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22 Mar 2013, 11:00 am

This has nothing to do with NT or not. Neither does it have to do with gender. If any woman was to say the same thing to a guy, I am sure he wouldn't be thrilled. Maybe he wouldn't say she made him cry, but she wouldn't make him laugh either.

It's insensitive and unnecessary.

I have a lot more I could say, but I will keep my mouth shut, because I know it would be stormy.



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22 Mar 2013, 11:04 am

Would you appreciate it if a girlfriend you really liked was going on about how another guy they're hanging with has a much bigger dick than you and is better in bed, posted a convo to you where they're flirting with the other guy, then scoffed if this stirred up your bad feelings and insecurity? Would ANY but the most masochistic of guys like this?

This stuff here is a big WHAT NOT TO DO demonstration if you actually want a good relationship with someone. If you want to f**k with people's heads and hurt them, by all means do this, but it makes you look like an asshat.

Don't do this.



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22 Mar 2013, 11:05 am

I have one word to say.............shallow!!


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22 Mar 2013, 11:07 am

MXH wrote:
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Lilya wrote:
Take responsibility, change your manners and STOP presenting yourself as some sort of a hero or victim of your stories.
This^^^

How would you feel if she pulled this kind of thing with you?


I think I do have a fair point though, if I'm going to put a fair amount of effort into personal fitness, I accept and expect the same. I'm not imposing my standards upon any but it's how I feel personally, I am very clear about those standards. Everyone has requirements and standards, there's no point in pretending that we don't in an attempt to make ourselves look deeper.


Then stop trying to get people to mold to your standards.


Exactly.

It's already been pointed out in this thread by others and by herself that having different passions won't make hers any less important. Also, it is very cruel and thoughtless of you to have showed interest towards her and lulled her into believing that you are genuinely attracted to and caring about her, just to shoot her down at this point by pointing to her out that she is not fit/pretty enough. Not only that, you have revealed to her that you have had flirty conversations behind her back AND you tell her that she should be much more like this girl that you cheated on her with.


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22 Mar 2013, 11:14 am

Sometimes I wonder, how many threads similar to this one, are posted for attention!

Just saying...



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22 Mar 2013, 11:18 am

MXH wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
Lilya wrote:
Take responsibility, change your manners and STOP presenting yourself as some sort of a hero or victim of your stories.
This^^^

How would you feel if she pulled this kind of thing with you?


I think I do have a fair point though, if I'm going to put a fair amount of effort into personal fitness, I accept and expect the same. I'm not imposing my standards upon any but it's how I feel personally, I am very clear about those standards. Everyone has requirements and standards, there's no point in pretending that we don't in an attempt to make ourselves look deeper.


Then stop trying to get people to mold to your standards.


But we have to mould to standards of others, we have to mould for job interviews, for dates..If anything, people do more moulding but I do agree that moulding should come from within, from passion and not from pressure.



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22 Mar 2013, 11:23 am

Wolfheart wrote:
MXH wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
Lilya wrote:
Take responsibility, change your manners and STOP presenting yourself as some sort of a hero or victim of your stories.
This^^^

How would you feel if she pulled this kind of thing with you?


I think I do have a fair point though, if I'm going to put a fair amount of effort into personal fitness, I accept and expect the same. I'm not imposing my standards upon any but it's how I feel personally, I am very clear about those standards. Everyone has requirements and standards, there's no point in pretending that we don't in an attempt to make ourselves look deeper.


Then stop trying to get people to mold to your standards.


But we have to mould to standards of others, we have to mould for job interviews, for dates..If anything, people do more moulding but I do agree that moulding just come from within, from passion and not from pressure.
If its not broken dont fix it. Take a used car for example there might be minor body issues like maybe faded paint or scratches but if the engine is running fine etc who cares just go for it. Like getting a 93 Lexus SC 300 for 2500 and all that is wrong with it is a couple dents etc as opposed to buying a 2013 lexus for 40000 with no flaws hehe. And lets say you make less than 20000 a year like 95% of the rest of the populous the wiser bet would be going with the cheaper vehicle with minor flaws because at the fraction of the cost on fixing it up it will be better than the newer car.


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22 Mar 2013, 11:37 am

Wolfheart wrote:
MXH wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
Lilya wrote:
Take responsibility, change your manners and STOP presenting yourself as some sort of a hero or victim of your stories.
This^^^

How would you feel if she pulled this kind of thing with you?


I think I do have a fair point though, if I'm going to put a fair amount of effort into personal fitness, I accept and expect the same. I'm not imposing my standards upon any but it's how I feel personally, I am very clear about those standards. Everyone has requirements and standards, there's no point in pretending that we don't in an attempt to make ourselves look deeper.


Then stop trying to get people to mold to your standards.


But we have to mould to standards of others, we have to mould for job interviews, for dates..If anything, people do more moulding but I do agree that moulding should come from within, from passion and not from pressure.


Then why put such pressure on somebody? One can hardly compare love life and job interviews. Dating requires a lot of compromises from both people. You can't tell someone to mold themselves to fit your specific wishes, especially when you show no respect or commitment to them.


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22 Mar 2013, 11:38 am

Lilya wrote:
MXH wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
Lilya wrote:
Take responsibility, change your manners and STOP presenting yourself as some sort of a hero or victim of your stories.
This^^^

How would you feel if she pulled this kind of thing with you?


I think I do have a fair point though, if I'm going to put a fair amount of effort into personal fitness, I accept and expect the same. I'm not imposing my standards upon any but it's how I feel personally, I am very clear about those standards. Everyone has requirements and standards, there's no point in pretending that we don't in an attempt to make ourselves look deeper.


Then stop trying to get people to mold to your standards.


Exactly.

It's already been pointed out in this thread by others and by herself that having different passions won't make hers any less important. Also, it is very cruel and thoughtless of you to have showed interest towards her and lulled her into believing that you are genuinely attracted to and caring about her, just to shoot her down at this point by pointing to her out that she is not fit/pretty enough. Not only that, you have revealed to her that you have had flirty conversations behind her back AND you tell her that she should be much more like this girl that you cheated on her with.


I'm very aware that I could have worded things better or at least behaved better but it was a situation that was waiting to happen. Sometimes I can be the kindest, sensitive, artistic type of guy and other times I just change into something else.

Like this conversation I'm having, sometimes I can be a very deep and loving person but I am very temperamental and I don't know why...I become a hurtful person.

Random Girl
That I'm a vegetarian and that in July in going out to Belarus to volunteer at a summer camp for kids who were left disabled following the chernobyl nuclear disaster for a couple of weeks, to make sure they have an amazing and fun time
Ryan
A vegetarian? Wow, that must be a rather humbling experience that makes you feel grateful for what you have. Sometimes when I see poor kids suffering on the news, I think how lucky we are to live in such a beautiful environment and realize it doesn't take much to offer a helping hand...I wish I could do something like that.
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Anyone can do something like it :) recently I started to feel very unworthy and realised that I wanted to get back into charity work again as I've done a lot in the past
Ryan
I have always looked into it but I realize we can get so mixed up in vain pursuits that we forget about helping others, maybe it's something I should do. What made you feel unworthy? morally unworthy?
Random Girl
Just different factors in my life, I realised there is so much more than beauty and material stuff and when I'm old and about to die I want to look back and say I'm worthy and caring and didn't put myself first
Ryan
That's a great mindset to have, I think having something like a giving heart never fades with time. I really respect people who want desire to valued for their creativity, kindness and love over just looks and material stuff. It's something that can never fade with time, that type of beauty will never fade..I'm not usually this deep but you are really mature for your age.



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22 Mar 2013, 11:41 am

Wolfheart wrote:
Lilya wrote:
MXH wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
Lilya wrote:
Take responsibility, change your manners and STOP presenting yourself as some sort of a hero or victim of your stories.
This^^^

How would you feel if she pulled this kind of thing with you?


I think I do have a fair point though, if I'm going to put a fair amount of effort into personal fitness, I accept and expect the same. I'm not imposing my standards upon any but it's how I feel personally, I am very clear about those standards. Everyone has requirements and standards, there's no point in pretending that we don't in an attempt to make ourselves look deeper.


Then stop trying to get people to mold to your standards.


Exactly.

It's already been pointed out in this thread by others and by herself that having different passions won't make hers any less important. Also, it is very cruel and thoughtless of you to have showed interest towards her and lulled her into believing that you are genuinely attracted to and caring about her, just to shoot her down at this point by pointing to her out that she is not fit/pretty enough. Not only that, you have revealed to her that you have had flirty conversations behind her back AND you tell her that she should be much more like this girl that you cheated on her with.


I'm very aware that I could have worded things better or at least behaved better but it was a situation that was waiting to happen. Sometimes I can be the kindest, sensitive, artistic type of guy and other times I just change into something else.

Like this conversation I'm having, sometimes I can be a very deep and loving person but I am very temperamental and I don't know why...I become a hurtful person.

Random Girl
That I'm a vegetarian and that in July in going out to Belarus to volunteer at a summer camp for kids who were left disabled following the chernobyl nuclear disaster for a couple of weeks, to make sure they have an amazing and fun time
Ryan
A vegetarian? Wow, that must be a rather humbling experience that makes you feel grateful for what you have. Sometimes when I see poor kids suffering on the news, I think how lucky we are to live in such a beautiful environment and realize it doesn't take much to offer a helping hand...I wish I could do something like that.
Random Girl
Anyone can do something like it :) recently I started to feel very unworthy and realised that I wanted to get back into charity work again as I've done a lot in the past
Ryan
I have always looked into it but I realize we can get so mixed up in vain pursuits that we forget about helping others, maybe it's something I should do. What made you feel unworthy? morally unworthy?
Random Girl
Just different factors in my life, I realised there is so much more than beauty and material stuff and when I'm old and about to die I want to look back and say I'm worthy and caring and didn't put myself first
Ryan
That's a great mindset to have, I think having something like a giving heart never fades with time. I really respect people who want desire to valued for their creativity, kindness and love over just looks and material stuff. It's something that can never fade with time, that type of beauty will never fade..I'm not usually this deep but you are really mature for your age.


Wolf,

I already made a very clear point about trying to present yourself as a hero or a victim in situations it's far from appropriate. Please don't make me repeat that.


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22 Mar 2013, 11:50 am

I'm not saying I'm a victim or a hero, I'm saying that sometimes I can be very loving and other times I'm not..however it doesn't help that NT women can be extremely dynamic and emotional and I seem to attract the ones that are emotionally high maintenance as well..



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22 Mar 2013, 11:57 am

Wolfheart wrote:
MXH wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
Lilya wrote:
Take responsibility, change your manners and STOP presenting yourself as some sort of a hero or victim of your stories.
This^^^

How would you feel if she pulled this kind of thing with you?


I think I do have a fair point though, if I'm going to put a fair amount of effort into personal fitness, I accept and expect the same. I'm not imposing my standards upon any but it's how I feel personally, I am very clear about those standards. Everyone has requirements and standards, there's no point in pretending that we don't in an attempt to make ourselves look deeper.


Then stop trying to get people to mold to your standards.


But we have to mould to standards of others, we have to mould for job interviews, for dates..If anything, people do more moulding but I do agree that moulding should come from within, from passion and not from pressure.


No, you choose to mold to get that job, you choose to mold to for others standards. But you can't expect them to do the same for you, because its you choosing to fit in.



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22 Mar 2013, 11:58 am

Wolfheart wrote:
I'm not saying I'm a victim or a hero, I'm saying that sometimes I can be very loving and other times I'm not..however it doesn't help that NT women can be extremely dynamic and emotional and I seem to attract the ones that are emotionally high maintenance as well..


This is a case where you by no means can blame the girl or find excuses for your behaviour. Any person, woman or not, would have been upset and appalled by your behaviour.

If you recognize a prominent flaw in your manners of handling certain things, you should work on getting them solved and fixed. NOT come to a forum and whine about neurotypical women being overly emotional for getting offended by you.


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22 Mar 2013, 12:01 pm

Wolfheart wrote:
I'm not saying I'm a victim or a hero, I'm saying that sometimes I can be very loving and other times I'm not..however it doesn't help that NT women can be extremely dynamic and emotional and I seem to attract the ones that are emotionally high maintenance as well..

This thread had nothing to do with nt or as, especially since many as women are here saying how wrong what you did was. But you still try and justify it. It wasn't even just a tiny mistake, this was a colossal f**kup. And then followed by the way you post it does come off (and has in the past) as thet you're always in the right. being a hero or victim no matter the circumstance. this one is just big enough that you cant be either in any light



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22 Mar 2013, 12:10 pm

Wolfheart wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
Lilya wrote:
Take responsibility, change your manners and STOP presenting yourself as some sort of a hero or victim of your stories.
This^^^

How would you feel if she pulled this kind of thing with you?


I think I do have a fair point though, if I'm going to put a fair amount of effort into personal fitness, I accept and expect the same. I'm not imposing my standards upon any but it's how I feel personally, I am very clear about those standards. Everyone has requirements and standards, there's no point in pretending that we don't in an attempt to make ourselves look deeper.

There's a big difference between having standards and being smug, sanctimonious and pretentious about it........or in your case, downright mean.

That's the way I feel about vegans I have nothing against them and even sorta admire thier conviction but as soon as they start being judgemental about my choice to eat meat they earn my disdain.



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22 Mar 2013, 12:20 pm

MXH wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
MXH wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
Lilya wrote:
Take responsibility, change your manners and STOP presenting yourself as some sort of a hero or victim of your stories.
This^^^

How would you feel if she pulled this kind of thing with you?


I think I do have a fair point though, if I'm going to put a fair amount of effort into personal fitness, I accept and expect the same. I'm not imposing my standards upon any but it's how I feel personally, I am very clear about those standards. Everyone has requirements and standards, there's no point in pretending that we don't in an attempt to make ourselves look deeper.


Then stop trying to get people to mold to your standards.


But we have to mould to standards of others, we have to mould for job interviews, for dates..If anything, people do more moulding but I do agree that moulding should come from within, from passion and not from pressure.


No, you choose to mold to get that job, you choose to mold to for others standards. But you can't expect them to do the same for you, because its you choosing to fit in.


Well if that's the case, both people should come to a compromise.