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06 Dec 2011, 11:12 am

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Me personally, I think an Asian wife would be in most cases better. Dave Chapelle also agrees with me on this, he's got an Asian wife.

Better? Maybe ... if you're looking for respect, affection, devotion and concern for your emotional and physical welfare, then I guess they're alright. I mean, if I were the type of man who needed his every thought, word, and deed questioned and disputed, then I'd be more than happy to have a wife of European ancestry; but since I can think for myself, know how to speak, and am capable of doing things on my own and getting them done, then I guess I'll just have to stay married to my lovely Asian wife.

We all have our burdens to bear...
I'm tempted to say, "Wow, hater much?" But then I'm of European ancestry... :wink:

My parents were of European stock; dad had BPD, Bipolar Disorder, and alcoholism. My ex-wife was 1st generation European - one parent came from Ireland (Ulster), and the other came from Poland. She had BPD, Bipolar Disorder, and alcoholism (just like my dad - I thought she was normal). I grew up in a town that was almost entirely of European stock, and they treated me like I was ret*d and "spastic". I could get dates with non-whites, but white women always seemed to be looking for "something better".

My wife and her family were the first group of people - a large group of people - to treat me as something of an equal. It may have something to do with my Aspieness presenting as more formal mannerisms than most other white folk seem to display. Maybe it's because I showed respect for their elders without having to be told.

Maybe I was Asian in a past life ( ;) ) - not that I believe in that sort of thing.


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06 Dec 2011, 11:37 am

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Me personally, I think an Asian wife would be in most cases better. Dave Chapelle also agrees with me on this, he's got an Asian wife.

Better? Maybe ... if you're looking for respect, affection, devotion and concern for your emotional and physical welfare, then I guess they're alright. I mean, if I were the type of man who needed his every thought, word, and deed questioned and disputed, then I'd be more than happy to have a wife of European ancestry; but since I can think for myself, know how to speak, and am capable of doing things on my own and getting them done, then I guess I'll just have to stay married to my lovely Asian wife.

We all have our burdens to bear...
I'm tempted to say, "Wow, hater much?" But then I'm of European ancestry... :wink:

My parents were of European stock; dad had BPD, Bipolar Disorder, and alcoholism. My ex-wife was 1st generation European - one parent came from Ireland (Ulster), and the other came from Poland. She had BPD, Bipolar Disorder, and alcoholism (just like my dad - I thought she was normal). I grew up in a town that was almost entirely of European stock, and they treated me like I was ret*d and "spastic". I could get dates with non-whites, but white women always seemed to be looking for "something better".

My wife and her family were the first group of people - a large group of people - to treat me as something of an equal. It may have something to do with my Aspieness presenting as more formal mannerisms than most other white folk seem to display. Maybe it's because I showed respect for their elders without having to be told.

Maybe I was Asian in a past life ( ;) ) - not that I believe in that sort of thing.


I think it's wonderful that you found a place that was accepting, regardless of whether their acceptance was part of being of their heritage.

Me, I just want to be Asian in my next life so I'll have a tiny ass. Is that so wrong? {P.S. I'm kidding; I know "Asian"s come in all body types}



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06 Dec 2011, 11:42 am

so, Fnord, you had problems with individuals from a group of people judging you and discriminating against you (Europeans, and women specifically)...

...and so you turn around and judge/discriminate against that entire group?


i find that quite hilarious. there really isn't any single racial, ethnic, or cultural group (or gender) that can be categorised by behaviour as you have tried to do.


personally, i like to be treated as an equal, in a relationship of mutual respect, devotion, and concern for emotional and physical welfare. it's not a certain race that does that better than any other.


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06 Dec 2011, 1:22 pm

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so, Fnord, you had problems with individuals from a group of people judging you and discriminating against you (Europeans, and women specifically)... ...and so you turn around and judge/discriminate against that entire group?

More like I had so many bad experiences with whites that I now avoid them whenever possible.

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i find that quite hilarious. there really isn't any single racial, ethnic, or cultural group (or gender) that can be categorised by behaviour as you have tried to do.

Experience has shown me that I can. If there had been a group of white NTs that had accepted me as I was, then maybe I'd be more inclined to seek whites out as friends. As it is, I feel a knot growing in my stomach just thinking about it.

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personally, i like to be treated as an equal, in a relationship of mutual respect, devotion, and concern for emotional and physical welfare. it's not a certain race that does that better than any other.

Me too. Had they treated me better, I'd have a better opinion of them, but it's an emotional thing that goes way deep. Since I'm in my mid-fifties, how many years of therapy do you think it would take to unlearn this prejudice? More years than I have left, I'd wager, so why bother?

I am sorry - I don't mean to offend anyone, but since my prejudice was not reasoned in, how can it possibly be reasoned out?


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06 Dec 2011, 1:35 pm

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Me too. Had they treated me better, I'd have a better opinion of them, but it's an emotional thing that goes way deep. Since I'm in my mid-fifties, how many years of therapy do you think it would take to unlearn this prejudice? More years than I have left, I'd wager, so why bother?

I am sorry - I don't mean to offend anyone, but since my prejudice was not reasoned in, how can it possibly be reasoned out?

why change? because prejudice is like a cancer that eats away at you, and yet unlike a cancer it also hurts other people.

but honestly... i wouldn't advise therapy has to be for that purpose as it's just a byproduct of otehr experiences, but you seem to have a lot of unresolved anger towards people that used to be in your life, and that will affect the quality of your life every day. since you have identified the source of hurt, you have started on the path to healing already. but therapy can help you to move on from some of that.


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06 Dec 2011, 1:45 pm

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Since I'm in my mid-fifties, how many years of therapy do you think it would take to unlearn this prejudice? More years than I have left, I'd wager, so why bother?


There is no such thing as failed self-improvement. Even if one does not meet his goals, he is still a better, stronger, man for trying.

My gf was so mad when I introduced her to my family by saying "Look Dad! I got me one of them white b*****s!"


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06 Dec 2011, 1:46 pm

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personally, i like to be treated as an equal, in a relationship of mutual respect, devotion, and concern for emotional and physical welfare. it's not a certain race that does that better than any other.


Maybe this is off topic, but Hyperlexi, you make absurd demands! It sounds like you want to share actual real love with an actual real human who is more than a cardboard cutout sterotype! That's crazy talk!


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06 Dec 2011, 1:49 pm

all these "i want a XXXXXX wofe" threads reminds me of something. Im not really attracted to most ethnicities besides white women. And its not because of prejudice (considering im not even white myself) but on average im not attracted to them. Thats not to say theres a select few that are very hot.



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06 Dec 2011, 1:52 pm

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personally, i like to be treated as an equal, in a relationship of mutual respect, devotion, and concern for emotional and physical welfare. it's not a certain race that does that better than any other.


Maybe this is off topic, but Hyperlexi, you make absurd demands! It sounds like you want to share actual real love with an actual real human who is more than a cardboard cutout sterotype! That's crazy talk!

:lol: i know, i know. i'm high maintenance!! !


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06 Dec 2011, 2:23 pm

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personally, i like to be treated as an equal, in a relationship of mutual respect, devotion, and concern for emotional and physical welfare. it's not a certain race that does that better than any other.


Maybe this is off topic, but Hyperlexi, you make absurd demands! It sounds like you want to share actual real love with an actual real human who is more than a cardboard cutout sterotype! That's crazy talk!

:lol: i know, i know. i'm high maintenance!! !


Why can't you just have a completely irrational desire to acquire any mate in your chosen color preference like everyone else? How about green? Green is a nice color.
ImageThat guy's a hunk, right???


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06 Dec 2011, 2:27 pm

Burnbridge wrote:
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personally, i like to be treated as an equal, in a relationship of mutual respect, devotion, and concern for emotional and physical welfare. it's not a certain race that does that better than any other.


Maybe this is off topic, but Hyperlexi, you make absurd demands! It sounds like you want to share actual real love with an actual real human who is more than a cardboard cutout sterotype! That's crazy talk!

:lol: i know, i know. i'm high maintenance!! !


Why can't you just have a completely irrational desire to acquire any mate in your chosen color preference like everyone else? How about green? Green is a nice color.
ImageThat guy's a hunk, right???

i don't think he could handle me ;)


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06 Dec 2011, 2:29 pm

A hot Russian babe for me, like from the Bond movies!



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06 Dec 2011, 2:31 pm

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A hot Russian babe for me, like from the Bond movies!


Line Xenia Onatopp? She likes it rough. Waaaaaaay rough.



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06 Dec 2011, 2:32 pm

I want an orange spoon with a faded image of a cartoon duck on it.


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06 Dec 2011, 2:39 pm

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I want an orange spoon with a faded image of a cartoon duck on it.


I'm having visions of a future ... of a Love & Dating subforum filled with glorious topics like that.


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06 Dec 2011, 2:41 pm

I want a White iPod.