Why do boys want good-looking girls?

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12 Jan 2005, 10:16 am

Children from a very young age are attracted to symmetrical faces and strong bodies. Beautiful people with strong bodies are more likely to be better candidates for healthy babies. That is really the bottom line of it all.
Pretty people more often get better jobs, have an easier time in school and are more readily accepted than 'uglier' people. There is one exception to the beauty rule though which is baffling! The baby face... The baby face is more roundly featured than a typical sharply defined, symmetrical face. People that have the baby face are very well accepted on a sublime level as well.
It all boils down to what we want in a mate and that is to have healty children.



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12 Jan 2005, 1:43 pm

scientific research has proved that everybody's face is assymmetrical, and that faces which are perfectly symmetrical (done with mirrors, etc.) are less attractive, even to the extent of looking "unpleasant" to the subjects tested in the research. and the most beautiful faces, classically, have a dregree of imperfection. and a pretty face doesn't necessarily equate with a strong, helathy body. the current vogue for women with hips like greyhounds refutes this utterly - pelvic girdles have to be wider for easy childbearing.

basically, perhaps the whole thing is about "i don't want to be seen out with a moose".



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12 Jan 2005, 2:32 pm

There are varying degrees of symmetry and no, none is 100% perfectly balanced. Like it or not, beautiful people have an advantage over everyone else and it's programmed into our heads when we are very very young.



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13 Jan 2005, 1:30 am

It would be a lie to say that I don't factor physical attractiveness into what I like in a woman. But for me its about number 4 or 5 on the list of qualities I am looking for. All things being equal, sure I would like a relationship with the woman I find the most attractive.... but I know better and things don't quite work like that.

Actually when I think about it, looks isn't that important. In a purely hypothetical situation... I marry someone I find to be ultra attractive. But then in some freak accident she gets some horrible burns on the face and gets a few limbs amputated. Now am I going to love this person less now that I don't find the physical apperance attractive anymore? And in a complete worse case scenario, what if I find this person's personality to be not so great... now I am married to some one I find unattractive on all counts... So in the end being attracted to someone based mostly on the physical isn't of much importance.

Another thing I've been thinking about in terms of attractivness, I think I can find beauty in most woman if I try hard enough... If I find someone who has every other quality I am looking for in a woman but otherwise find unactractive I would deffinetly try to have a relationship with that woman. I think this is a very differient attitude then most people... but I am not sure.

On a similar topic... What I find attractive is differient then most men. I wonder if this is related to my Asperger-ness(I am not completely sure if I have it yet)... any one else find what they consider attractive counter to the norms?



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13 Jan 2005, 4:47 am

duncvis wrote:
It does hale_bopp, just adding my thoughts. :)


oh, I didn't see you had mentioned my post. :oops: sorry.

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any one else find what they consider attractive counter to the norms?


I don't really know.. there has to be some physical attraction there. Maybe i'm just a-sexual, or maybe I just don't know what i'm looking for. :?



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13 Jan 2005, 4:52 am

hale_bopp wrote:

I don't really know.. there has to be some physical attraction there. Maybe i'm just a-sexual, or maybe I just don't know what i'm looking for. :?


Or it could just be that you are attracted to a person for who they are rather than simply because of what they look like?


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09 Feb 2005, 6:41 pm

It's time for me to whip out my Logic Stick and hit you all upside the head with it.

Let's be honest. Given the choice between having an ugly girlfriend or an attractive one, with all other factors being equal, which would you rather have? Yeah, that's what I thought.

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09 Feb 2005, 7:49 pm

According to popular opinion in American society, females look attractive when they're thin, have big breasts, long legs, and a perfect complexion. In the average male mind, this is directly tied to sex. Personally I find most of these girls to be revolting, since nearly all of the ones I've known are rotten on the inside. With me not being very interested in sex, I seem to be able to see that more easily than most. I'd say that I would flat-out refuse to date 99% of "attractive" girls that I've met in my life.

In response to your question FuzzyChickens, I'd have to see both of them. If you're basing that on society's standards, I'd probably pick the "ugly" one.



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09 Feb 2005, 8:05 pm

FuzzyChickens

I would not call an unobtainable hyperthetical honesty. This discounts the diversity of women as pressumes that someone could find two women of exactly the same characteristics, yet different physical features. Given the uniqueness of all humans, I can only discard your hyperthetical as gibberish.
To then wave around your wacking stick, while you tell people how they think this same gibberish as you, and proffess yourself to be correct dissapoints me. Its what I come to this board to have a break from because this senario is so common for me out in face to face situations.

If you have an opinion, you would have a better chance of me understanding your point of view if you don't first try to make me own it as something I think already.

I think your logic stick is malfunctioning.

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09 Feb 2005, 8:20 pm

It depends what people want. Some people think thin is best, others prefer the buxom look over any other.

But I know where you're coming from, FuzzyChickens. I'm not just going to out and out lie, I would choose the attractive one.

Why do people assume all people that are "ugly" are nice people? I know some people that you could call "ugly" and they are really horrible people, too.



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09 Feb 2005, 9:21 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
It depends what people want. Some people think thin is best, others prefer the buxom look over any other.

But I know where you're coming from, FuzzyChickens. I'm not just going to out and out lie, I would choose the attractive one.

Why do people assume all people that are "ugly" are nice people? I know some people that you could call "ugly" and they are really horrible people, too.


A lot of ugly people are mean. People talk about inner beauty but some of the people I know that have the most outer beauty are actually the ones with the most inner beauty as well. I think inner beauty is a rationalization that a lot of people who don't take care of their bodies use to make themselves feel better. On a slightly related note, I think its so much easier for an overweight guy to be viewed as attractive than it is for an overweight female. I know lots of overweight guys who have thin and attractive girlfriends but I don't know many overweight girls who can manage to go out with the type of guys that I just mentioned. Is this a result of our society? No. I think it is actually more deeply rooted in our origins as a species. Please note that some people's lack of beauty is not a result of their failure to exercise, but because they were born this way. BUT, I think it is possible for these types of people to make themselves look beautiful just by feeling good about themselves. You'd be surprised how different someone looks when they are unhappy all the times. Being happy would probably add 3 or 4 points to someone in a 1-10 scale of beauty.


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09 Feb 2005, 10:35 pm

The people I find ugly are the ones who don't say anything back to you when you greet them or compliment them (I seem to be getting this a lot my whole life, maybe it's my voice tone or something, or the way i say it)..they'll act all snobbish, or stuck-up and just snub you..I hate that..people just get to me sometimes...bastards



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09 Feb 2005, 10:38 pm

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09 Feb 2005, 11:03 pm

Of the many people I've known, the ugly ones are almost always polite and accepting of others' imperfections while more than half the attractive ones will act superior and make fun of you behind your back. I'm not generalizing from what I've heard, this is just from personal experience. It might be because of the society of the area I live in, things are probably different elsewhere, but it's too obvious to be ignored.



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10 Feb 2005, 12:24 am

ghotistix wrote:
Of the many people I've known, the ugly ones are almost always polite and accepting of others' imperfections while more than half the attractive ones will act superior and make fun of you behind your back. I'm not generalizing from what I've heard, this is just from personal experience. It might be because of the society of the area I live in, things are probably different elsewhere, but it's too obvious to be ignored.


Weird..

Girls:

To me is pretty much been the opposite.

The "cool" people were never my friends, but alot of them were quite friendly and not nasty as far as I know. Of course there are some mean "cool" people, I'd say from what i've met about 50/50.

But as for "ugly" people, most of the ones i've met have been totally bitchy. Alot of the time those were th girls that bullied me of made me feel like a "ret*d".And same goes for plain people, not "cool" or "hot" but not "ugly".

The boys that thought they were cool though, they were totally horrible people. I'm not kidding, they were really nasty.

On the other hand, The boys that would be classed as "plain" or "ugly" are usually pretty nice people.

My experience anyway.



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10 Feb 2005, 1:34 am

You know, for some reason, the girls I've met who had the most disagreeable personalities were also among the ugliest, while the ones I got along best with were pretty hot. O, if only I had a time machine...

ghotistix wrote:
In response to your question FuzzyChickens, I'd have to see both of them. If you're basing that on society's standards, I'd probably pick the "ugly" one.


If you'd read my "Society sucks" thread, you'd know that "society's standards" are completely irrelevant to my question. And honestly, I think the idea that men like big breasts is a load of crap...

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I would not call an unobtainable hyperthetical honesty. This discounts the diversity of women as pressumes that someone could find two women of exactly the same characteristics, yet different physical features. Given the uniqueness of all humans, I can only discard your hyperthetical as gibberish.


The whole idea behind HYPOthetical situations is that whether they're obtainable or not doesn't matter. If adherence to reality was mandatory, then I would have picked two real people. And in modern society, so many girls are so devoid of personality that you probably COULD find two girls with the same (or arbitrarily close to the same) personality, or lack thereof. Sad, but true...