mv wrote:
Frieslander, "women", just to be on the safe side.
You and I live in different cultures, though, and maybe there's something more appropriate to your more polite, less direct culture?
To me, it's death to be called "Ma'am". To the point that I even tip heavier if someone calls me "Miss".
"Ladies" is a terrible word, in my opinion. It indicates all kinds of expectations of my demeanor and behavior, and I don't stand for that. I won't take someone to task for saying "lady", but it definitely changes my opinion of them. If they mean it in the context of "she's a lady because she's classy and she considers other people's feelings" then I'm okay with that, but most of the time the definition goes beyond that and I can't have that.
"Girls" is right out. Even if a particular woman prefers that, it's just insulting to all the rest of us. We're "girls" when we live with our parents.
I recall back in the 90s when feminist idiots though the term "chick" was degrading because they took it literally and assumed it was derived from the word for a baby bird. In fact, it comes from the Spanish word
chica which means a Young WOMAN. English has no equivalent of
madamoiselle or
fräulein, so call women under the age of 30 'girls'. I some guess old ladies don't like it because they feel bitter about not being young anymore.
But if you must refer to them with an a more age-specific term, call them
wimminz.
Now I said it before, and I'll say it again:
The word "ma'am" has no plural form and is NEVER, EVER used to refer to women in the 3rd person! This is shouldn't be that hard to understand.