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18 Oct 2012, 8:50 pm

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well, cool. I can talk to women but women don't know how to talk to me. I can talk to a women for 2 hours and 90% of the time nothing really happen.
Im cool,confidence and average looking, and in good shape but yet women just have no idea how to talk to me. So what am I suppose to do when women ain't putting no effort in it.


maybe the problem is you're not actually talking to them as good as you want or they arent as attracted to you as you think they are. Funny thing about attractiveness, even women will jump through hoops for someone they like. They just have a different way of going through it. A way that lets face it most of us will never comprehend let alone see in action.

Maybe explain how you do talk to women to see why they arent as receptive

I am very comferable around women. Maybe too much. I can talk about women about alot of stuff (family guy,sports,me, and others stuff)
But for some reason they (women) just really have no idea what to do with a guy with me. Maybe Im just too ''cool'' with women to a point where it a bad thing. I can go up to a women and just talk to her about adam sandler. I would say ''adam sandler is an actor and is funny, you like his movies''
90% of the time, the women are like ''stone struck'' like they are so shock that some guy can just go up to them and be so ''cool'' with them that maybe it throw them off or something?. I guess women really are not big fans of family guy. even though it a very funny show. I mean women need to put in some effort. They ain't stupid. they smart, you know



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18 Oct 2012, 9:00 pm

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well, cool. I can talk to women but women don't know how to talk to me. I can talk to a women for 2 hours and 90% of the time nothing really happen.
Im cool,confidence and average looking, and in good shape but yet women just have no idea how to talk to me. So what am I suppose to do when women ain't putting no effort in it.


maybe the problem is you're not actually talking to them as good as you want or they arent as attracted to you as you think they are. Funny thing about attractiveness, even women will jump through hoops for someone they like. They just have a different way of going through it. A way that lets face it most of us will never comprehend let alone see in action.

Maybe explain how you do talk to women to see why they arent as receptive

I am very comferable around women. Maybe too much. I can talk about women about alot of stuff (family guy,sports,me, and others stuff)
But for some reason they (women) just really have no idea what to do with a guy with me. Maybe Im just too ''cool'' with women to a point where it a bad thing. I can go up to a women and just talk to her about adam sandler. I would say ''adam sandler is an actor and is funny, you like his movies''
90% of the time, the women are like ''stone struck'' like they are so shock that some guy can just go up to them and be so ''cool'' with them that maybe it throw them off or something?. I guess women really are not big fans of family guy. even though it a very funny show. I mean women need to put in some effort. They ain't stupid. they smart, you know


Sounds to me as if you're coming off as someone who wants a quick chat and not someone trying to approach them for something more. Also a better choice of subjects wouldnt hurt



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18 Oct 2012, 10:27 pm

Wow, I cant believe I left this one out.

Guys, stop being white knights to get women. Its the most pathetic thing you can do. Honestly it has as much chance as simply asking if she wants your dick. Actually it has less chance because atleast when you ask her if she wants your dick its direct enough to eventually get a positive response. you're not fooling anyone, its so obvious to see guys bending left and right to get the praise of a woman. Guess what, women dont want that (except the ones that want doormats), chances are you end up being just another wannabe in their eyes. Grow a spine, and a brain, and form your own views and opinions. you're not rescuing anyone, and even if you were you cant expect shed fall for you just because you rescued her. Havent you watched the movie with quasimodo? It wasnt the defender white knight that got the girl, it was the pretty guy with personality and a level of badassery.



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18 Oct 2012, 10:52 pm

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The idea that there are these arbitrary "leagues" ruins a lot of potentially good relationships. Settling for anything less than what would be absolutely best to you is pretty much going to lead to being let down in one way or another. I put up with it for two years and I got absolutely nothing out of it except for disappointment. Nobody should have to feel like they are settling or that they can't do better.


again, its been scientifically proven. But i see many guys around here who look rather average and complain about not having girls, just to eventually find out its just theyre looking for something super specific and wont budge, even if they have other girls they could have. They would rather be miserable with some fantasy instead of being happy with a reality.


I wouldn't call it being happy. Telling someone they'll have to settle for eating dog **** rather than donuts or cupcakes or whatever isn't going to turn out too well. I can't really fault them just for having standards.
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18 Oct 2012, 11:06 pm

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The idea that there are these arbitrary "leagues" ruins a lot of potentially good relationships. Settling for anything less than what would be absolutely best to you is pretty much going to lead to being let down in one way or another. I put up with it for two years and I got absolutely nothing out of it except for disappointment. Nobody should have to feel like they are settling or that they can't do better.


again, its been scientifically proven. But i see many guys around here who look rather average and complain about not having girls, just to eventually find out its just theyre looking for something super specific and wont budge, even if they have other girls they could have. They would rather be miserable with some fantasy instead of being happy with a reality.


I wouldn't call it being happy. Telling someone they'll have to settle for eating dog **** rather than donuts or cupcakes or whatever isn't going to turn out too well. I can't really fault them just for having standards.
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you're one of them btw.



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18 Oct 2012, 11:28 pm

Sounds to me as if you're coming off as someone who wants a quick chat and not someone trying to approach them for something more. Also a better choice of subjects wouldnt hurt[/quote]
Um, not really. I really don't get what you are saying? I mean women are smart they can put some effort in to it. If women can be president and make decision. Can't they make decision in basic one on one communacation. I mean if I talk about ''wrong stuff'' what stopping a women from saying something? If go up to a women and start talking about adam sandler and if she don't care about adam sandler, why can't she put some effort in conversation and start talking about some other movie stars or whatever. I can talk to a women for two hours and the women put no effort into it.
Now if Im so f**^^ up then why I can talk to men so easy or even older women easy. Why because men and older women try. They try being friends, they try talking to you. I not changing for no one. That confidence. Im real. Now maybe I won't get a women but you know what that the women problem.
I don't have a gun with me. Im not a zombie. Nothing is stoping a women from trying.



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18 Oct 2012, 11:31 pm

MXH wrote:
wtfid2 wrote:
Boxman108 wrote:
MXH wrote:
Boxman108 wrote:
The idea that there are these arbitrary "leagues" ruins a lot of potentially good relationships. Settling for anything less than what would be absolutely best to you is pretty much going to lead to being let down in one way or another. I put up with it for two years and I got absolutely nothing out of it except for disappointment. Nobody should have to feel like they are settling or that they can't do better.


again, its been scientifically proven. But i see many guys around here who look rather average and complain about not having girls, just to eventually find out its just theyre looking for something super specific and wont budge, even if they have other girls they could have. They would rather be miserable with some fantasy instead of being happy with a reality.


I wouldn't call it being happy. Telling someone they'll have to settle for eating dog **** rather than donuts or cupcakes or whatever isn't going to turn out too well. I can't really fault them just for having standards.
rofl


you're one of them btw.
imdog s**t? fck you


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18 Oct 2012, 11:35 pm

wtfid2 wrote:
MXH wrote:
wtfid2 wrote:
Boxman108 wrote:
MXH wrote:
Boxman108 wrote:
The idea that there are these arbitrary "leagues" ruins a lot of potentially good relationships. Settling for anything less than what would be absolutely best to you is pretty much going to lead to being let down in one way or another. I put up with it for two years and I got absolutely nothing out of it except for disappointment. Nobody should have to feel like they are settling or that they can't do better.


again, its been scientifically proven. But i see many guys around here who look rather average and complain about not having girls, just to eventually find out its just theyre looking for something super specific and wont budge, even if they have other girls they could have. They would rather be miserable with some fantasy instead of being happy with a reality.


I wouldn't call it being happy. Telling someone they'll have to settle for eating dog **** rather than donuts or cupcakes or whatever isn't going to turn out too well. I can't really fault them just for having standards.
rofl


you're one of them btw.
imdog sh**? fck you


you're the only one that made that connection. Id call it a freudian slip if it was sexual, same concept though. Anyways my reference was to the bolded part.



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18 Oct 2012, 11:37 pm

I just wanted to say that it is great advice, and I don't really find anything I can disagree on. In fact, my own method is pretty similar to that one. I'll come later and elaborate :lol:

Also, you might want to edit the first post to put the white knighting part in there; it's unlikely that new readers will see it unless they are the kind that reads every post.


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18 Oct 2012, 11:39 pm

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Sounds to me as if you're coming off as someone who wants a quick chat and not someone trying to approach them for something more. Also a better choice of subjects wouldnt hurt

Um, not really. I really don't get what you are saying? I mean women are smart they can put some effort in to it. If women can be president and make decision. Can't they make decision in basic one on one communacation. I mean if I talk about ''wrong stuff'' what stopping a women from saying something? If go up to a women and start talking about adam sandler and if she don't care about adam sandler, why can't she put some effort in conversation and start talking about some other movie stars or whatever. I can talk to a women for two hours and the women put no effort into it.
Now if Im so f**^^ up then why I can talk to men so easy or even older women easy. Why because men and older women try. They try being friends, they try talking to you. I not changing for no one. That confidence. Im real. Now maybe I won't get a women but you know what that the women problem.
I don't have a gun with me. Im not a zombie. Nothing is stoping a women from trying.


Lack of attraction. The way you talk to the men and older women is what they expect out of you. Friendly talk. Its what they want out of you. Contrary to what many say around here many young girls do need to be talked to different than how youd talk to someone friendly. Try to engage them in the conversation more. Ask questions, sadly thanks to the stupid dating dynamics its you that has to do the work. Simply saying women are as competent wont mean theyll do it.



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18 Oct 2012, 11:39 pm

one thing about me and how Im different from other dateless men is that Im very proud person and never ever blame myself for anything.
Am I perfect. No of course not, no one is. do I have faults, sure. But so do women. could it be that Im just talking to the wrong women. Maybe the women I talk to are just stuck up or maybe they are just boring? can that be possible? perhaps I just haven't found the right women maybe there is a women out there that like adam sandlers and love talking about random s**t. maybe there i s women out there (in my age group) that is cool, not boring.
Sorry,dude but I don't blame myself for lack of dating so the best thing too do is not try to convince me of it (nothing personal just how I am)



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18 Oct 2012, 11:41 pm

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Sounds to me as if you're coming off as someone who wants a quick chat and not someone trying to approach them for something more. Also a better choice of subjects wouldnt hurt

Um, not really. I really don't get what you are saying? I mean women are smart they can put some effort in to it. If women can be president and make decision. Can't they make decision in basic one on one communacation. I mean if I talk about ''wrong stuff'' what stopping a women from saying something? If go up to a women and start talking about adam sandler and if she don't care about adam sandler, why can't she put some effort in conversation and start talking about some other movie stars or whatever. I can talk to a women for two hours and the women put no effort into it.
Now if Im so f**^^ up then why I can talk to men so easy or even older women easy. Why because men and older women try. They try being friends, they try talking to you. I not changing for no one. That confidence. Im real. Now maybe I won't get a women but you know what that the women problem.
I don't have a gun with me. Im not a zombie. Nothing is stoping a women from trying.


Lack of attraction. The way you talk to the men and older women is what they expect out of you. Friendly talk. Its what they want out of you. Contrary to what many say around here many young girls do need to be talked to different than how youd talk to someone friendly. Try to engage them in the conversation more. Ask questions, sadly thanks to the stupid dating dynamics its you that has to do the work. Simply saying women are as competent wont mean theyll do it.


please answer this: why can't a women put some effort into it



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18 Oct 2012, 11:43 pm

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one thing about me and how Im different from other dateless men is that Im very proud person and never ever blame myself for anything.
Am I perfect. No of course not, no one is. do I have faults, sure. But so do women. could it be that Im just talking to the wrong women. Maybe the women I talk to are just stuck up or maybe they are just boring? can that be possible? perhaps I just haven't found the right women maybe there is a women out there that like adam sandlers and love talking about random sh**. maybe there i s women out there (in my age group) that is cool, not boring.
Sorry,dude but I don't blame myself for lack of dating so the best thing too do is not try to convince me of it (nothing personal just how I am)


While its a good thing to be positive about yourself, theres many different ways of being positive. Only one of the ways is whats so called as "confidence". And still, as I said before confidence alone wont make you a casanova. Im thinking a mixture of wrong people and wrong way to talk to them. Instead of talking about movies or random stuff talk about yourself and them. If you're looking for a woman to do more than just watch movies with you should consider her for what she is.
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please answer this: why can't a women put some effort into it

Because they dont have to. After you are done with her theres bound to be another guy willing to put all the effort needed for her. Why should she put any for you if shes not even that into you. The people that have women put effort into them are the types that arent going to be in this forum, because theyve never had issues or even know that people can have issues with dating.



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18 Oct 2012, 11:44 pm

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please answer this: why can't a women put some effort into it


They can and do. But only if they are actually attracted to the guy.


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18 Oct 2012, 11:47 pm

Shatbat wrote:
I just wanted to say that it is great advice, and I don't really find anything I can disagree on. In fact, my own method is pretty similar to that one. I'll come later and elaborate :lol:

Also, you might want to edit the first post to put the white knighting part in there; it's unlikely that new readers will see it unless they are the kind that reads every post.


lol thanks. I tried to avoid having a method as I dont like one size fits all things but i welcome any of the guys posting theirs. The more ideas we have the more we can build from.

Thanks, did it now



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18 Oct 2012, 11:52 pm

Women only put an effort into it if they HAVE TO, in all other cases there's a supply and they could take it or wait for the next.

And AS/NT girls are usually very different, same approach does not apply.