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09 Jan 2012, 1:05 am

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Tequila: What? Why would someone who's dealt with depression and come to terms with it be harmful for someone who's still dealing with depression? That seems like the best thing.


From a literal point of view, yes. But life often isn't like that.

Because they may well be unsympathetic to their specific case, depending on what their story is. Not saying it's true in this case (I don't know enough about Sweetleaf's situation and she's more likely to tell the Yorkshire Ripper than me) but definitely, people who have been depressed can be a***holes too and can use their illness against them.



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09 Jan 2012, 1:07 am

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Tequila: What? Why would someone who's dealt with depression and come to terms with it be harmful for someone who's still dealing with depression? That seems like the best thing.


From a literal point of view, yes. But life often isn't like that.

Because they may well be unsympathetic to their specific case, depending on what their story is. Not saying it's true in this case (I don't know enough about Sweetleaf's situation and she's more likely to tell the Yorkshire Ripper than me) but definitely, people who have been depressed can be a***holes too and can use their illness against them.



That is where the being up front before the relationship gets too far comes in.


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09 Jan 2012, 1:07 am

Okay, replace all the "happys" I mentioned with content, and it's still the same message. Just saying.

Tequila: I suppose, but that seems fairly sadistic. Also, I agree with your avatar. The EU is lame.


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09 Jan 2012, 1:08 am

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Okay, replace all the "happys" I mentioned with content, and it's still the same message. Just saying.

Tequila: I suppose, but that seems fairly sadistic.


Yeah that works, lol I kinda wish the word happy did not make me cringe but it does. :oops:


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09 Jan 2012, 1:10 am

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Yeah that works, lol I kinda wish the word happy did not make me cringe but it does. :oops:


I used to hate that word too. Happiness does seem fake, but when you can find someone who makes you smile, and you actually do feel that specific emotion, even if you can't identify it, you'll like that feeling. The fact that you haven't found someone who makes you "content" is proof that none of them were right for you, or even nice people. Rough times are where you should be at your most supportive.


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09 Jan 2012, 1:12 am

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That is where the being up front before the relationship gets too far comes in.


Again, life isn't like that. Someone with very low self-esteem (like I am assuming you have?) can be very easily suckered in.

Fragmented: thank you! Onward to free nations once again!



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09 Jan 2012, 1:12 am

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I kinda wish the word happy did not make me cringe but it does. :oops:


Try "contentment" then. How's that sound? ;)



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09 Jan 2012, 1:13 am

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Yeah that works, lol I kinda wish the word happy did not make me cringe but it does. :oops:


I used to hate that word too. Happiness does seem fake, but when you can find someone who makes you smile, and you actually do feel that specific emotion, even if you can't identify it, you'll like that feeling. The fact that you haven't found someone who makes you "content" is proof that none of them were right for you, or even nice people. Rough times are where you should be at your most supportive.


Well the last boyfriend I had did make me content for a while, and the one before that made me content until he left and I could not see him anymore, he recently contacted me though so I do plan on seeing him again not sure if I would get back with him though. We would have to talk about some things.


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09 Jan 2012, 1:15 am

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Rough times are where you should be at your most supportive.


True, and a good boyfriend/husband should be as loving, caring and supportive as he possibly can. That said, if the person never seems to change (and doesn't really respond to love and care) or refuses help the other party may decide to cut their losses for their own self-preservation.



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09 Jan 2012, 1:15 am

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I understand this, Sweetleaf, I really do and if I was in your situation I would probably feel the same way. But it won't help you get better.

Surely there are dating sites on depression boards? Have you thought of asking there? (This line of thinking is against my better judgment, but you never know. There will probably be lots of people on there with hardline left-wing politics with a love of soft drugs. ;))



Well I should admit I've gotten sick of trying to get better....and I guess I could look there again but I did not like what I saw of the site so maybe I'd find a different one.


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09 Jan 2012, 1:17 am

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That is where the being up front before the relationship gets too far comes in.


Again, life isn't like that. Someone with very low self-esteem (like I am assuming you have?) can be very easily suckered in.

Fragmented: thank you! Onward to free nations once again!


Tequila: The problem then is, if you continue to have low self-esteem because you can't get more self-esteem for whatever reason, how are you supposed to tell when you're being suckered in? As an aspie that's like... Difficulty multipler X20.

Yes! And the return of the British Pound as standard currency! Love those coins...... :o

Sweetleaf: No, if they're not with you still, then it seems like they only made you content because you were with someone. I hate to say it but if just anyone you go out with makes you feel content until they leave, then maybe Tequila is right, you should get yourself emotionally well before getting involved. Just my opinion based on your statements and my construal of them. I know from personal experience that being with people can make you feel content, even if they're not all that great. :?


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09 Jan 2012, 1:17 am

Tequila wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
That is where the being up front before the relationship gets too far comes in.


Again, life isn't like that. Someone with very low self-esteem (like I am assuming you have?) can be very easily suckered in.

Fragmented: thank you! Onward to free nations once again!


Yes well life happens, should I lock myself in a padded room and talk to whatever characters I make up in my head to fight the boredom just to avoid any negative experiances? Yeah I've been sucked in to things before but that's life....I've learned from it.


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09 Jan 2012, 1:20 am

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Tequila: The problem then is, if you continue to have low self-esteem because you can't get more self-esteem for whatever reason, how are you supposed to tell when you're being suckered in? As an aspie that's like... Difficulty multipler X20.


Indeed. Basically, you want to not have low self-esteem before getting involved with anyone - and as an Aspie, this is even more important.

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Yes! And the return of the British Pound as standard currency! Love those coins...... :o


And the German no-mark, the French franky, the Spanish potato and the Italian liar. ;)

We still have the pound sterling in the UK (and Isle of Man / Channel Islands / Gibraltar) as we're not in the Eurozone.



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09 Jan 2012, 1:21 am

Fragmented wrote:
Tequila wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
That is where the being up front before the relationship gets too far comes in.


Again, life isn't like that. Someone with very low self-esteem (like I am assuming you have?) can be very easily suckered in.

Fragmented: thank you! Onward to free nations once again!


Tequila: The problem then is, if you continue to have low self-esteem because you can't get more self-esteem for whatever reason, how are you supposed to tell when you're being suckered in? As an aspie that's like... Difficulty multipler X20.

Yes! And the return of the British Pound as standard currency! Love those coins...... :o

Sweetleaf: No, if they're not with you still, then they only made you content because you were with someone. I hate to say it but if just anyone you go out with makes you feel content until they leave, then maybe Tequila is right, you should get yourself emotionally well before getting involved. Just my opinion based on your statements and my construal of them.


That is not really what I was implying.....I really enjoyed spending time with the ex I mentioned who recently contacted me we had quite a bit in common and where pretty into each other same with the last guy but he just ran into some things that interfered too much. And like I've said I would rather just try and cope with my mental state because quite frankly I don't know I ever was emotionally or mentally well. So I would rather get out there and live even if it means I risk unpleasent experiances I've spent so much time waiting and I don't want to die at the age of 80 knowing I spent my entire life waiting.


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09 Jan 2012, 1:23 am

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Fragmented wrote:
Tequila: The problem then is, if you continue to have low self-esteem because you can't get more self-esteem for whatever reason, how are you supposed to tell when you're being suckered in? As an aspie that's like... Difficulty multipler X20.


Indeed. Basically, you want to not have low self-esteem before getting involved with anyone - and as an Aspie, this is even more important.

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Yes! And the return of the British Pound as standard currency! Love those coins...... :o


And the German no-mark, the French franky, the Spanish potato and the Italian liar. ;)

We still have the pound sterling in the UK (and Isle of Man / Channel Islands / Gibraltar) as we're not in the Eurozone.


Well its simple, I'm not going to get with someone who is looking for someone with high self esteem.


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09 Jan 2012, 1:24 am

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Rough times are where you should be at your most supportive.


True, and a good boyfriend/husband should be as loving, caring and supportive as he possibly can. That said, if the person never seems to change (and doesn't really respond to love and care) or refuses help the other party may decide to cut their losses for their own self-preservation.


Well if me and this hypothetical boyfriend/husband are both in the sh*tter so to speak, what self-preservation?


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