting girlfriends, then I suspect that the problem lies in your ability to use and interpret body language.


I'm very picky about looks, but I'd never require a guy to earn a certain amount. That seems grossly arrogant and shallow.


Being picky about looks is even more shallow than being picky about how much the guy earns.


I disagree. You can't help being attracted to certain narrow types. You can help putting financial demands on a potential boyfriend.

You think I should just go out with any ugly guy, because after all, I am a woman and therefore, b***h that I am, I owe men sex? I didn't say looks were the only thing I went for, ya know.


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14 Oct 2010, 3:24 pm

mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
Squirrelrat wrote:
I suspect that women are pickier than men because, while a man's biological sexual goal is to distribute his plentiful sperm, the woman is the one who ends up pregnant for nine months and then does most of the caring for the resulting child. The better the man's genes are, the better the chance of survival is for the child. The more things he can provide, the more he will be able to help the woman raise the child. I think that pickiness in choosing a mate is an instinctual evolutionary adaptation.

This picky behavior among females occurs in many different species.



Look familiar?

And anyway, if men around you with the same level of pay are getting girlfriends, then your pay probably isn't the problem. Unfortunately, courting among humans depends largely on non-verbal communication, which people with Asperger's syndrome aren't very good at. If you look good, you're smart, and men with the same wage as you are getting girlfriends, then I suspect that the problem lies in your ability to use and interpret body language.


I'm very picky about looks, but I'd never require a guy to earn a certain amount. That seems grossly arrogant and shallow.


Being picky about looks is even more shallow than being picky about how much the guy earns.


I disagree. You can't help being attracted to certain narrow types. You can help putting financial demands on a potential boyfriend.

You think I should just go out with any ugly guy, because after all, I am a woman and therefore, b***h that I am, I owe men sex? I didn't say looks were the only thing I went for, ya know.


o gawd Image .....don't put words in my mouth (you can put chocolate tho) , I neither called you a b- word nor anything like that , i didn't even say that you only go for that or you own any guy some sex.

Besides, we all have our 'shallow' instincts , so chill.

But in my personal opinion, if I was wealthy and successful, I would prefer a girl who would appreciate me for my wealth/success I made since they were earned by hard word and intellect rather than a girl who would appreciate me just for my looks. That if I was left on an island with just 2 girls to choose from :roll: because in reality I wouldn't prefer any.

How much you earn is just the visual manifestation of success , it's not always fair and accurate, but it's the best tangible measure in our materialistic world.



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14 Oct 2010, 3:43 pm

Biggest reason I see for men having problems getting dates is their targets. Every guy wants the same small group of girls. Meanwhile the rest of the girls are grumbling about their inability to get a date, just like you. That doesn't mean neccessarily you need to look for ugly women, just stop looking at the hottest girl in the room.



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14 Oct 2010, 4:18 pm

ducky9924 wrote:
Biggest reason I see for men having problems getting dates is their targets. Every guy wants the same small group of girls. Meanwhile the rest of the girls are grumbling about their inability to get a date, just like you. That doesn't mean neccessarily you need to look for ugly women, just stop looking at the hottest girl in the room.


Thats bull the taste of men is as diverse as the taste of women, also suggesting that we lower our standards for your [sex's] benefit is an insult to our dignity and shows a lack of pride in your gender.(that is to say you lack a feeling of pride for your gender) You can't be happy working for what you don't actually want. If you want the hottest women there's no reason why you shouldn't be trying to get her.



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14 Oct 2010, 4:29 pm

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ducky9924 wrote:
Biggest reason I see for men having problems getting dates is their targets. Every guy wants the same small group of girls. Meanwhile the rest of the girls are grumbling about their inability to get a date, just like you. That doesn't mean neccessarily you need to look for ugly women, just stop looking at the hottest girl in the room.


Thats bull the taste of men is as diverse as the taste of women, also suggesting that we lower our standards for your [sex's] benefit is an insult to our dignity and shows a lack of pride in your gender.(that is to say you lack a feeling of pride for your gender) You can't be happy working for what you don't actually want. If you want the hottest women there's no reason why you shouldn't be trying to get her.


I disagree , there are a hell of reasons why not all guys should only focus on the hottest girl in the room , especially guys who lack social skills like us.
First, the hottest girl in the room is more likely to be far more experienced than you , a lot of us have zero sex experience.
Second, the hottest girl in the room is much more likely to be taken already.
Third, the hottest girl would have countless of candidates = too much competition, and aspies will most likely lose.
Fourth, a lot of us are not hot, nerd , geeks ....types which are not easily desirable by girls .....the hottest girl in the room would be most likely used to the total opposite type of guys.

If one has standards in the cloud and can't get a bf/gf yet he/she wants one then he/she HAS to lower the standards a bit.

I see no insult in ducky9924's post , her suggestion is utterly realistic.



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ducky9924 wrote:
Biggest reason I see for men having problems getting dates is their targets. Every guy wants the same small group of girls. Meanwhile the rest of the girls are grumbling about their inability to get a date, just like you. That doesn't mean neccessarily you need to look for ugly women, just stop looking at the hottest girl in the room.


Thats bull the taste of men is as diverse as the taste of women, also suggesting that we lower our standards for your [sex's] benefit is an insult to our dignity and shows a lack of pride in your gender.(that is to say you lack a feeling of pride for your gender) You can't be happy working for what you don't actually want. If you want the hottest women there's no reason why you shouldn't be trying to get her.


lol, women do the same stupid thing, drooling over the hottest guy in the room, being completely oblivious to the slightly less attractive folks that would make just as wonderful mates, if not superior mates. :P

If you want to ignore the the 9s in the room cause you want the 10, go for it, just don't b***h cause you fail to get her attention with all the other guys in the room also vieing for her. :P



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14 Oct 2010, 4:43 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
ikorack wrote:
ducky9924 wrote:
Biggest reason I see for men having problems getting dates is their targets. Every guy wants the same small group of girls. Meanwhile the rest of the girls are grumbling about their inability to get a date, just like you. That doesn't mean neccessarily you need to look for ugly women, just stop looking at the hottest girl in the room.


Thats bull the taste of men is as diverse as the taste of women, also suggesting that we lower our standards for your [sex's] benefit is an insult to our dignity and shows a lack of pride in your gender.(that is to say you lack a feeling of pride for your gender) You can't be happy working for what you don't actually want. If you want the hottest women there's no reason why you shouldn't be trying to get her.


I disagree , there are a hell of reasons why not all guys should only focus on the hottest girl in the room , especially guys who lack social skills like us.
First, the hottest girl in the room is more likely to be far more experienced than you , a lot of us have zero sex experience.
Second, the hottest girl in the room is much more likely to be taken already.
Third, the hottest girl would have countless of candidates = too much competition, and aspies will most likely lose.
Fourth, a lot of us are not hot, nerd , geeks ....types which are not easily desirable by girls .....the hottest girl in the room would be most likely used to the total opposite type of guys.

If one has standards in the cloud and can't get a bf/gf yet he/she wants one then he/she HAS to lower the standards a bit.

I see no insult in ducky9924's post , her suggestion is utterly realistic.

yes, exactly. worth noting is that the girl who ranks #4 or #5 in the pack will know that a guy went for her hot friend first, and she will reject him with no hesiattion if she feels like she is second best.

way back i used to go to the bar with my friend who was often mistaken for a model. she was close to perfect according to guys, and she was intelligent and ambitious too. i was short in height, flat-chested, sorta thin at the time, averagely nice looks. well, if a guy asked her to dance and she said "no", then he turned to ask me... he could hardly get the words out before i would say "no" too. it felt horrible to be anyone's second pick (and no, it didn't always happen to me. sometimes i was exactly what a guy was looking for).


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14 Oct 2010, 5:18 pm

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I'm very picky about looks, but I'd never require a guy to earn a certain amount. That seems grossly arrogant and shallow.


Until the bills start rolling in and you still need to pay for school uniforms and a tutors and music lessons and sports kit. And you need a bigger house and to pay for your mums operation. And you would still like to see the pyramids and the Taj Mahal but be sure your kids get through college and ensure that your daughter has a beautiful wedding and and and and ...


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14 Oct 2010, 5:34 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
Squirrelrat wrote:
I suspect that women are pickier than men because, while a man's biological sexual goal is to distribute his plentiful sperm, the woman is the one who ends up pregnant for nine months and then does most of the caring for the resulting child. The better the man's genes are, the better the chance of survival is for the child. The more things he can provide, the more he will be able to help the woman raise the child. I think that pickiness in choosing a mate is an instinctual evolutionary adaptation.

This picky behavior among females occurs in many different species.



Look familiar?

And anyway, if men around you with the same level of pay are getting girlfriends, then your pay probably isn't the problem. Unfortunately, courting among humans depends largely on non-verbal communication, which people with Asperger's syndrome aren't very good at. If you look good, you're smart, and men with the same wage as you are getting girlfriends, then I suspect that the problem lies in your ability to use and interpret body language.


I'm very picky about looks, but I'd never require a guy to earn a certain amount. That seems grossly arrogant and shallow.


Being picky about looks is even more shallow than being picky about how much the guy earns.


I disagree. You can't help being attracted to certain narrow types. You can help putting financial demands on a potential boyfriend.

You think I should just go out with any ugly guy, because after all, I am a woman and therefore, b***h that I am, I owe men sex? I didn't say looks were the only thing I went for, ya know.


o gawd Image .....don't put words in my mouth (you can put chocolate tho) , I neither called you a b- word nor anything like that , i didn't even say that you only go for that or you own any guy some sex.

Besides, we all have our 'shallow' instincts , so chill.

But in my personal opinion, if I was wealthy and successful, I would prefer a girl who would appreciate me for my wealth/success I made since they were earned by hard word and intellect rather than a girl who would appreciate me just for my looks. That if I was left on an island with just 2 girls to choose from :roll: because in reality I wouldn't prefer any.

How much you earn is just the visual manifestation of success , it's not always fair and accurate, but it's the best tangible measure in our materialistic world.


That's all theoretical though. It doesn't matter how much a guy has achieved, or how rich he is, if he is mediocre looking, I won't be sexually attracted to him. I can get on well with him, I can respect him, I can appreciate him very much as a friend - but none of those things amount to sexual attraction. Do you seriously think it shallow that I am turned on by looks, and at a close second, personality, rather than wealth?? For god's sake. Sorry - money and achievement just don't get my sex hormones pumping out. I am attracted to him, not his money.


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I would never pick a mate based on wages. I don't think it has ever even crossed my mind to look for a boyfriend who earns a certain amount. It seems so scabby and low.


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mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
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mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
Squirrelrat wrote:
I suspect that women are pickier than men because, while a man's biological sexual goal is to distribute his plentiful sperm, the woman is the one who ends up pregnant for nine months and then does most of the caring for the resulting child. The better the man's genes are, the better the chance of survival is for the child. The more things he can provide, the more he will be able to help the woman raise the child. I think that pickiness in choosing a mate is an instinctual evolutionary adaptation.

This picky behavior among females occurs in many different species.



Look familiar?

And anyway, if men around you with the same level of pay are getting girlfriends, then your pay probably isn't the problem. Unfortunately, courting among humans depends largely on non-verbal communication, which people with Asperger's syndrome aren't very good at. If you look good, you're smart, and men with the same wage as you are getting girlfriends, then I suspect that the problem lies in your ability to use and interpret body language.


I'm very picky about looks, but I'd never require a guy to earn a certain amount. That seems grossly arrogant and shallow.


Being picky about looks is even more shallow than being picky about how much the guy earns.


I disagree. You can't help being attracted to certain narrow types. You can help putting financial demands on a potential boyfriend.

You think I should just go out with any ugly guy, because after all, I am a woman and therefore, b***h that I am, I owe men sex? I didn't say looks were the only thing I went for, ya know.


o gawd Image .....don't put words in my mouth (you can put chocolate tho) , I neither called you a b- word nor anything like that , i didn't even say that you only go for that or you own any guy some sex.

Besides, we all have our 'shallow' instincts , so chill.

But in my personal opinion, if I was wealthy and successful, I would prefer a girl who would appreciate me for my wealth/success I made since they were earned by hard word and intellect rather than a girl who would appreciate me just for my looks. That if I was left on an island with just 2 girls to choose from :roll: because in reality I wouldn't prefer any.

How much you earn is just the visual manifestation of success , it's not always fair and accurate, but it's the best tangible measure in our materialistic world.


That's all theoretical though. It doesn't matter how much a guy has achieved, or how rich he is, if he is mediocre looking, I won't be sexually attracted to him. I can get on well with him, I can respect him, I can appreciate him very much as a friend - but none of those things amount to sexual attraction. Do you seriously think it shallow that I am turned on by looks, and at a close second, personality, rather than wealth?? For god's sake. Sorry - money and achievement just don't get my sex hormones pumping out. I am attracted to him, not his money.


I am hot-looking btw.