Would you love a robot or clone?

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19 Nov 2010, 3:19 am

I'm with Crinkly...I'd rather have a human with flaws. Not every guy is about having some model girl to have sex with and look good around his arms at get-togethers. If I were with some playboy looking woman (and I don't like that type anyway) people would just assume I paid for it or that I know the right people or something. I'd much rather have a compatible partner.



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19 Nov 2010, 5:03 am

Can I meet them first? They might be lovely robotic clones, I don't know.


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19 Nov 2010, 3:11 pm

No I don't think I could.



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19 Nov 2010, 3:31 pm

There was a movie about this in the 80s called Cheery 2000 with Melanie Griffith.

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1800046604/info



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19 Nov 2010, 3:43 pm

nthach wrote:
CrinklyCrustacean wrote:
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Imagine an android that could look like any of the hottest supermodels around (Interchangeable face plates) , provide mindblowing condom-free sex, cook, clean, know and say key subroutines that press male emotional buttons (appreciation, affection, etc), do therapeutic/erotic massage, not have PMS, never get addicted to booze or pills, not assrape you in divorce court, not make you buy new furniture every year, not cheat on you because she is bored, not tell you "let's just be friends", not get old and wrinkly, not get fat or run up your credit card...

No, I want a human, flaws and all. It is their flaws which make them real.


Do you really want that or do you just think you want that because you think society expects you to want that?


I really want that: a human with flaws over a 'perfect' robot any day, and for the record, what you list are not the dream qualities I look for in a partner.

QFT.

The only Android I'll have a relationship with is the one born by Google. I want people with personality, not the soul of a washing machine/Lexus/Prius. I can pluck down money at Sears or the local auto mall if I want a souless, emotionless machine
(or in the case of the later example something that reflects how the Aspie male mind thinks and has few things in common with aspies - odd, awkward, etc...)

true. personality requires true interaction.


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19 Nov 2010, 4:07 pm

I think this thread really shows up the good aspies from the bad :lol:

I would definately want a robot. When I watched A.I. I loved gigalo Joe, I thought he was lovely. However like the real world Im sure these love bots would have too much sentience and want freedom from their aspie owners. I think they would leave us for NTs or have in their contracts that they didnt have to be sold to us :lol:

look who wouldnt want that! :heart:

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19 Nov 2010, 4:38 pm

"Hello Master, I am programmed for your pleasure.

Please , assume the position."



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19 Nov 2010, 9:07 pm

lotusblossom wrote:
I think this thread really shows up the good aspies from the bad :lol:

I would definately want a robot. When I watched A.I. I loved gigalo Joe, I thought he was lovely. However like the real world Im sure these love bots would have too much sentience and want freedom from their aspie owners. I think they would leave us for NTs or have in their contracts that they didnt have to be sold to us :lol:

look who wouldnt want that! :heart:

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What can I say? It feels so good to be so bad! :twisted:

I have a feeling there would be subroutines to ensure the AIs don't run off. There is too much money to be made for there not to be.

Sexbots will be an extremely disruptive technology. If the gals opine that good men are hard to find now, wait until the guys go completely off the market!

Come to think of it, the androids would not sell as well as the gynoids since male emotional buttons are far simpler to please than female emotional buttons.

Given that the android sexbot would have to be an abusive jerk to keep the female customer happy, it opens up a shedload of liability for personal injury lawsuits against the makers :twisted:



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19 Nov 2010, 9:12 pm

Yeah - Bladerunner.

If I can love a potted plant I can love a robot.



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20 Nov 2010, 6:05 am

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Sexbots will be an extremely disruptive technology. If the gals opine that good men are hard to find now, wait until the guys go completely off the market!


It depends what they mean by a good man. If they mean a man for whom sex is not the be-all and end-all of a relationship, then it'll actually be easier. All the men (like yourself) who are in it just for the sex will buy a robot and be happy, leaving all the guys who are interested in the girl for who she is with far better odds of finding someone.

This is sounding increasingly like The Stepford Wives.



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20 Nov 2010, 6:59 am

CrinklyCrustacean wrote:
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Sexbots will be an extremely disruptive technology. If the gals opine that good men are hard to find now, wait until the guys go completely off the market!


It depends what they mean by a good man. If they mean a man for whom sex is not the be-all and end-all of a relationship, then it'll actually be easier. All the men (like yourself) who are in it just for the sex will buy a robot and be happy, leaving all the guys who are interested in the girl for who she is with far better odds of finding someone.

This is sounding increasingly like The Stepford Wives.


It's sort of like fake boobs - they didn't render real ones obsolete. Heh. This is a funny train of thought.

The poor guys will still have to settle for the real thing.

Huh, but maybe robot girls will prefer CZ's so it'll all even out. :lol: :

I'd take a robot GF. She'd never need the bathroom for getting ready so I wouldn't have to share.



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20 Nov 2010, 10:50 am

If the clone hasn't been modified for obedience, yes. A replicant from Blade Runner? Yes. A machine? No.


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20 Nov 2010, 12:53 pm

CrinklyCrustacean wrote:
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Sexbots will be an extremely disruptive technology. If the gals opine that good men are hard to find now, wait until the guys go completely off the market!


It depends what they mean by a good man. If they mean a man for whom sex is not the be-all and end-all of a relationship, then it'll actually be easier. All the men (like yourself) who are in it just for the sex will buy a robot and be happy, leaving all the guys who are interested in the girl for who she is with far better odds of finding someone.

This is sounding increasingly like The Stepford Wives.


What I am saying is that all those "dogged nice guys" (see tvtropes.org) will be dropping off the sexual marketplace post-haste as soon as they see they can get laid with a 10 who doesn't age. Relationships are built around an irregular (occasionally wishful) reward cycle.

When that cycle is short-circuited, it is like playing a game again after your punched in the cheat codes.

The guys who stay on the sexual marketplace will find that it is easy pickings and guys with options are guys who are less and less likely to commit to one girl.



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20 Nov 2010, 1:27 pm

RICKY5 wrote:
CrinklyCrustacean wrote:
RICKY5 wrote:
Sexbots will be an extremely disruptive technology. If the gals opine that good men are hard to find now, wait until the guys go completely off the market!


It depends what they mean by a good man. If they mean a man for whom sex is not the be-all and end-all of a relationship, then it'll actually be easier. All the men (like yourself) who are in it just for the sex will buy a robot and be happy, leaving all the guys who are interested in the girl for who she is with far better odds of finding someone.

This is sounding increasingly like The Stepford Wives.


What I am saying is that all those "dogged nice guys" (see tvtropes.org) will be dropping off the sexual marketplace post-haste as soon as they see they can get laid with a 10 who doesn't age. Relationships are built around an irregular (occasionally wishful) reward cycle.

When that cycle is short-circuited, it is like playing a game again after your punched in the cheat codes.

The guys who stay on the sexual marketplace will find that it is easy pickings and guys with options are guys who are less and less likely to commit to one girl.

your logic is flawed. this doesn't happen in post-war countries, where a large number of marriageable men are killed off.


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20 Nov 2010, 6:06 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
RICKY5 wrote:
CrinklyCrustacean wrote:
RICKY5 wrote:
Sexbots will be an extremely disruptive technology. If the gals opine that good men are hard to find now, wait until the guys go completely off the market!


It depends what they mean by a good man. If they mean a man for whom sex is not the be-all and end-all of a relationship, then it'll actually be easier. All the men (like yourself) who are in it just for the sex will buy a robot and be happy, leaving all the guys who are interested in the girl for who she is with far better odds of finding someone.

This is sounding increasingly like The Stepford Wives.


What I am saying is that all those "dogged nice guys" (see tvtropes.org) will be dropping off the sexual marketplace post-haste as soon as they see they can get laid with a 10 who doesn't age. Relationships are built around an irregular (occasionally wishful) reward cycle.

When that cycle is short-circuited, it is like playing a game again after your punched in the cheat codes.

The guys who stay on the sexual marketplace will find that it is easy pickings and guys with options are guys who are less and less likely to commit to one girl.

your logic is flawed. this doesn't happen in post-war countries, where a large number of marriageable men are killed off.


Are you referring to post-ww1/ww2 American society?

Post-ww1 and post ww2 America are radically different from 2010 America. Gender role expectations are different, birth control was not widely available, STD treatments not as advanced, and divorce was somewhat stigmatized and not the sort of profitable industry like it is today.



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20 Nov 2010, 6:25 pm

RICKY5 wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
RICKY5 wrote:
CrinklyCrustacean wrote:
RICKY5 wrote:
Sexbots will be an extremely disruptive technology. If the gals opine that good men are hard to find now, wait until the guys go completely off the market!


It depends what they mean by a good man. If they mean a man for whom sex is not the be-all and end-all of a relationship, then it'll actually be easier. All the men (like yourself) who are in it just for the sex will buy a robot and be happy, leaving all the guys who are interested in the girl for who she is with far better odds of finding someone.

This is sounding increasingly like The Stepford Wives.


What I am saying is that all those "dogged nice guys" (see tvtropes.org) will be dropping off the sexual marketplace post-haste as soon as they see they can get laid with a 10 who doesn't age. Relationships are built around an irregular (occasionally wishful) reward cycle.

When that cycle is short-circuited, it is like playing a game again after your punched in the cheat codes.

The guys who stay on the sexual marketplace will find that it is easy pickings and guys with options are guys who are less and less likely to commit to one girl.

your logic is flawed. this doesn't happen in post-war countries, where a large number of marriageable men are killed off.


Are you referring to post-ww1/ww2 American society?

Post-ww1 and post ww2 America are radically different from 2010 America. Gender role expectations are different, birth control was not widely available, STD treatments not as advanced, and divorce was somewhat stigmatized and not the sort of profitable industry like it is today.

i'm talking about every country that had fewer men than women because of war. let's say in the last century (even recently in war-torn countries). there is no reason to think that men would suddenly start hopping from bed to bed just because there are more women available, whether it is because of robots or because of war.


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