Why your life isn't over at 30
No, not over at 30; but at 30, the beginning of the end is in sight.
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somebody else is making me feel like my life has just begun. i'm actually looking forward to hitting 30. it used to feel like a ticking clock where i was desperate to change as quickly as possible in order to get things done. Now I'm looking forward to becoming more like my true self because for once I've been made to feel like it actually has some value.
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being not fat is an accomplishment in this country. you surely couldn't be any more TOFU than me [as an officially old fart]. and aside from 6 years i lived alone in my 20s [mostly when i was in the army] i lived with my parents until i was in my 40s. i was their caretaker for them in their old age. but if it weren't for living with them, i too would've been just a hermited reject like i am now. and i was a college drop-out as well, who [aside from a civil service job i lucked into in my late 20s after getting out of the army] has had only part-time odd jobs.
try being 20 years older and in the same boat. one gets used to it. there are many who have things much worse.
because i believe that if i don't finish this life [IOW stick around to the natural end, and learn from it what i am here to learn], then i will just have to live this life sometime in the future, when i just wanna finish it here and now, and get it over with. it is not optimism at work for me, but just determination to do the work i'm supposed to do in this life so i won't have to do it again. if it is my fate to be alone and poor until i push up the daisies,, so be it, as long as there is a heavenly reason. man can put up with any how, as long as there is a why.
I was told by a wiser source: "Different things happen for different people at different times of their lives". And I realised this is true. a 19 year old girl might have had 5 sexual partners, a high paying job, a great figure and confidence.. but you don't know what this persons life is going to be like in 10 years. They might be stuck in a marriage that's boring looking after kids for the next 20 years. Doesn't sound like much of a life for me.
Whereas some peoples lives come alive later than others. This is what I'm striving to happen for me.
I would cry to Mum in my 20s (YES, recently) about these 19 year olds with high paying jobs and great figures and friends. And mum says "LIFE'S NOT FAIR BUT WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND".
I have to agree. To modify a famous quote, you can have all of the good things some of the time, some of the good things all of the time, but you can't have all of the good things all of the time.
I run into just as many women who didn't go to college, got married and had kids instead, who wish they instead went to college and got a career, as I do women who went to college and got a career but wish they married and had kids instead.
Or another scenario, I run into just as many people who didn't go to college and wish they did, as I do people who went to college and wish they just got a job instead.
HAHA! I love this thread.
But is should read: Life begins at 30!
My teens and twenties were miserable. I didn't really wake up and start living until I was 31 or 32. I was a scrawny, sickly kid. Depressed all the time. Wanted to DO things, but didn't have much of any skills, coordination, strength or endurance. And definitely had NO social skills.
Thinking about AS as being (literally) a social ret*d, around 30 is when you start to catch up with the NTs. Mind you, ret*d means "slower," literally. So when I was about 30 in my body, I was bout 16 in my brain. I started having fun when I went out, actual FUN. I started enjoying other people's company, instead of being stressed out trying to understand the facial expressions, body language and such. So I had the excitement and exuberance of a 16 year old kid, but had slowly developed the strength and coordination to do major projects. Like hand pulling 1000 silkscreen prints in a day. Or dancing (mosh pit body surfing) for 14 hours straight. Or biking for 80 miles in a day pulling an 80 lb load.
And I had skills. Lots and lots of skills by that point. The old adage "can't teach and old dog new tricks" is total rubbish. Learning how to learn is a skill in and of itself. And it gets easier, much easier, to pick up new skills as you mature. Now I feel like anything I want to do, I can make happen. I built a guitar last year, having never done anything like that before. Just decided to do it, and a couple months later it was done. The 20-nothing kids were mystified.
The only drawback to aging is agism. Kids that think life ends at 30 and want to blow you off.
But is should read: Life begins at 30!
My teens and twenties were miserable. I didn't really wake up and start living until I was 31 or 32. I was a scrawny, sickly kid. Depressed all the time. Wanted to DO things, but didn't have much of any skills, coordination, strength or endurance. And definitely had NO social skills.
Thinking about AS as being (literally) a social ret*d, around 30 is when you start to catch up with the NTs. Mind you, ret*d means "slower," literally. So when I was about 30 in my body, I was bout 16 in my brain. I started having fun when I went out, actual FUN. I started enjoying other people's company, instead of being stressed out trying to understand the facial expressions, body language and such. So I had the excitement and exuberance of a 16 year old kid, but had slowly developed the strength and coordination to do major projects. Like hand pulling 1000 silkscreen prints in a day. Or dancing (mosh pit body surfing) for 14 hours straight. Or biking for 80 miles in a day pulling an 80 lb load.
And I had skills. Lots and lots of skills by that point. The old adage "can't teach and old dog new tricks" is total rubbish. Learning how to learn is a skill in and of itself. And it gets easier, much easier, to pick up new skills as you mature. Now I feel like anything I want to do, I can make happen. I built a guitar last year, having never done anything like that before. Just decided to do it, and a couple months later it was done. The 20-nothing kids were mystified.
The only drawback to aging is agism. Kids that think life ends at 30 and want to blow you off.
cheers for this great post Burnbridge! I'm terrified of turning 30, since like someone above have mentioned, the end comes to sight you've made me feel a tad less so.
I'd only add that a big part of the change you write about is the change in your peers' attitudes too - I've noticed that as soon as my peers had stopped being all about coolness and appearances, they've mellowed out and finally became "approachable". I'm hoping to see even more of that as I get older.
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For huge masses of people in my free amateur psychology practice, the first 25 years are for physical and mental development, producing children and pairing up. The rest of life is all about the mind, the personality, the wisdom, self discovery, self enrichment.
If all you care about is physical attraction, sports, and other such high energy performance based stuff, you life does end at 30.
After that, your sex drive goes away drastically for male and female, and you can begin to think more rationally without so many hormones getting in the way. That is, until the menopause/andropause comes around. After that, all that matters is keeping sane while you slowly fade away.
For us, life probably does begin at 30. I can't wait to find out. No, scratch that, I can wait!
If all you care about is physical attraction, sports, and other such high energy performance based stuff, you life does end at 30.
After that, your sex drive goes away drastically for male and female, and you can begin to think more rationally without so many hormones getting in the way. That is, until the menopause/andropause comes around. After that, all that matters is keeping sane while you slowly fade away.
For us, life probably does begin at 30. I can't wait to find out. No, scratch that, I can wait!
Except if the sex drive goes away, even if i were to find a girlfriend/future wife that actually wanted me back, how would I be able to fulfill my dreams of starting a family?
If all you care about is physical attraction, sports, and other such high energy performance based stuff, you life does end at 30.
After that, your sex drive goes away drastically for male and female, and you can begin to think more rationally without so many hormones getting in the way. That is, until the menopause/andropause comes around. After that, all that matters is keeping sane while you slowly fade away.
For us, life probably does begin at 30. I can't wait to find out. No, scratch that, I can wait!
Except if the sex drive goes away, even if i were to find a girlfriend/future wife that actually wanted me back, how would I be able to fulfill my dreams of starting a family?
Don't worry, Toad, it doesn't go away, it just dials back a bit. Or, not at all, for some broads...
or for some women it becomes comparable to a teenaged boy's!! !!
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A cartoon that I saw years ago (hagar the horrible, I think) shows the main character sadly stating "I'm not as young as I used to be" but then stopping and thinking about it, he says "But I'm not as old as I'm gonna be!"
And then I remember that Josph Conrad didn't publish his first novel until he was 60.
Life is just what you are doing right now. If you do nothing, that is all that you can think of and that is all your life will be. Do something interesting right now and you will be alive in that moment and all the other moments that you are actively engaged in your own life. It's not always easy. It takes work to be actively alive. But in the end, what are your options? Do something or do nothing.
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RE: the thread topic, being over 30 is like being in your 20s. you feel the same only your body is a little older.
It is like being forever about 18 inside but all these people who you thought were younger than you start getting older and you stay the same.
Such as when I went to a family birthday party and realised that the boy cousins who were toddlers in nappies when I was starting university are now all 6"2 and I cant believe they are now men towering over me.
A bit unnerving, and I am finding my upcoming birthday pretty unnerving too, it is the first birthday I remember feeling this sense of panic.
But there are good things about being in your thirties. 3 is a prettier number than 2 for starters. And 34 is prettier than 33, though I did like the symmetry when I turned 33 last year.
But anyway, life goes on and we get older and there is no way to slow it down, besides get cryogenically frozen or something like that.
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