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14 Aug 2011, 12:41 am

minervx wrote:
Is this what this forum has come to?

I think so.

thank you for saying this. it's breaking my heart. i am starting to feel quite ill on here, like i am detested for being a woman. it has ups and down in here, but i think it is particularly bad right now.

EDIT: it is one thing to express a problem or situation. it is another thing to say "all women are _X_" or "women have it so easy".


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14 Aug 2011, 1:01 am

Maybe complaining is a matter of perspective & women perceive complaining differently than guys do. I've seen lots of post here by women that I thought were complaining about men & very few people called em on it but I've seen lots of post here by guys that were considered to be complaints when I really do not think that was the poster's intent


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14 Aug 2011, 1:07 am

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Maybe complaining is a matter of perspective & women perceive complaining differently than guys do. I've seen lots of post here by women that I thought were complaining about men & very few people called em on it but I've seen lots of post here by guys that were considered to be complaints when I really do not think that was the poster's intent

the OP is male.


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14 Aug 2011, 1:16 am

hyperlexian wrote:
nick007 wrote:
Maybe complaining is a matter of perspective & women perceive complaining differently than guys do. I've seen lots of post here by women that I thought were complaining about men & very few people called em on it but I've seen lots of post here by guys that were considered to be complaints when I really do not think that was the poster's intent

the OP is male.

I know but i'm talking about in general. He could be an exception


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14 Aug 2011, 1:32 am

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If you have people IRL to vent to great. Some do not. No one should be discouraged from expressing themselves as long as it is within forum rules. It is good that others are here to openly share experiences and gain different perspectives which hopefully will help us better understand the environments and or situations we might encounter.

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Also Why is it that when an NT woman makes a post talking about the problems she has with her Aspie guy; members are sympathetic to her but when an Aspie guy makes a post about the problems he faces trying to get dates with women; it's considered complaining :?:


That's not always the case. If an NT woman is trying to save her relationship, then I'm usually happy to attempt to help her provided I do not get the sense that she married him or started dating him knowing how he was, with the intention of trying to change him, however if I feel she knowingly married a man she is incompatible with, I point that out to her.

If a man with AS is talking about a problem they have with dating that pertains to themselves, or how to navigate a situation, or difficulty he might be having with his wife (provided I do not get the impression that he married a woman he is incompatible with), I am again, happy to try to help. However if he comes in here simply bashing, slandering, and attacking women, and making false claims, I take issue with it.

I'm willing to help those who are attempting to make positive changes in their lives or expand their social understanding, within reason. I'm not willing to help those who are seething with hate or are frustrated because they cannot mold a person into someone they want them to be. I won't, and I couldn't possibly because they're beyond help.



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14 Aug 2011, 8:20 am

Fnord wrote:
There can never be too many women!


Duh. :P



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14 Aug 2011, 8:57 am

I am sure the ventings are a way of acquiring information.



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14 Aug 2011, 9:05 am

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I am sure the ventings are a way of acquiring information.


They can be but what if they are provided with information and continue ranting as if they never were given the information in the first place? Just curious. >.>



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14 Aug 2011, 9:42 am

....and the whining about others' whining is also whining.



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14 Aug 2011, 9:53 am

Many a time on here I've seen a long, thoughtful response to an OP, full of sympathy and gentle suggestions on how to perhaps perceive things in a different light, or even suggestions of reasonable, positive, demonstrative action the OP could take to mitigate his (her) pain or anger or frustration. Right after these long posts comes a "Yeah! All women (men) DO suck!" And it's the short post that gets picked up and run with. The long, helpful post gets glossed right over.

Lather, rinse, repeat. I can almost pick an example a day. It makes me sure that the venting here is pure venting and not an attempt to assess and solve the situation.

I chalk the phenomenon up to youth (I was there once), but it is wholly disheartening for me to see this over and over again. No one is going to solve your problems for you. Society is never going to change to accommodate you.



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14 Aug 2011, 9:59 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
....and the whining about others' whining is also whining.


Touché! :)



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14 Aug 2011, 10:21 am

This is why I don't come here to get help in the dating department. I usually see this as it's the women's fault forum. I would never want to share a serious discussion at least not here.


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14 Aug 2011, 10:32 am

I think you people are being unfair toward the L&D.

The truth is, that the anti-women or whining_about_women threads (they do make a good portions, but that's not all) are what they get your attentions the most and are what they stay in your memory the most, but there's also plenty of other deals on the L&D.

and the repetitive complaining about this matter in specific is becoming as frequent and annoying as the other complaints and blaming threads



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14 Aug 2011, 10:34 am

Nothing's stopping the women complaining and venting about men more. :wink:



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14 Aug 2011, 10:49 am

Freak-Z wrote:
Nothing's stopping the women complaining and venting about men more. :wink:


Meh, I did that for a bit and I got bored. That and improving myself and luckily finding a nice bf cured that problem. :lol:



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14 Aug 2011, 11:00 am

This forum has a lot of complaining, from both sides. There are a lot of preconceptions, from both sides. I don't think there's going to be any change in that soon.


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