What do other aspies do that makes you mad?

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21 Sep 2011, 12:36 am

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Blame women and ignore the fact that they have unappealing qualities.


Thinking hot woman should be obligated to date them or at least give them a shot even if they are over weight, creepy, or stinky.


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21 Sep 2011, 12:41 am

hale_bopp wrote:
Blame women and ignore the fact that they have unappealing qualities.


is this directed at me? If so then it's wrong. I've stated numerous times that I lack any qualities that would attract women.



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21 Sep 2011, 12:46 am

anneurysm wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Blame women and ignore the fact that they have unappealing qualities.


This. Or when they paint all women with the same biased brush because they are unable to get dates. The problem isn't with the women, it's their attitudes.

There is nothing more unattractive than a guy who generalizes and thinks you'll act in certain ways when they've never even met you.


It's not because of my attitude, it's because of me being a pathetic bum. I'm ugly, slow, poor, un-charismatic, uneducated, friendless and jobless. I'm a 25 year old hermit that does nothing but sit in the house, watch anime, porn, and play video games all day.

That's why I'm hopeless at dating



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21 Sep 2011, 1:07 am

AsteroidNap wrote:
Using AS as an excuse for bad behavior.
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b]agree[/b]

Focusing to much on the negative aspects of AS.

Not having friends and not being able to socialize effectively with other people is a pretty big negative. Besides, I have a ton of other things wrong with me, AS is just a part of it

Using AS as a reason for self-pity.

I have plenty of reasons to feel sorry for myself, and it pretty hard not too. AS is just one of those reasons.

Asking for advice, but never taking it.

As if the half-baked advice people give out here works. BS. Like it's going to get people like me more and cause me to have friends. Like it's going to stop me from feeling depressed, miserable, angry, and despair all the time. I'm hopeless and pathetic, and nothing is going to change that.



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21 Sep 2011, 1:14 am

MR20 wrote:
anneurysm wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Blame women and ignore the fact that they have unappealing qualities.


This. Or when they paint all women with the same biased brush because they are unable to get dates. The problem isn't with the women, it's their attitudes.

There is nothing more unattractive than a guy who generalizes and thinks you'll act in certain ways when they've never even met you.


It's not because of my attitude, it's because of me being a pathetic bum. I'm ugly, slow, poor, un-charismatic, uneducated, friendless and jobless. I'm a 25 year old hermit that does nothing but sit in the house, watch anime, porn, and play video games all day.

That's why I'm hopeless at dating


I find it very ironic that you're trying to refute the fact that you have this attitude when this is a perfect example of exactly what I'm taking about.

Simply put, you have an attitude of hopelessness. You keep posting the same things over and over again without taking any advice from us and not even trying to work on one thing at a time.

It becomes frustrating for people like myself who sees this stuff happen all the time to people on the spectrum and it hurts me that I can't do anything about it. I genuinely care for people with it and hate to see people with very little support end up in situations like yours.

However...your constant posting about your problems needs to lessen or stop. It is not helping you get the things you want in the real world in any way. The magic girlfriend angel is not going to come down and give you everything you need.

Not only that, it derails other topics and makes them all about you. You are NOT the only one going through these problems. I have an anxiety disorder with depressive symptoms and it is a genuine struggle to get out of bed in the morning. Do I just give up because of all the other times I failed to get up. NO!

It makes us posters not want to do anything to help you, because we're trying the best we can to do so.

We give you solid advice, and you just dismiss us.

Sometimes, I wonder if you even want help, or if you are just venting. Your problems are very easy to fix. Refusing to do anything about them or making excuses to avoid doing the hard work will NOT get you anywhere.

/rant


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21 Sep 2011, 1:16 am

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What do other Aspies do that makes you mad?

1. Believe in fantasy concepts as if they were real.

2. Believe that only their point of view matters.

3. Believe that their situations are hopeless.

4. Use the threat of suicide as a means of gaining attention.

5. Believe that being an Aspie excuses them of being responsible for illegal acts.

6. Behave as a grotesque caricature of the worst sort of Entie, while simultaneously bashing Enties for the same behavior.

7. Use crude language as a means of gaining attention.

8. Believe that being an Aspie has a causal connection with issues of gender identity.

9. Believe that all Aspies are the same.

10. Believe that all Enties are the same.


... that'll do for a start ... more later ...


#9 is something I noticed a lot. Same thing on other websites devoted to disorders.



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21 Sep 2011, 1:18 am

MR20 wrote:
AsteroidNap wrote:
Using AS as an excuse for bad behavior.
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b]agree[/b]

Focusing to much on the negative aspects of AS.

Not having friends and not being able to socialize effectively with other people is a pretty big negative. Besides, I have a ton of other things wrong with me, AS is just a part of it

Using AS as a reason for self-pity.

I have plenty of reasons to feel sorry for myself, and it pretty hard not too. AS is just one of those reasons.

Asking for advice, but never taking it.

As if the half-baked advice people give out here works. BS. Like it's going to get people like me more and cause me to have friends. Like it's going to stop me from feeling depressed, miserable, angry, and despair all the time. I'm hopeless and pathetic, and nothing is going to change that.


This was a thread about what we dislike. Not another thread for ranting. If you don't like advice, then why are you here in the L&D section? Seriously.



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21 Sep 2011, 1:33 am

CaptainTrips222 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
RightGalaxy wrote:
What do other Aspies do that makes you mad?

1. Believe in fantasy concepts as if they were real.

2. Believe that only their point of view matters.

3. Believe that their situations are hopeless.

4. Use the threat of suicide as a means of gaining attention.

5. Believe that being an Aspie excuses them of being responsible for illegal acts.

6. Behave as a grotesque caricature of the worst sort of Entie, while simultaneously bashing Enties for the same behavior.

7. Use crude language as a means of gaining attention.

8. Believe that being an Aspie has a causal connection with issues of gender identity.

9. Believe that all Aspies are the same.

10. Believe that all Enties are the same.


... that'll do for a start ... more later ...


#9 is something I noticed a lot. Same thing on other websites devoted to disorders.


I see #9 all the time here...but it could be caused by a lack of theory of mind. I also see posters only see an experience solely from their point of view and believe that the person's situations in each thread are equal to theirs. This doesn't annoy me, but it is a general trend I have noticed.


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My diagnoses - social anxiety disorder and obsessive-compulsive disorder.

I’m no longer involved with the ASD world.


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21 Sep 2011, 3:16 am

The elitism mindset and discrimination against "NT's". In some cases it seems so extreme to me that I can draw parallels with Nazi Germany. This really angers and upsets me. Every person is unique. There is no "us" versus "them" in any context.


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21 Sep 2011, 3:27 am

Joker wrote:
When they always complain about never having a girlfriend or a boyfriend.

That gets on me nerves the msot :lol:


spoken by one who claims to have the "luck of the irish" in this regard. such fortunate people who belittle struggling INCELS just burns me up. :x it is like a rich person born with a silver spoon in his mouth belittling a working class person for being insufficiently with-it to escape poverty. :roll: hell is indeed other people. :hmph:
i can't help but believe that if the shoe were on the other foot, the anti-complaint league would change its tune real quicklike. a strain of coldbloodedness and hypocrisy runs deep in too many of the high-functioning AS types here.



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21 Sep 2011, 4:26 am

auntblabby wrote:
Joker wrote:
When they always complain about never having a girlfriend or a boyfriend.

That gets on me nerves the msot :lol:


spoken by one who claims to have the "luck of the irish" in this regard. such fortunate people who belittle struggling INCELS just burns me up. :x it is like a rich person born with a silver spoon in his mouth belittling a working class person for being insufficiently with-it to escape poverty. :roll: hell is indeed other people. :hmph:
i can't help but believe that if the shoe were on the other foot, the anti-complaint league would change its tune real quicklike. a strain of coldbloodedness and hypocrisy runs deep in too many of the high-functioning AS types here.


It's not so much those who are complaining. It's that the complaining isn't constructive. At all. Complaining gets one nowhere. Unless you're complaining to the customer service dept of some business. But people, and society, aren't businesses. Constant complaining will get you nowhere in life. One needs action. Need I remind you: "Be the change you want to see in the world" -- Gandhi.

Ostensibly people come to these fora for advice about AS, about dealing with issues related to dating, careers, and relationships, etc. I know I've come here for that, and to help others if I can. I didn't come here to complain, or to read a litany of complaints. Sure, the occasional person might need to blow off steam...that's understandable; and I sympathize with that, and can offer support. But the inundating, repetitive complaints against generalized demographics is so much b.s. To be complicit in that, without speaking up, is to enable that negative world view to the detriment of the speaker.



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21 Sep 2011, 4:45 am

They don't make me angry but the surrender monkeys, I don't know, make me chuckle. I was the same when I was young. I was in a box and if someone tried to describe the world outside the box or how to escape I would be skeptical and not see how that news related to me at all.

It must be that some people have to escape their own box, in their own time.



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21 Sep 2011, 4:53 am

simon_says wrote:
It must be that everyone has to escape their own box, in their own time.


I'm growing to suspect this too. I had to hit absolute rock bottom before I changed. I'm guessing attempts to help others void that horrible pit (or worse) are misplaced. Cognitive Dissonance, or whatever it is, likely has to be forcefully broken.



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21 Sep 2011, 5:00 am

sunshower wrote:
The elitism mindset and discrimination against "NT's". In some cases it seems so extreme to me that I can draw parallels with Nazi Germany. This really angers and upsets me. Every person is unique. There is no "us" versus "them" in any context.


Yeah this sucks. People who do this are morons.



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21 Sep 2011, 5:03 am

AsteroidNap wrote:
It's not so much those who are complaining. It's that the complaining isn't constructive. At all. Complaining gets one nowhere. Unless you're complaining to the customer service dept of some business. But people, and society, aren't businesses. Constant complaining will get you nowhere in life. One needs action. Need I remind you: "Be the change you want to see in the world" -- Gandhi.

more often than not, that is akin to the right-wing meme about "jerking oneself up by one's own bootstraps" which is physically improbable at best. complaining is a release valve for intractible and unavoidable pain, and as a fellow [but highly imperfect] human i consider it a golden rule thing to at least try to listen to another human who is in pain. people can cope better with an unavoidable pain if they can kvetch about it at least. i would expect the same treatment if i were ailing, so how could i refuse such a simple and vulnerable human request? if you were in pain would you not feel the urge to cry out? "being the change" i want to see in the world means listening to people complain when nobody else will listen or give an iota, the same way i want to be treated by others. to not do so is cold at best, hypocritically cruel at worst. god bless WP for having forums for people to vent in. kindness means not complaining about people complaining [of which is akin to taking offense at crying infants]. we adults are still infants at times about some things beyond our ken.

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To be complicit in that, without speaking up, is to enable that negative world view to the detriment of the speaker.


what does it cost you if somebody is a complainer? you can always turn a deaf ear or a blind eye to it, this costs you nothing. a "negative world view" exists in some people regardless of your approval of it [or them].



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21 Sep 2011, 5:19 am

They don't make me mad.

I make them mad.