I "dumped" my aspie but I want him back!

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22 Apr 2013, 3:51 pm

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To be fair to her, it does sound like he wasn't being very cooperative. It sounded to me like the ultimatum was just saying that he has to find time to fit her in his life, or they could not have a relationship. I would not necessarily respond in a negative way to that.


Thank you! Finally someone who understood me!

But in the end ( looking at this clearly) he did not seem to be running away from the " ultimatum" as he obviously came online to talk it out and he obviously asked me a question to start it off. It was me that got it wrong.

His birthday is approaching and I was thinking about sending him a book ( about his favourite subject) to milden the wounds until we see each other again?



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22 Apr 2013, 4:21 pm

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Ultimatums are stupid and foolish no matter the predisposition of either partner to aspergers.

Silly you...



Okay, Okay i get it ! I have made a mistake ! :( now, do you all want to punish me for it?

I'd rather have some tips ( if there are any) on how to fix this? is it even 'fixable' ??

BTW My MBTI type is ENTJ :P so that explains my impulsiveness and the need to set rules :P :P


Quit making excuses for your actions. Nobody's punishing you - merely pointing out the rotten thing you did.

Wanna' fix it? To him: Acknowledge it was wrong, apologize, and don't repeat it.


Now, just to be fair, what was this ultimatum you gave him? It might actually be totally legit, like "if you don't stop [doing x very harmful/hurtful/hateful thing] this relationship can't continue."
I'm hoping this wasn't as shallow as improper toothpaste squeezing or leaving the toilet seat up. ;)



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22 Apr 2013, 4:22 pm

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22 Apr 2013, 4:28 pm

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what was this ultimatum you gave him?


What if the ultimatum was about making death lists of WP users?

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22 Apr 2013, 4:36 pm

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Are you a borderline? lol. You sure sound like one. I bet he's super confused by your behavior. :)


well, that would make two of us. I am super confused by his behaviour too :P

for 4 months I have been the ' coolest' and easiest person he has ever met ( he has said so himself). I endured all his disappearances and all his antics and NEVER complained ( I know there is people who keep up with this for years but mind you I did not know nor assume he had aspergers and I still never complained). However, we came to a point where I expected to take ' the next' step with him and it seems like he did not do it. He did not behave like a platonic friends when we spoke, he spoke like a boyfriend YET we would communicate less than platonic friends at times and this confused me and brought me to this ! !

Sorry if I sound crazy :P :P


Dumping someone and then changing one's mind the same day sounds crazy, like an emotional dysregulation issue.

That said, I think people with your type of impulsive behavior tend to be more empathetic and understanding, so maybe you are good for him. Why don't you just communicate to him clearly that you didn't mean to dump him? Keep it simple. Our brains are not as sophisticated as yours.



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22 Apr 2013, 4:36 pm

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What if the ultimatum was about making death lists of WP users?


Then I know a few WP users making sure my name is at the top.
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22 Apr 2013, 4:50 pm

Ok, not attacking you or anything, simply answering your question. I doubt it is fixable. Given those parameters, a person who demands to talk, then refuses to listen to my side because I ask what they saw as a "stupid question", that marks them as selfish and egocentric. This clearly marks them as someone I do not want to talk to/deal with/ be around. If their opinions are are that are valid, I am done with them. Sorry if its not what you want to hear, but aspies tend to be blunt and truthful...



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22 Apr 2013, 5:30 pm

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Are you a borderline? lol. You sure sound like one. I bet he's super confused by your behavior. :)


well, that would make two of us. I am super confused by his behaviour too :P

for 4 months I have been the ' coolest' and easiest person he has ever met ( he has said so himself). I endured all his disappearances and all his antics and NEVER complained ( I know there is people who keep up with this for years but mind you I did not know nor assume he had aspergers and I still never complained). However, we came to a point where I expected to take ' the next' step with him and it seems like he did not do it. He did not behave like a platonic friends when we spoke, he spoke like a boyfriend YET we would communicate less than platonic friends at times and this confused me and brought me to this ! !

Sorry if I sound crazy :P :P


Dumping someone and then changing one's mind the same day sounds crazy, like an emotional dysregulation issue.

That said, I think people with your type of impulsive behavior tend to be more empathetic and understanding, so maybe you are good for him. Why don't you just communicate to him clearly that you didn't mean to dump him? Keep it simple. Our brains are not as sophisticated as yours.



I dumped him two weeks ago. And I did not dump him because I wanted to but because he hurt me with his question and left me with no other options ( or so I thought in that blink of a moment).



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22 Apr 2013, 5:33 pm

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theNTgirl wrote:
Moridin8 wrote:
Ultimatums are stupid and foolish no matter the predisposition of either partner to aspergers.

Silly you...



Okay, Okay i get it ! I have made a mistake ! :( now, do you all want to punish me for it?

I'd rather have some tips ( if there are any) on how to fix this? is it even 'fixable' ??

BTW My MBTI type is ENTJ :P so that explains my impulsiveness and the need to set rules :P :P


Quit making excuses for your actions. Nobody's punishing you - merely pointing out the rotten thing you did.

Wanna' fix it? To him: Acknowledge it was wrong, apologize, and don't repeat it.


Now, just to be fair, what was this ultimatum you gave him? It might actually be totally legit, like "if you don't stop [doing x very harmful/hurtful/hateful thing] this relationship can't continue."
I'm hoping this wasn't as shallow as improper toothpaste squeezing or leaving the toilet seat up. ;)


Actually my ultimatum involved just that : I said " If we do not talk this out and find a compromise that will suit us both, I will have to leave you as I cannot continue like this anymore"

and my ultimatum was backed up by an honest letter about my feelings and the first thing he does when he came online was : trina, what I dont understand is the following: did we, in your opinion, cross the friendship status ?

to me, it seemed as if he was ' taking the piss' and after everything that happened including the letter I wrote, it seemed to me as if such a question was not necessary. Now, after talking to a few people on here I understood that he needed that validation....



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22 Apr 2013, 5:43 pm

Stop issuing ultimatums to him - if he's as stubborn as the average aspie they'll never work
as he'll pride himself on not backing down

Just send a neutral message about something he's interested in eg a link to
an interesting website article (ie that he'll find interesting)

if he's still keen on you he'll respond as you'll be holding out an olive branch

if he doesn't respond leave him alone for a while

you can't force people to do anything and if a person is used to and likes their own company,
threatening to withdraw from them won't have any leverage as they're likely to just say
'bye then'



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22 Apr 2013, 5:46 pm

theNTgirl wrote:
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theNTgirl wrote:
... I set an ultimatum for him ...

theNTgirl wrote:
... My 'ultimatum' consisted of a compromise ...

So which was it: an ultimatum or a compromise?

If there was an "... or else" clause attached to it, then it was an ultimatum. Otherwise, a compromise is reached by negotiation, which involves a two-way dialog, and not a one-sided "discussion" (i.e., "We need to talk...").

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It was an ultimatum to have a two-day dialogue about our situation OR I would leave. I had written him a previous letter ( which was not direct enough I must admit ) that he read but would not mention anymore at all. So this time, I said " this and this and this is what happened this is how i feel but if we want this to work we need to talk it out. If we dont talk it out I must go "

My only fault in this ( which I admit) is that I got mad at his question and did not let him continue and tell me what he wanted to say :) that is all...and all my friends ( when they read the way he worded his question about our status) told me how much of a moron I have been for taking that as an insult as they are all convinced that he just wanted reassurance.


Don't take this the wrong way, but the way I see it, that wasn't your only fault. The whole ultimatum thing was not cool. I'd have disappeared as well.



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22 Apr 2013, 6:38 pm

Two questions.

1. What does "taking the piss" mean?
2. What does "cross the friendship status" imply?



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22 Apr 2013, 8:16 pm

redrobin62 wrote:
Two questions.

1. What does "taking the piss" mean?
2. What does "cross the friendship status" imply?

"Taking the piss" is a British term meaning to take liberties at the expense of others, or to be unreasonable.

To "cross the friendship status" is to presume more from a relationship than what the other party intends; such as when the other party has put you in the "Friend Zone" and you want more affection and physical intimacy. Then next step in such a situation is for you to either back down or risk being "Creepzoned".



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22 Apr 2013, 8:49 pm

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22 Apr 2013, 9:10 pm

I can relate to the whole "dead to me" metaphor. It's really painful to not be good enough for someone you like, it's even more painful to run into them and get reminded all over again. It's a lot easier when you can avoid the person, fill the void, and adapt to a new sense of normalcy.

From what I've read about your situation, his normal behaviour was a strain on you and you were hoping to relieve the strain by having him change. Do you think that understanding his condition will cause his behavior to annoy you less? If things go the way you plan, he'll come back to you and try to change. If he can't change the way you want him to, how much will you be willing to tolerate?


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