Dating websites - Why bother with them?

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30 Mar 2012, 4:45 am

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Ok I will just end it here, because this is just going to go on. Your point of view. my point of view. Both valid.

Do which ever one you want to.


Yeah, if it's working for you then, by all means, keep doing it. Just cause I have trouble understanding the appeal doesn't make it wrong.


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30 Mar 2012, 5:14 am

I'm not really sure why people bother with dating websites. I don't really see a need for them.

I think too many use them as a crutch for whatever reason or they use them as an ego boost, never actually planning to date.

From what I have seen through friends, internet dating is actually an art on it's own. It may allow you to know certain things sooner, but that is almost always evened out by the fact that you need to spend sufficient time with someone face to face to find out other things anyway. Like anything else, the pluses and minuses eventually catch up on each other.

It also seems to attract people who are too busy, married, looking to cheat, there for an ego boost, don't have social skills, don't get out of the house much, just broken up with someone, looking for an instant relationship, looking for a hook up etc. Seems to attract the walking wounded hoping for a quick fix rather than doing the work they need to do, in essence.

People also tend to be more picky on the net than in real life, or on the opposite end, just send out mass emails hoping for a hit. I also don't see why you would pass up the opportunity to just get to know someone in person - there would be so many things you would miss out on by not doing that, especially in the beginning.

If you do meet someone on the net, it then brings up the question of why you couldn't meet them in real life. Maybe it simply comes down to location, but in most cases I bet the interests are different and therefore neither spend time at a place where they are likely to meet the other.

Ingredients to meet the right person really boils down to right person, right place, right time. But for that to happen you also have to become the right person, which means if you're not there yet then maybe you still have some work to do on yourself yet.


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30 Mar 2012, 5:21 am

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30 Mar 2012, 7:12 am

Wolfheart, I think it depends on your demographics, too. I'm a 44-year old single mother with a full-time job. I *never* meet new people in the ordinary course of my chock-full, busy day.

I chat people up all the time, even people I'm not interested in sexually (like, say, the lady in front of me in line at the supermarket). I have no problems being friendly, I just never, ever, ever meet anyone appropriate for me to date. There aren't scads and scads of single men in my age group just wandering around. I talk to people at the gym, I talk to people at my kids' school, I talk to people at stores, I talk to people at bars, etc. But almost no one is single and age-appropriate. None of my friends are single, and none of their friends are single (unless there's a real good reason, like alcoholism, or a serial cheater).

I am no longer 23 and unencumbered, with the world at my feet. Online dating is the only way to target the audience that's out there for me. Otherwise, it's *complete* needle-in-a-haystack for me and people like me.

I hope that opens it up a little for you!



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30 Mar 2012, 10:20 am

nat4200 wrote:
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Dating websites - Why bother with them?

Why not?...


You can receive a quicker response through real life approaching and that's the purpose this thread is making.

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Also, first impressions seem to be just as important in online dating, but just like dating offline what is good will depend on the woman, and somewhat on the scene itself. What works to make an impression on a women you meet doing 10pin bowling will be different from what will work in a crowded niteclub.


In real life, you have to create a first impression again once you get past the website stage of it, using a dating website isn't going to show character, body language, confidence and most of all, chemistry. You might spend 3 months talking to someone on the web, only to find out they don't like certain body language quirks you have or they don't feel the chemistry is there in real life.

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in many cases the response someone gives IRL borders on "fiendishly difficult" for a person on the autism spectrum to read.


Difficult, yes but it can be learned in theory and through practice, body language can be learned. If a person on the spectrum meets someone on a date and they don't know how to escalate the body language or they don't understand body language, they are going to be very confused whereas if they have tried real life approaching, they will have generally enough understanding of when to escalate and when not to.

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I don't want to argue against this but, this can get complicated. In some situations it's just not appropriate to hit on say a female member of such a group: one reason I've seen a couple of times is when there are few women involved in the group and the member in question has already had several unwelcome advances by other members.


That would be the internet equivalent of stalking or harassment, if the person didn't know they were unwelcome or unwanted after being directly told so, it's their own fault for persisting. The difference is that doing it at an activity or event, it's supervised and it is in a controlled environment. Doing it on the internet could get you arrested for stalking someone on the internet or even done for harassment.

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Then you have expenses such as in bars and clubs some people like to buy the person they are interested in a drink, etcetera.


There are many free activities or cheap activities when don't require money, as I stated in one of my previous threads.

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Being forced out of your comfort zone is not necessarily a good thing - many people just function better and come off as more comfortable, etc. when they are in there comfort zone.


Being forced out of your comfort zone pushes you to reach new limits by making you adapt to it and learn from it.

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What?! In many cases this is as much of an issue IRL as online. I also suspect that success in online dating often involves standing out too.


The point is if someone is being messaged by ten people, they are less likely to pay attention to another random person as opposed to speaking to one person that catches them in real life with their guard down.



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30 Mar 2012, 10:22 am

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Wolfheart, I think it depends on your demographics, too. I'm a 44-year old single mother with a full-time job. I *never* meet new people in the ordinary course of my chock-full, busy day.

I chat people up all the time, even people I'm not interested in sexually (like, say, the lady in front of me in line at the supermarket). I have no problems being friendly, I just never, ever, ever meet anyone appropriate for me to date. There aren't scads and scads of single men in my age group just wandering around. I talk to people at the gym, I talk to people at my kids' school, I talk to people at stores, I talk to people at bars, etc. But almost no one is single and age-appropriate. None of my friends are single, and none of their friends are single (unless there's a real good reason, like alcoholism, or a serial cheater).

I am no longer 23 and unencumbered, with the world at my feet. Online dating is the only way to target the audience that's out there for me. Otherwise, it's *complete* needle-in-a-haystack for me and people like me.

I hope that opens it up a little for you!


Hmm I suppose it can be good in that sense, I guess if you're older and you have a busy schedule or kids, dating websites can be useful.



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30 Mar 2012, 11:53 am

Wolfheart wrote:
nat4200 wrote:
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Dating websites - Why bother with them?

Why not?...


You can receive a quicker response through real life approaching and that's the purpose this thread is making.


Many of us here (most?) lack the confidence and social skills to approach someone in real life,
let alone the psychic ability to screen people who would be understanding enough of our quirks/quirky enough themselves to date an Aspie.

Screw a "quicker response" when that response is always going to be "no" in real life since I can't look someone in the face for the life of me. (For instance.)

I'm antisocial, asexual, feminist, and obsessed with social science-
there aren't exactly ideal male partners for me hanging around my local urban grocery.


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30 Mar 2012, 12:26 pm

ValentineWiggin wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
nat4200 wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
Dating websites - Why bother with them?

Why not?...


You can receive a quicker response through real life approaching and that's the purpose this thread is making.


Many of us here (most?) lack the confidence and social skills to approach someone in real life,
let alone the psychic ability to screen people who would be understanding enough of our quirks/quirky enough themselves to date an Aspie.

Screw a "quicker response" when that response is always going to be "no" in real life since I can't look someone in the face for the life of me. (For instance.)

I'm antisocial, asexual, feminist, and obsessed with social science-
there aren't exactly ideal male partners for me hanging around my local urban grocery.

Interesting combo.