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BazzaMcKenzie
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30 Oct 2006, 6:51 pm

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but i am who i am, and i don't want to change myself just so i can fit in, it's the world which has a problem with me, and i don;t see why i should change just because i have AS. The world needs to accept who we are and not judge us. It's something i don't think we should be forced to do, it's not our fault we have quirks or strange preferences. we are people who like it, and that should be enough.

yeah, but when in Rome .....

If you want to play in an NT world, you have to play the game. Its not like Vietnam, there are rules. :lol:


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30 Oct 2006, 7:00 pm

NT's and their stupid rituals. All of them deserve to die.



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30 Oct 2006, 8:51 pm

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I have just realised that I am NEVER going to get a long term boyfriend. And every one who says "Don't worry the right person will come along eventually" just pisses me off!

Okay. Mini-rant, I know. But all this sexual politics just sucks.


There is no hope. The whole "sexual politics" is a complete load of BS. I too hate this f**k life. My brother took my knife away and it is the key for me to get out of this existence that does not want me. My emotional and sexual appetite are starving but people keep getting in my way and putting up obstacles. I hate people. I blame all of them for taking my hope away from me.


I feel the same way but a part of me keeps me from doing so.NT's and their ways... :evil:



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30 Oct 2006, 8:58 pm

Markendust wrote:
ping-machine wrote:
I have just realised that I am NEVER going to get a long term boyfriend. And every one who says "Don't worry the right person will come along eventually" just pisses me off!

Okay. Mini-rant, I know. But all this sexual politics just sucks.


There is no hope. The whole "sexual politics" is a complete load of BS. I too hate this f**k life. My brother took my knife away and it is the key for me to get out of this existence that does not want me. My emotional and sexual appetite are starving but people keep getting in my way and putting up obstacles. I hate people. I blame all of them for taking my hope away from me.


You need to develop an internal locus of control.



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31 Oct 2006, 7:40 am

OK, Topher, and others, I'm not saying 'change into a NT so NT girls will love you', I'm saying take the rough edges off. What I'd hoped to express through my example was that there are certain things ASpie males can do to appear more attractive to NT females.
A good freind is an undiagnosed ASpie male. He dresses in baggy comfortable clothing, doesn't get haircuts very often, and can tell you anything about Motown artists, and their records. He's a great record collector/seller, but not much of a ladies man. If he changed certain aspects of the way he presents himself, but not giving up the record obsession, he'd have a better chance.
I'd never tell one of our crowd to act NT to get along. I can't stand NT males.



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31 Oct 2006, 7:54 am

That's what I say. I've blown every chance of ever having a partner. :x
I get very angry at myself for doing than.



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31 Oct 2006, 10:28 am

I've kind of given up on looking for an NT girl, the poor understand has given me grief before. Im wondering if an AS girl might be the safest and happier option, because there that mutural acceptance and understanding beforehand. Less worry about trying to make an impression.



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31 Oct 2006, 2:11 pm

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Well, then Topher, how about someone saying 'you can always re-invent yourself' ??? You can always work to change those behaviors/attitudes that make NT women run the other direstion. I used to dress in the oddest way. I would go to those stores that carry trade-in clothing, and look for shirts and pants that had an antique look. I loved them, but I looked like I'd just walked out of a time machine. It totally turned the girls off. But a friend finally told me that I needed to change this behavior, and 'get with it', so I did. It didn't work immediately, but when I met my wife-to-be, at least I had a bit of a fashion sense.


Why should I have to change? If they don't like me for me, then I shouldn't like them. It's like I always say, If you be someone else, you will lose yourself in the process.


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31 Oct 2006, 3:23 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
That's what I say. I've blown every chance of ever having a partner. :x
I get very angry at myself for doing than.


Me too.

My biggest problem? I tend to fall for totally the wrong people - it's like I can smell the scent of unsuitability on them, as if it's some kind of aphrodisiac. Which is then completely counter-acted by the fact that I haven't a clue how to go about fulfilling what it's telling me to do.

Personally, I'm a little tired of it...



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01 Nov 2006, 3:55 am

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Ping-Machine, what age are you? I ask because I didn't meet someone suitable to marry until I was 31(! !) It's difficult to meet people who understand we ASpies are a bit different. I went through High School, and College without a girlfriend. My mother thought I was ashamed of her, and wouldn't bring my girlfriend home to meet her (! !!???) So give us some more details, like age, how long you've known you're an ASpie, how your dating life has gone thus far, etc.


I'm 28. I found out about AS twelve years ago, when I was 16 but suspected that something was up pretty much all my life, and identified with certain aspects of autism since I first read about it in a book. (And I was 13.)

Dating sucks because I never quite figure out what to do, and because I think men shy away from me. They say that men cannot relate to women's emotional issues, but I sometimes feel that I cannot be emotionally attached and this scares them away because this is not what they expect from a woman.

I also have issues with touch, and "being intimate" sometimes feels like I'm just going through the motions. Okay... so this is going to sound bad. Maybe I wouldn't care except that I really want to get into a partnership and have babies. And I don't want to change, because if I do it will always feel like the person opposite me is living with someone who is not me. I don't think they would like that either.



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01 Nov 2006, 4:07 am

I would never want to change for someone else either. I try to look for a woman with similar interests. But the fact that I am (a) specifically looking for another aspie, (b) am a full-time college student, and (c) about to move from Texas to Idaho in a couple of months, is the real obstacle for me.

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01 Nov 2006, 8:27 am

Thanks, Ping-Machine ! ! I've been wondering what it's like for the ladies with AS. NT guys think you're SUPPOSED to be good at relationships because you're female(! !) What with the ratio on this site, we hear a lot from guys about how difficult it is to date and find someone, so it's good to hear from one of the ladies. The physical affection thing is difficult for guys, too. I had NT women totally flip from being interested to being convinced I'm a FAG. Just because I didn't jump into bed with them, sometimes on the first date. Well, excuuuuse me for not being a total "LUV MACHINE", like the NT boys. Also the "I'm sending you clues" rituals went right past me, so I'm sure some thought I was a bit of a ret*d, or something. But, you know what ?? I kept stepping up to the plate, time after time, even though I knew I was going to get hit with the ball. (OUCH ! !! !)



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01 Nov 2006, 12:26 pm

I rather look for unique girls, who have their own personality and mind, are pretty intelligent, and have a mutual understanding with me. I've never really felt attracted to the emotional and bubbly types, but the girls who are more solid, intact and mature. The "hot chicks" are in reality mostly flirty, common and much more likely to go for popular guys. I don't consider going out with a superficial fashion statement, but a girl with intelligence, maturity, and interesting personality.


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01 Nov 2006, 9:51 pm

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And every one who says "Don't worry the right person will come along eventually" just pisses me off!


I think anyone who seriously says that MUST be clinically ret*d.



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01 Nov 2006, 10:44 pm

Alicorn wrote:
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And every one who says "Don't worry the right person will come along eventually" just pisses me off!


I think anyone who seriously says that MUST be clinically ret*d.


I couldn't agree with you both more...



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02 Nov 2006, 2:38 am

>>NT's and their stupid rituals. All of them deserve to die.<<

No, they don't. People with that kind of attitude need some serious help. You need to talk to someone Markendust, you're only getting yourself down.