when do women become too odd for men?

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it's individual. every person has different ideas of what weirdness entails.

Things that disturbed other men:

Some do not like, that I have "male" hobbies. So while woman hobbies seem to be more of social stuff things, typical "male" hobbies are often simple games. So I dont know if I am childish or whatever, but paintball, tabeltopgames, console or PC or such things are much more fun to me than social stuff hobbies. But some guys separate their life. So there are things they only do, while with their girl friends, and other things they only do while with their friends, and they dont want their girlfriend to be around when doing last. (Whyever.) So if you met around the same friends, you would be forced as girlfriends, to no longer spend time with your friends, because otherwise your boyfriend feels disturbed. If you did not met the same friends before, boys also get weird, because they do not want that you spend time with him and the his friends together, so he has its "mantime" XD, but you are also not supposed to meet your own malefriends. So from their oppinion, when you start to have a relationship with them, you should stay alone at home, get depressed and kill yourself. -.-

On the either side, I knew boys that didnt like it, that I didnt care, when them themselfs met with female friends of them. So for them it was a sign, that I wouldnt love them, because if I did, i never would "allow" him to meet with other women. -.-

Then there were some, that didnt like, that I could not manipulated in a way, they seem to be used. So this "....of you dont gnagnagnagna, then you dont love me...." and so on didnt work, because I knew by myself if I loved someone or not. They could have said, that they dont felt loved, but telling me what I feel is as if they would tell my if I am hungry or not. O_o Or they were disturbed and tried such soap opera stuff, which I really didnt get at all...

Then you are supposed to find everything about your friend great, and you are not allowed to say anything against him. So a special crazy boyfriend tried to get aggressive against me, because we were driving in his car with some friends, and he was driving way to fast in city area and asked polite if he could drive slower. As I was told, for others this meant, that I thought that he was a bad driver. -.-

Then there are those who try to manipulate you by aggression and that cant stand, that I can be far more aggressive if my opposite wants it that way. So yelling at me, dont make me silence, but makes me yelling even louder that my opposite better leave the room.

A friend of a friend who helped us by renewing our house felt insulted, because I was able to lift more material then him. -.- (I didnt even know. I was sent to get some additional sacks of material, and in the meanwhile he tried to lift some of the sacks we already had to move them and failed. So I came back from the shop and started to lift the material sacks out of the car and into our yarden, and because of this he was pissed off. -.-)

And the whole face painting stuff and fashion stuff and so on. So many just want a doll as status symbol to adjust their low self esteem. -.-

Or that kiddie guys with their kiddie tries telling you they were too dumb to do this and that in the household. How shall you appreciate a guy on eyehigh, that is trying to tell you honestly, that he was too dumb to use a toilette brush?

Or there are guys, that think that they seek an relationship but dont even know the difference between want to f**k and want an relationship themselfs, like the following poster:

Yeah, I know that the "way of feminine dresssing" concentrates on looking younger, appealing manly secual drive. But I thought we were talking about relationships?

Makeup, the same...lloking younger...looking more fertile for men, appealing manly sex drive.....interesting, but no use in an discussion about relationships.

Same goes for the forbidden fruit thing. Appleases the man that this woman would isolate on bearing and caring childs for a man only. Really interesting in a discussion about secual relations. I thought this was about relationships?

And yes, I see no case for hating a man for wanting sex. But if all he wants sex, there are prositutes for these deeds. I see no cause to take on me the misadvantages of an relationship, without any bonusses on my own, just because a man is too greedy to pay the prostitute. I mean I am physical healthy and like sex too, so why should I hate someone of those. But sex I can have with myself on the toilette much easier, so there should be some profit I have on my own. Accept misadvantages for receiving something I can do myself is a bit weird.

Or that other stuff other posters are telling like: "uiuiui...girls that farts..." Yeah, get yourself a doll, thats the only woman in earth not farting. So see you again, when you have become a bit wiser and are looking for existing women instead nonfarting fairytales princesses. ^^ Or "...shall act like helpless little girls...", I am 33, I am working on construction sites...so I am sorry, but if you want an actress, go to Hollywood and pay one ... and better stay away from kindergarten and other places with little girls. O_o

Too make it short: Because it seems that many of the guys, want a, selfcentered relationship with their dreamgirl. So instead of starting to look for real existing woman they like, they look instead for women that they can force to become their dreamgirl by manipulation, without even caring, if the girl has an advantage of it. The logical next step, that someone, that only has misadvantages to behave in this way, dont have an interest to behave in this way, and become their relationship partner, they ignore.

Congrats. You just insulted a lot of shy quiet girls out there by implying they're little girls.

The thing that is less alerting me, are women acting as shy little girls. So I dont know why this should be insulting. The thing really alerting me are guys feeling specially attracted by persons acting and behaving like shy little girls. As long as that they are themselfs aware, that they are forced to go after their passion of females acting and behaving like shy little girls with women doing so, there is nothing bad about.

But as I have been told there are not only women, that are able to show a behavior like shy little girls, but allegedly it shall happen that shy little girls also start to behave like shy little girls. And this is the thing, that is alerting me, when someone tells me, that he find this behaviour sexual attractive.

At first glance I thought this thread was titled "when do women become too old for men?" not odd. lol

I think when either sex is weird but honest you're in a far better place at keeping a partner. It's when we are odd and try to hide it (or be something other when who we are) that we get tossed in the ex department.

I made the same initial mistake, too.

Why do you continue to refer to them as little? They're adults just like you are. You think you're better than them?



It doesn't matter what you think. By referring to them as little, you're practically insulting them. You should actually be ashamed instead of being so callous about what you said about them.



It's called a preference. And I never described them as "little". You are.

Adult girls come in all varieties, personality-wise. Each of them attracts certain guys and/or girls, but they are not each going to attract every single person out there.

Back when I was was dating (somewhat, anyway...) my biggest obstacles were a lack of social circle, and being a single mother at a young age(baggage). I also could be a little aggressive or standoffish, but I had some serious trust issues for quite a while.

Too odd?
I haven't encountered such a thing.

I dated this girl, Tavia, who was rooming with my friend Khari, and after a few months he told me he needed to show me something(while she was out of town) and I was thinking... drugs? Weird porn? What could he want to invade her privacy over, to the point of including me?

I almost didn't go but I'm glad I did. She had been taking my hairbrushes and combs that I carried(I thought I'd become really adept at losing stuff but she was stealing it) and pulling my hair out of it and made a weird lump of hair, kind of like a hair doll of some sort. She had some of my clothes, some of my used tissues etc. The creepiest part was the rows of plastic bags pinned on the wall and dated. Like who the f**k saves a tissue and writes the date and... I mean what the f**k was she going to do with all of it? It was like a weird shrine of some sort.

THAT was too odd.

There is a difference between shy and introverted. An introverted person is a silent one, because it comforts her. While a shy person, acts in this way because of being afraid. This afraidness of doing something worng goes ok and is part of being a child. If a child feels himself afraid of a task, he seeks because of this guidance from another person. This is absolutely working as intended. While you grow older you should learn to master this tasks, where you needed help before, to do them on your own. As result, as grown up, you should have grown confident in yourself, self esteem in your possibilities to solve problems on your own and so on...

Being shy means not to be the way you like to be, because of being afraid. A introverted person is not interested in small talk. She is confident in being the way she likes to be, when avoiding small talk. A shy person, wished to be part of the small talk, but doesnt trust her own skill or fears confrontation with others, with whom she doesnt feel as equal in social skills, so to avoid possible conflicts in which she tells herself to be lost, she avoids the whole situations and doesnt give into the deeds she would have. Typical: "I better dont talk. I speak nonsense anyway, and they are not interested in what I think of this topic." This is shy. And as a grown up this is pretty sh***y, because while as a child you can relay on your parents to help you through situations, as a grown up you need another grown up to act as your parents, helping you in the tasks you are afraid of, taking your hand, comforting you that you dont need to be afraid and so on. In an relationship this is bad, because instead of two equal partners, you have a child and a parent, caring to carry the tasks of both of him instead of sharing the tasks they have to face between them two.

So yes, being shy is a normal part of typical children evolution, but in an relationships of two grown ups, this should no longer be a part. Then you should be the one, helping your own children with their tasks, showing them confident, that they can feel safe, because of you helping them in the tasks they cant do on their own yet or have not learned how to handle them yet.

The term "girl" you used yourself, should give you a hint on your own. So you are 29 years old, according to your infos, so speaking yourself of "girls" which contains within the word, that this person is not a woman yet. Because it would be a "shy, quiet, woman" then. Which you dont get to hear that often, because being shy is not linked to grown up in our society. You yourself linked the words shy and quiet to children, so instead of women you took the word girls yourself.



Adults as I dont give into your cheap manipulations try. In no part of my post, was anything written about that they would be worse or better. So as I cant mind read, please answer questions you brought up your own yourself.



My cousin is little and this is no insult. It is describing a normal part of human evolution. Everyone is sometime in his life a little child. Please get yourself someone with no confidence to try to manipulate him with your tricks.



Simply one question: If you were visiting a kindergarden, to decide if you want your child to stay here the next years and you would tell the female educator that your child is "a shy quiet boy" (I am emphasising that the word "little" is not existing in this example) and the female educator would tell you: "Oh this is no problem. Actually I am personally attracted into men that are shy quiet boys. I really love that type of men, which makes me want to (instinct-wise) hug them and do all sorts of nice things for them. So your boy will have a great time here with me."

Would you feel yourself unconcerned, leaving your shy, quiet son with this woman?

You know they are when they do this out of nowhere!!

When both hit puberty.

She was planning to clone you.

Well, Schneekugel, I guess adults with Avoidant Personality Disorder (for example) are not grown ups and unworthy of love and attraction because they are often considered to be extremely shy.

As for your pedophiliac projections, people tend to see in others what they see in themselves. Go get some psychiatric help.

Maybe when shes looking at you like this!

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