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31 Oct 2011, 10:37 pm

^ Thanks. I can actually see some cobblestones out the window right now....


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31 Oct 2011, 10:41 pm

Whaaa?

A bastardization of evolutionary theory to serve sexist inclinations?

Whoda thunk it?


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01 Nov 2011, 3:24 am

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People who get laid take action, they don't devise complicated and intense theories about why a certain gender is worse off, or why certain people act the way they do.


Yes we do... Do you know anything about men? We love theorising, experimenting, reporting about ANYTHING that interests us, why should this be any different?


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01 Nov 2011, 3:40 am

Theorising, reporting and analysing is one thing, but some people can really get lost down a rabbit hole with it and end up with some pretty bizarre results.


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01 Nov 2011, 3:42 am

lilypadfad wrote:
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People who get laid take action, they don't devise complicated and intense theories about why a certain gender is worse off, or why certain people act the way they do.


Yes we do... Do you know anything about men? We love theorising, experimenting, reporting about ANYTHING that interests us, why should this be any different?

What she is saying is: this theories are said to be written by males that have success with ladies.
If said males actually had success with ladies they'd spend their time picking up chicks and not developing PUA theories nobody cares about online


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01 Nov 2011, 4:12 am

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If said males actually had success with ladies they'd spend their time picking up chicks and not developing PUA theories nobody cares about online


Sounds like a rather sexist stereotype *snickers*. Do you also believe men think about sex every 7 seconds?


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01 Nov 2011, 4:20 am

lilypadfad wrote:
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If said males actually had success with ladies they'd spend their time picking up chicks and not developing PUA theories nobody cares about online


Sounds like a rather sexist stereotype *snickers*. Do you also believe men think about sex every 7 seconds?

I dont believe that but if someone claims that they can do 10000000000 digits calculations in their head and then I see them using a calculator at all times I call on their bs.

Same way stereotypes about females marrying up... have been allowed because they dont represent a majority this is allowed because most males arent writing theories.

If you wish I can remove every stereotype from your OP and remove it from my post but I dont feel like doing such hard work at the moment.


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01 Nov 2011, 4:24 am

Not at all :) Fire away with the stereotypes :D


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01 Nov 2011, 4:57 am

lilypadfad wrote:
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People who get laid take action, they don't devise complicated and intense theories about why a certain gender is worse off, or why certain people act the way they do.


Yes we do... Do you know anything about men? We love theorising, experimenting, reporting about ANYTHING that interests us, why should this be any different?


Not all men are like that. Actually, Most of the men I've met aren't intense at all and don't go on and on about stuff trying to twist it and make it someone else's fault.



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01 Nov 2011, 5:11 am

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Same way stereotypes about females marrying up... have been allowed because they dont represent a majority this is allowed because most males arent writing theories.


but the females who marry up (marrying a guy who's either more educated/healthier/stronger... or at least financially) are of the majority, spongy.

And stereotypes are usually based on majorities.



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01 Nov 2011, 5:33 am

Is it just me or am I the only one who saw the whole "women marry up" comments as

"women in general are lower quality than men, or are worth less on this planet than men"?

Why don't men marry up? Maybe men go for women who can cook well when they can't even open a can of beans. Is that marrying up?



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01 Nov 2011, 5:39 am

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Same way stereotypes about females marrying up... have been allowed because they dont represent a majority this is allowed because most males arent writing theories.


but the females who marry up (marrying a guy who's either more educated/healthier/stronger... or at least financially) are of the majority, spongy.

And stereotypes are usually based on majorities.

How many females do you know that went to business careers?, thats what that stereotype was about and therefore it applied to a minority since most females choose other career paths.


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01 Nov 2011, 5:45 am

PUA threads are like chasing the feather, if you chase after it, your actions blow the feather away.... raise your stock

Women have got hyper radar when they meet a possible BF/husband for the very first time.....

Today I had 2x 19yr old art school girls giving me verbal grief to test my mettle. In the instant I saw their scrutiny and squared up to them bravely....and ended up winning by power of energy..... my wit, then the cute American one became very friendly to me :oops: .....(till her BF came in anyway)

No advice can compare to being in the moment, it is a dance like wild animals courting..... with a lead and a follow, a give and a take, a mirroring.....a sharing and thrust and parry beyond words.... 2 souls looking for a moments shelter amidst the drudgery of everyday affairs, and masses of stifled sad people.... wandering about like weary hungry ghosts unable to place earthly food in their tired transparent mouths.

Energy is what a woman usually desires in a man, on it she can also feed. Nature has programmed woman to go to the energy, so the dance may be long and enduring, and the love child full of energy



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01 Nov 2011, 5:54 am

spongy wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Same way stereotypes about females marrying up... have been allowed because they dont represent a majority this is allowed because most males arent writing theories.


but the females who marry up (marrying a guy who's either more educated/healthier/stronger... or at least financially) are of the majority, spongy.

And stereotypes are usually based on majorities.

How many females do you know that went to business careers?, thats what that stereotype was about and therefore it applied to a minority since most females choose other career paths.



A lot, when I was first hired (and it was a new start-up back then), there were more young girls than young guys at my workplace, for about 2:1. Most of the girls were highly educated and had careers or at least very promising careers, but at least 80% left work after marrying.
The only one who married and stayed was actually the secretary, and her husband is in mid-career and of the same age, I can say the same about my university colleagues.

And before you say the word Middle-east or Lebanon:

read this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... h-man.html

and this: http://www.time.com/time/health/article ... 66,00.html

if that trend is true in such developed countries, then let alone the Middle-east and Africa.

I am not telling you to be pro-lilly views, but don't be a blind idealist too, have some grasp of reality.



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01 Nov 2011, 6:21 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

And stereotypes are usually based on majorities.


not really. I can't find the source I'm thinking about now but I remember it said that in cases of most stereotypes (particularly national) the stereotype was most often a trait possessed by around 30% of the population. the remaining 70% wouldn't have that trait in a large enough degree to fall under the stereotype. but since the 70% is so varied and the 30% is homogenous, they appear to be the "majority". stereotyping is just a cognitive bias.


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01 Nov 2011, 6:28 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
spongy wrote:
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Same way stereotypes about females marrying up... have been allowed because they dont represent a majority this is allowed because most males arent writing theories.


but the females who marry up (marrying a guy who's either more educated/healthier/stronger... or at least financially) are of the majority, spongy.

And stereotypes are usually based on majorities.

How many females do you know that went to business careers?, thats what that stereotype was about and therefore it applied to a minority since most females choose other career paths.



A lot, when I was first hired (and it was a new start-up back then), there were more young girls than young guys at my workplace, for about 2:1. Most of the girls were highly educated and had careers or at least very promising careers, but at least 80% left work after marrying.
The only one who married and stayed was actually the secretary, and her husband is in mid-career and of the same age, I can say the same about my university colleagues.

And before you say the word Middle-east or Lebanon:

read this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... h-man.html

and this: http://www.time.com/time/health/article ... 66,00.html

if that trend is true in such developed countries, then let alone the Middle-east and Africa.

I am not telling you to be pro-lilly views, but don't be a blind idealist too, have some grasp of reality.


Im not denying that it happens on certain fields but business is one of the fields with less growth in the past 10 years http://womeninbusiness.about.com/od/cha ... mendom.htm so females on business careers are sadly still a minority.


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