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17 Jun 2011, 12:46 pm

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So now we are dishonest because we say money and social status mean little to us?

You are being dishonest if you say they don't matter when they do. There are lots of women that really does not matter for but there are plenty who say they don't matter when they do. Lots of women who are obsessed with things like that lie about em not mattering. It's extremely rare that a women is honest & has enough guts to admit that.

Oh, I see. I haven't noticed anyone being dishonest in this respect.

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17 Jun 2011, 12:50 pm

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NTs anyway are complete blaggers. Many of them believe in their own lies as a defence against those who my try to force it out. A man's height is a form of status and how often do you see a tall woman with a shorter man, though it is partly down to short men not preffering taller woman.

I remember talking about finding a way to acquire wealth to become eligible. And the cheif blagger who used to work in office said "eligible for what? Money making you more eligible to woman, never heard that before.

I'm not sure what point you hoped to make with that picture, but have you considered that perhaps you have a biased view of NTs?

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17 Jun 2011, 12:54 pm

A woman who likes a wealthy man needn't be a negative thing. Most woman subconsciously wants a man who can take care of the children .
and offer financial support. And have children who in turn will inherit the same characteristics and be successful. In times gone by a man's
wealth could mean the difference between children dying of hunger, disease and general poverty and having a good life.

These times are worse for an aspie. The current trend is becoming less towards respectable wealthy man and more towards cool, bad boy player types.
Those types who's wealth is multiplied by how many children he has who are supported by the state.

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17 Jun 2011, 1:01 pm

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Nice. So now women just want to be taken care of.

Caring enough to make sure you don't starve is not what we are talking about here.

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17 Jun 2011, 1:04 pm

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

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Nice. So now women just want to be taken care of.

Caring enough to make sure you don't starve is not what we are talking about here.

Their young to be taken care of. I am not great with words but all woman want their young
to have the best start in life, no?

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17 Jun 2011, 1:06 pm

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TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

Aspie_Chav wrote:

Nice. So now women just want to be taken care of.

Caring enough to make sure you don't starve is not what we are talking about here.

Their young to be taken care of. I am not great with words but all woman want their young
to have the best start in life, no?

But not all women look to a man for that purpose. I can't stress that enough.

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17 Jun 2011, 1:06 pm

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Their young to be taken care of. I am not great with words but all woman want their young
to have the best start in life, no?

Most that have children or want them, sure. However, women don't always pick their partners based on children.

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17 Jun 2011, 1:08 pm

I have to go now but to sum it up. The dating game and preferences can be explained by science, biology and
the laws of evolution.

The reason why people with aspergers have dating problems is because they are low status. Wouldn't it pay to
work on that status. If you thin you can improve more easily socially to that, if it is easier to make more money
do that.

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17 Jun 2011, 1:08 pm

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But not all women look to a man for that purpose. I can't stress that enough.

Right.

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17 Jun 2011, 1:10 pm

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I have to go now but to sum it up. The dating game and preferences can be explained by science, biology and
the laws of evolution.

Despite all of that, not every woman has the urge to have children.

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17 Jun 2011, 1:15 pm

I haven't got that much desire to have children..

I would not, but it more depends on my man though

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17 Jun 2011, 1:15 pm

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but that isn't true in modern western society - now, a woman can make her own money and even be the breadwinner.

anyway, 10,000 years ago all women worked too (even 100 years ago many women worked, excepting the wealthy people, for example on the farm). it is a relatively recent development to have women take care of a home only, without also having other tasks outside the home as well.

i do think it is a negative thing to judge a person based on wealth because money is *not* a consistently accurate sign of ethics, morality, spiritual enlightenment, intelligence, emotional health, integrity, hardworking tendencies, character, ability to provide.... etc.... money is transient but qualities like that tend to linger and underlie all of our actions in a much more important way.

really, wealth is *only* an indicator that a person has... money. (as an extreme example, rich people of either gender can be deadbeat parents - money does not equal being a good provider). therefore, judging anything about a person based on their money is not only shallow but also potentially inaccurate.

i think the world would be a better place if people really understood how empty those kind of judgements really are, at the core.

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17 Jun 2011, 1:16 pm

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

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Their young to be taken care of. I am not great with words but all woman want their young
to have the best start in life, no?

Most that have children or want them, sure. However, women don't always pick their partners based on children.

consciously no, but their is always something in the instinct. If they have sex with a partner , the sex intent exists
for reproduction regardless of if they want chidren

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17 Jun 2011, 1:21 pm

Aspie_Chav wrote:

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

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Their young to be taken care of. I am not great with words but all woman want their young
to have the best start in life, no?

Most that have children or want them, sure. However, women don't always pick their partners based on children.

consciously no, but their is always something in the instinct. If they have sex with a partner , the sex intent exists
for reproduction regardless of if they want chidren

If we were all built the same as you suggest, society and life would be much different. In fact, I assert that if our drive to procreate was naturally part of every single human in existence, we would probably still be making stone tools and living in caves.

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17 Jun 2011, 1:23 pm

We'd basically be hairless bonobo's

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17 Jun 2011, 1:25 pm

hyperlexian wrote:

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A woman who likes a wealthy man needn't be a negative thing. Most woman subconsciously wants a man who can take care of the children .
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Recent changes doesn't mean that instinct goes away. Instinct that took millions of years to create.
It would work out better for woman to use artificial insemination from a stock of good and great men.
But that doesn't mean the sex instinct will go away. Instinct just doesn't disappear over night because
it is not required.

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