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13 Dec 2011, 2:22 am

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What decent looking women would go out with someone who looks like that. NTM my other flaws.


Yes, women are more visual than men and if you show them that you're a fun guy or create some kind of emotional response in them, you could easily be in with a chance. You just need to have self belief and confidence in yourself.

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Would you say the guy in the photo is as attractive as Brad Pitt? Of course not but he has had many partners because he has confidence in himself and the willpower to take the initiative.



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13 Dec 2011, 2:50 am

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What decent looking women would go out with someone who looks like that. NTM my other flaws.


Yes, women are more visual than men and if you show them that you're a fun guy or create some kind of emotional response in them, you could easily be in with a chance. You just need to have self belief and confidence in yourself.

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Would you say the guy in the photo is as attractive as Brad Pitt? Of course not but he has had many partners because he has confidence in himself and the willpower to take the initiative.


We seem to be operating on different wavelengths. You just compared me to a talented and rich douche nozzle who's completely full of himself. I'm very sure his fame, talent at basketball, and money didn't hinder him in attracting women (or whatever else) to him.

We are nothing alike.

I don't have anything to draw confidence from, it's like a foreign concept to me. People keep acting like it's to get and/or fake (no clue how)



I don't do well in the looks department, so I can't hang my hat on that.

I'm not what you would call "intelligent"

I don't have any useful skills and/or talents to be proud of.

I'm not pleasant to be around, and I'm not that interesting of a person to talk to.

I was in special ed until I drop out in the 9th after repeating.

I can barely do simple things like bathe and change clothes everyday. (can't even drive)

I basically haven't accomplished anything worthwhile in my life thus far.

NOTHING about me says confidence. Heck how does a person like me even become confident?



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13 Dec 2011, 5:03 am

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To be honest, I don't really see any improvement in the photo quality.


Does this really matter?

You can still tell whether he's good looking or not.



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13 Dec 2011, 9:49 am

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NOTHING about me says confidence. Heck how does a person like me even become confident?

I don't know. I've faced the same problem.... Hmmm... Well I am definitely not confident at all - but I am not as self-hating as I used to be. Why? Surprise! It's medication.

I know other people would say to improve yourself in other areas before tackling dating but... Yeah, self-improvement isn't so easy either. Maybe the best you can do is just accept yourself as an inferior specimen and just try to take whatever pleasures you can from your pathetic life. I guess that's not too far from what I'm doing. I'm still trying to succeed at my goal, but it's not going too well. I dunno....

Well hey, at least some day we'll all die! Yay!

I'm not trying to make light of your suffering. I remember the depths of my own depression, and it can be downright excruciating - with no hope to ever improve. But who knows what the future will bring. Maybe something good?



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13 Dec 2011, 11:39 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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To be honest, I don't really see any improvement in the photo quality.


Does this really matter?

You can still tell whether he's good looking or not.


The title of this thread is: "I got a somewhat better camera". But I don't find the photos much better.

As for his physical appearance, he already knows what I think about it. He's not Blair Underwood, but he's not fugly either. His physical appearance isn't the problem here. Though I think he should practice smiling.



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13 Dec 2011, 11:52 am

I expected to see someone who looked like a tramp, but nothing disgusted me about your photo at all - you look very average. Nothing particularly stands out.



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13 Dec 2011, 1:53 pm

deconstruction wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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To be honest, I don't really see any improvement in the photo quality.


Does this really matter?

You can still tell whether he's good looking or not.


The title of this thread is: "I got a somewhat better camera". But I don't find the photos much better.

As for his physical appearance, he already knows what I think about it. He's not Blair Underwood, but he's not fugly either. His physical appearance isn't the problem here. Though I think he should practice smiling.


It isn't JUST my physical appearance that gives me problems, although it plays a major factor.

With the way I look, people just can't take someone like me seriously or look at them as their equal.

People have said just by looking at me they can tell I don't have it all mentally. In a world where first impressions is crucial and perception is reality, I've already lost the first battle. (that's with friends and dating )



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13 Dec 2011, 2:29 pm

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NOTHING about me says confidence. Heck how does a person like me even become confident?


Well, do something that'll make you confident. For me, I've started various things like ice skating and weight lifting and stuff, find something to get good at and skilled at, so you can at least be confident in your abilities, if not your actual personhood itself.



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13 Dec 2011, 2:47 pm

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It isn't JUST my physical appearance that gives me problems, although it plays a major factor.

With the way I look, people just can't take someone like me seriously or look at them as their equal.

People have said just by looking at me they can tell I don't have it all mentally. In a world where first impressions is crucial and perception is reality, I've already lost the first battle. (that's with friends and dating )


But you need to understand we can judge you here only by two (or three) aspects: the way you write (your writing style), your pictures and the stuff you say about you.

Your writing style is good: you're eloquent and you manage to present yourself as an intelligent person.
Your picture shows you are of average appearance, like most people.
The stuff you say about you, on the other hand... That's the worst part. Constantly putting yourself down makes you look bad.

Hypothetically speaking (since I'm married), if I were single and deciding if I want to date you, the way you speak of yourself would be the biggest turn off. Not your physical appearance, your money or the fact you can't drive (ok, lack of personal hygiene is another turn off).

I understand it's different in real life. So maybe you could try to socialize via Internet, for a start. I mean, take WP for example. I bet there are (were?) people ready to be your friend here, but your attitude is what made them turn away from you (constantly putting yourself down AND insulting other people in the process <- not sure how you do that, but you're good at it).



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13 Dec 2011, 4:09 pm

deconstruction wrote:
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It isn't JUST my physical appearance that gives me problems, although it plays a major factor.

With the way I look, people just can't take someone like me seriously or look at them as their equal.

People have said just by looking at me they can tell I don't have it all mentally. In a world where first impressions is crucial and perception is reality, I've already lost the first battle. (that's with friends and dating )


But you need to understand we can judge you here only by two (or three) aspects: the way you write (your writing style), your pictures and the stuff you say about you.

Your writing style is good: you're eloquent and you manage to present yourself as an intelligent person.
Your picture shows you are of average appearance, like most people.
The stuff you say about you, on the other hand... That's the worst part. Constantly putting yourself down makes you look bad.

Hypothetically speaking (since I'm married), if I were single and deciding if I want to date you, the way you speak of yourself would be the biggest turn off. Not your physical appearance, your money or the fact you can't drive (ok, lack of personal hygiene is another turn off).

I guess me being slow and uneducated doesn't matter either huh? Look even if you truly feel that way, (which I slightly doubt) most females don't. You said you don't live in the US so the culture is probably very different over there than it is here. (not saying I would have any success over there)

I understand it's different in real life. So maybe you could try to socialize via Internet, for a start. I mean, take WP for example. I bet there are (were?) people ready to be your friend here, but your attitude is what made them turn away from you (constantly putting yourself down AND insulting other people in the process <- not sure how you do that, but you're good at it).

I don't think it would work out. I just don't have knowledge in most things important/interesting. People wouldn't want to be friends with me on here. It'll be very stressful, I'd be under a lot pressure to find interesting things to talk about, while at the same time trying not to embarrass myself and hiding how slow and stupid I am. It wouldn't be a good situation for me.

Even the stuff I'm interested in (anime, video games) My knowledge is not that deep. I don't think I can hold a conversation talking about that stuff for an extended period of time.




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13 Dec 2011, 5:05 pm

I am just sick so of being lonely, depressed, and feeling so miserable and bitter all the time. I feeling like crying. Why do my life have to be this way? Why can't I have real friends that care about? Why can't I date?

Why did I have to be born such a pathetic, mentally weak, unattractive, slow, stupid, special ed, and talent-less bum that's not good for anything. I am a lowlife; a loser that not capable of accomplishing worthwhile.

I am half-retarded. How many 25 year old's do you know that can't bathe himself, drive, and still lives with his parents. It's no wonder why so many people make fun of me, why I get talked down to all the time. No well adjusted person can view someone like me as their equal.

I'm always left out. I feel I'm on the side of the road where they are a bunch of cars (life) passing me by. Why bother living when life is the way it is, and I'm the person I am. It's not like the future will be any better. Seriously what's the use.



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13 Dec 2011, 5:07 pm

I f****n hate everything about myself. No one would want to be me, heck I don't even want to be me.



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13 Dec 2011, 5:27 pm

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I am half-retarded. How many 25 year old's do you know that can't bathe himself, drive, and still lives with his parents. It's no wonder why so many people make fun of me, why I get talked down to all the time. No well adjusted person can view someone like me as their equal.


I do not have the numbers to back it up, but from what I have seen, the majority of 25 year old's do not drive and still lives with their parents. And I do not believe you are not capable of bathing. Maybe you do not want to, but you surely can. How difficult can it be?



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13 Dec 2011, 6:01 pm

Hey. The issues you describe are common ones for people with autism/Asperger's to have. You keep calling yourself slow and stupid and I see absolutely no evidence of slowness or stupidity. I do realize that people might mistake autistic/Aspie mannerisms for mental incapacity, I get that reaction sometimes too, but you just have to think to yourself "This person does not have much of an idea who they're dealing with do they" and let it roll off you. If they are rude enough to be confrontational and antagonistic, insulting you to your face, I'd simply correct them, tell them they're misinformed, and end the interaction.

Also you're good-looking. The thing that you and nasty people who have said negative things to you might be mistaking for ugliness is, like someone pointed out, the awkward smile that's very common to Aspies, ESPECIALLY when having a picture taken. Don't think of yourself as below or less than or not good enough in ANY capacity. Not good enough as compared to what. You are the best you you can be and the only you there ever will be and you are capable of doing things no one else is capable of if you are willing to accept and embrace your unique gifts.



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13 Dec 2011, 7:06 pm

From your English usage, it doesn't appear to me that you're stupid. I'm above average intelligence, but I'm sometimes viewed as stupid by people cos of the expression on my face. It annoys me, and it used to make me think that I *was* stupid.



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13 Dec 2011, 7:10 pm

Magnus_Rex wrote:
MR20 wrote:
I am half-retarded. How many 25 year old's do you know that can't bathe himself, drive, and still lives with his parents. It's no wonder why so many people make fun of me, why I get talked down to all the time. No well adjusted person can view someone like me as their equal.


I do not have the numbers to back it up, but from what I have seen, the majority of 25 year old's do not drive and still lives with their parents. And I do not believe you are not capable of bathing. Maybe you do not want to, but you surely can. How difficult can it be?


I find this extremely hard to believe, at least in the US. Most people around my age it seems are in college or living in an apartment somewhere. Also, there are a ton of people more than a decade younger than me that are driving.

With the bathing/showing thing is that I don't how long to scrub/rinse a particular place, and I end up spending almost an hour in the bathtub and still come out smelling funny. I've struggled with bathing ever since I was little.