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I do this too, sometimes.

I agree. In my opinion, aspergers are quite good at picking subtles cues. The problem for aspies is not picking the clues, it's interpreting them. For NTs, knowing what they mean is something instinctive. An asperger must rationalize, and can be wrong. But once you get something, you see it everywhere, since there's no filter for incoming information and no matter where you are, you perceive all that happens around.

I agree. In my opinion, aspergers are quite good at picking subtles cues. The problem for aspies is not picking the clues, it's interpreting them. For NTs, knowing what they mean is something instinctive. An asperger must rationalize, and can be wrong. But once you get something, you see it everywhere, since there's no filter for incoming information and no matter where you are, you perceive all that happens around.

This is really interesting, and I think that you're right.

I think we have a different processing system, and I know for me, I cannot block out all that is happening in a room/space, and whilst I have experienced not always knowing what is going on, I have also experienced picking up on very subtle things going on with people, even from a long way off; oftentimes more than one person at the same time.

But I accept that our instincts can be spot on, but also picked up and then interpreted all wrong. I am trying to work on this one.

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In my experience and observation, most people do not see themselves the same way other people see them. What's more, how others see that person can vary, person to person.

I think it is a rare person (no better, no worse, just rare) who sees themselves the way others see them.

So yeah it's possible to think of oneself as amazing and others see you as average, or vice versa.

I never said I thought that I was amazing. It's the opposite, I struggle with feeling worthless etc., and so was surprised to imagine someone could really see something quite different. They have before, but I am still surprised by it, and doubtful etc.

Just in case you had thought that was what I meant. I didn't.

But yes, that's a good point. I suppose we can become accustomed to seeing ourselves a certain way, and think only in that way, not imagining other visions to be possible.

Thank you anyway.

Oh no just to be clear. I didn't mean you - I meant anyone.

You in the sense of the general "you."

I often say "one" instead of "you" but at times that can sound pretentious. So my choices were confusing or pretentious.

Anyway no my only point was most people don't see themselves the same way outsiders do.

That's fine. Thank you

Your last sentence; this is really quite a radical concept in some ways. Might be quite interesting to adopt as a general philosophy, just a little, little bit.
Because I'm quite sure, logically speaking, that you're absolutely right.

I think everyone has to wrestle with feeling useless or unworthy time to time. I think there's always some merit in every individual, and they add value in many different ways. The qualities that are appreciated vary from each individual, which circles back to the subjective nature of things. You may not see your worth because you're measuring yourself from a different, but equally subjective standard.

Anyway, this is a very intersting question:

I sometimes wonder how it seeing through the eyes of other people. For me, for example, there's not filter when it comes to incoming info, specially auditory. I perceive every sound around (yesterday I had to leave a meeting because it was neighbourhood festivity and it was too noisy for me), but I perceive most of the visual stuff in my own way too. When I look, I clearly perceive three layers of informations: a layer full of geometrical forms, another layer of colours, and another layer of textures (that I can almost actually feel).

When I look at somebody I see basically the geometrical shape of the whole body. I have a mild face blindness, so the face is not a point of special attention. I find it very attractive the hair texture layer and the clothes texture layer (I don't understand fashion, but some clothe textures as linen are just beautiful).

I usually judge the people through their voice, the way they talk. For me, the personality of people are concentred in their voice, I'm mainly auditory.

Besides, when I have sex I love looking the partner skin closely because then I can perceive the texture layer clearly, and this is so incredibly amazing! It's like opening a new source of information about this person.

For me this is normal. I though for years that everybody was the same. Now I doubt it.

I really would like to experience how it looking through NT eyes...

I recognize people by their hair

I find it particularly interesting how someone can see the same person and think they're totally beuatiful, and five (for example) other people can just think they are pretty or okay.

People do truly have their own preferences, their own unique wants and ideals.

It is fascinating.

This is really interesting. I relate to some of it in different ways.

Yes a good point.

I suppose also, in a world of seven billion, it's hard not to question your worth in the scheme of things; if you are good enough, or doing enough, etc.

I cut my hair off a couple of years ago, so no way you could recognize me

I could by your lack of hair then

Touché

I recognize people mainly by their voice. I can recognize them visually, of course, but I'm never sure if I'm right until I hear them (or until they recognize me too). (And many times I make mistakes. I was meeting a friend I know quite well some days ago and who arrived late, and I did recognize this person three times. Though the thirth time I was right, finally!! ! )