Is there a way
Ilka
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Be prepared for rejection. Be prepared for the possibility the other person might say NO. Its like playing. If you play a game there are always two possibilities: you may win or you may loose. Respect the other person's right to say NO and do not take it personal, because that person has the right to say NO, and has her/his own reasons for that. Free will, my friend. Just accept it and move on. You will find the one that will say YES.
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ToadOfSteel wrote:
...to make rejections less painful?
I just want to be able to ask a girl out, apply for a job, hell, even being able to join a group would be nice. But the looming threat of rejection is always poised to strike when i am at my weakest: alone.
Some suggest that you just ignore it or not care about it, which to them works as some sort of plot armor, but to me it just doesn't make any sense, as in order to put myself out there, I have to care about it. I'm not going to ask out a girl I don't even know... most of the time im not even attracted at that point. It's only after getting to know a girl that I start thinking about it, feeling attractions, and all that, and it's only then that I could even contemplate asking a girl out. And needless to say, "not caring" when asking a girl out in that situation is only doing both of us a disservice.
I just want to be able to ask a girl out, apply for a job, hell, even being able to join a group would be nice. But the looming threat of rejection is always poised to strike when i am at my weakest: alone.
Some suggest that you just ignore it or not care about it, which to them works as some sort of plot armor, but to me it just doesn't make any sense, as in order to put myself out there, I have to care about it. I'm not going to ask out a girl I don't even know... most of the time im not even attracted at that point. It's only after getting to know a girl that I start thinking about it, feeling attractions, and all that, and it's only then that I could even contemplate asking a girl out. And needless to say, "not caring" when asking a girl out in that situation is only doing both of us a disservice.
You might not like my response but here it goes:
I had similar trouble with the whole rejection thing which made me seem shy,insecure etc which lead to more rejection every time I asked someone(I was awkward, I had issues... I dont blame them).
One day for whatever reason(I think she needed some help in a couple of subjects or something)one of my female class mates noticed that I was trying to work on that and she made a point on helping me.
-At the start her help consisted in just asking people until I realized that it wasnt a personal thing and that I should just move on instead of giving them a chance to laugh at me even further.
-Then she made a point on trying to find clothing that made me seem approachable which btw ended up being what most people my age were wearing. Nobody is asking you to become part of the cast of the jersey shore but a couple of trademark shirts from whatever is in there(around here its usually surf/snow/skate related tms but over there it might be soemthing completely different) probably wont hurt you.
- Then she asked me to pay attention to ho the characters on a sitcon/book acted when they were asking someone and try to imitate them.
It might seem like a lot of bs but it worked for me while I was able to keep it up(its quite tiringand it didnt attract the kind of people I usually like being around)
hyperlexian wrote:
Garath wrote:
ToadOfSteel wrote:
I wish I could forget... every failure, rejection, or just plain bad moment in my life replays over and over again in my head like a broken record. The process is involuntary, I just can't seem to stop it. And people wonder why i'm "depressed"...
I suffer from the same thing, and it's been a constant burden on any semblance of self-esteem i've had. So I can definately symphatize with facing that sh** every day. It's horrible, example I can sit in a class room, or having a beer with some guys from my uni or any situation, and suddenly the worst moments of my life can roll infront of my eyes for no apparent reason and there's no stopping it. It just makes you feel like finding some deep cave and hiding there forever...
yes, this is called ruminating and it is the flip side of worry, which focuses on future events. they are equally crippling, and rumination can feed into worry.
therapy can help. also meds can help. it gets to the point where failures become like obsessions in and of themselves. i don't have that problem with dating (been rejected A LOT), but i do have that problem with jobs. i feel like i failed at a job so i go for jobs with progressivly less responsibility (i am earning 33% less than i was 3 years ago).
it isn't something a person can turn off like a faucet. i think it can require a lot of hard work in an indirect way. i.e. working on the source of the problems and changing the actual thinking patterns.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumination ... chology%29
That rumination page makes sense, and it definitely feels like what I'm going through. The perfect long-term memory doesn't help things. I just feel as though I can't forgive myself for anything (even while I will forgive others in a heartbeat).
chrissyrun wrote:
pree10shun wrote:
Rejection is more painful if you have high expectations. Its better not to expect much even from close friends and relatives. I don't mean you should not work hard towards achieving something. I mean just don't have too many expectations.
You read my mind. Never expect too much of others, but always expect your best effort. As long as you tried the best you could, it's the world's problem and not yours.
The problem there is that I just can't ask someone out for the hell of it... I'm not even attracted to any particular woman unless I've known her for a while (and it doesn't feel serious until I can envision a future with said woman). So, essentially, every attempt carries significant weight. Trying to ask a woman out before having any feelings of attraction just feels awkward...